flgreen Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 EDIT: Here is a link to a video interview with Bill Parcells. http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=36819453&topic_id=&tcid=vpp_copy_36819453&v=3 Bill Parcells reveals details of split with Bill Belichick in new memoir 'Parcells': SI excerpt The details of Belichick's betrayal of his mentor appears this week in a Sports Illustrated excerpt of Parcell's book, co-written with former Daily News writer Nunyo Demasio. BY NATHANIEL VINTON , TERI THOMPSON NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Wednesday, October 15, 2014, 12:18 PM A A A JOHN T. GREILICK/AP Bill Belichick (c.) is Bill Parcell's hand-picked successor to take over the Jets. Big Bill knows where Little Bill's bodies are buried. Legendary coach Bill Parcells calls it like he sees it in a new memoir, at least when it comes to his protégé Bill Belichick's wiggling out of a New York Jets contract 14 years ago in order to traipse up I-95 and build his Patriot dynasty. "He made a deal and then tried to get out of it," Parcells recalls of his former defensive coordinator. "A deal's a deal. You want out? You're going to pay. Simple." Parcells dishes on the palace intrigue that swirled around two of the NFL's most revered coaches in "Parcells," due out Oct. 28. The details of Belichick's betrayal of his mentor appears this week in a Sports Illustrated excerpt of Parcell's book, co-written with former Daily News writer Nunyo Demasio. VIEW GALLERYParcells' Hall-of-Fame career Belichick's loyalists within the Jets front office are called the "Cleveland Mafia." Fans familiar with his famous public reticence may feel disoriented reading about Belichick's nervous chattering in the hours and minutes leading up to his famous farewell. “I have decided to resign as the HC of the NYJ,” Belichick’s handwritten, three-sentence resignation letter said. It was thrust into a “stunned and angry” Jets’ president Steve Gutman’s hands, minutes before Belichick gave a 25-minute statement to the media, his voice occasionally cracking and sweat beading his forehead. In the legal aftermath of the contractual break, Jets offensive coordinator Charlie Weis lobbied hard for Belichick’s job, the book says. “I can do this job, I’m your guy,” Weis told Parcells. However, Weis then testified on Belichick’s behalf during the grievance hearing over whether Belichick could be interviewed for other jobs, basically betraying Parcells, who would ban Weis from the premises the day after the testimony. JOHN ROCA/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Bill Belichick announces his resignation as Jets HC which paves the way for Bill Parcell's former defensive coordinator to build the Patriots into a dynasty. “Charlie, you need to get your s--- and leave the building,” Parcells told Weis, who would eventually end up with Belichick in New England. According to the book, Parcells strikes a conciliatory tone about the incident with Weis. "I've told many coaches that friendship and loyalty is going to be more important than ambition. Some guys don't realize that until after they're done,” Parcells says in the book. “I don't bear animosity toward Charlie. I can say that with a straight face because I know what he is. His actions back then don't bother me anymore." CATAFFO, LINDABill Parcells (c.) would eventually negotiate with New England to allow Bill Belichick to take over the Patriots. To be fair, it is noted that amid January's "surreal switcheroo," Belichick was arguably exercising common sense. The Jets were in ownership limbo less than a year after the death of longtime owner Leon Hess, and were weighing competing bids from Cablevision founder Charles Dolan and Johnson and Johnson heir Woody Johnson. Hess, whose gas station business had given the Jets their colors, had negotiated Belichick's contract to ensure Belichick would take the throne from Parcells. "Belichick was apparently drawn to the possibility of being a GM or a head coach under a familiar owner like Robert Kraft, as opposed to working for a neophyte owner like Johnson or Dolan with Parcells hovering in an unclear position of authority," the book notes. But there's nothing unclear about it now that Parcells has a pen in his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 **** Bill Belicheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 wow, Charlie Weis is a scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Old school a deal is a deal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Big Bill was gonna keep meddling and taking credit from Lil' Bill. I don't blame the little sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Big Bill was gonna keep meddling and taking credit from Lil' Bill. I don't blame the little sh*t. Both Bills chatted with Woody Johnson for five minutes and immediately started making other plans. I don't blame either sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Old school a deal is a deal..... Really? I bet Parcell's book doesn't cover the part where he a was under contract to the Patriots while fielding offers from the Jets front office during the Patriots Super Bowl weekend? I bet he doesn't mention the tampering charges against the Jets, the phone records of the calls to and from the Jets headquarters on his Patriot issued phone? I bet he doesn't mention the NFL commissioner stepping in and negotiating a boat load of draft picks to the Patriots so they would release his contract rights and drop the tampering charges against the Jets? That hypocrite can GFH, and the Jets got what they deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Really? I bet Parcell's book doesn't cover the part where he a was under contract to the Patriots while fielding offers from the Jets front office during the Patriots Super Bowl weekend? I bet he doesn't mention the tampering charges against the Jets, the phone records of the calls to and from the Jets headquarters on his Patriot issued phone? I bet he doesn't mention the NFL commissioner stepping in and negotiating a boat load of draft picks to the Patriots so they would release his contract rights and drop the tampering charges against the Jets? That hypocrite can GFH, and the Jets got what they deserved. Thanks for your unbiased upon. We appreciate the history lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks for your unbiased upon. We appreciate the history lesson. Facts aren't opinions, and those are the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Facts aren't opinions, and those are the facts. So we should forget about the spygate facts and get our panties in a wad over some telephone calls that Parcells made from his hotel room after practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So we should forget about the spygate facts and get our panties in a wad over some telephone calls that Parcells made from his hotel room after practice? The NFL was very concerned with the Jets tampering of another teams coach, but more over it shows what hypocrite and egomaniacal douche Bill Parcell's is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Everyone pulled a douche move and I can't blame any of them. Knowing what we know now, who the **** would want to work for Woody Johnson if you have other options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hess, whose gas station business had given the Jets their colors, had negotiated Belichick's contract to ensure Belichick would take the throne from Parcells. Ummmm.... no. The Jets got their colors because Sonny Werblin (who named them the Jets) was born on St. Patrick's Day. The author needs to do better research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The NFL was very concerned with the Jets tampering of another teams coach, but more over it shows what hypocrite and egomaniacal douche Bill Parcell's is. Right, but not so concerned with stealing Super Bowls...those are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Lil Bill is a Big D**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The NFL was very concerned with the Jets tampering of another teams coach, but more over it shows what hypocrite and egomaniacal douche Bill Parcell's is. As opposed to when the Pats went after Lil' Bill? They are both hypocrites and egomaniacal douches. Everyone pulled a douche move and I can't blame any of them. Knowing what we know now, who the **** would want to work for Woody Johnson if you have other options? I honestly believe this is the beginning of the end. Woody should have been strong and given Parcells and ultimatum. Offer him a specified role and he either takes it or is out. Instead, he kept him on and let Parcells act as "advisor" which meant nobody would feel autonomous. They all had that fat under the belt belly shadow cast over them. Ummmm.... no. The Jets got their colors because Sonny Werblin (who named them the Jets) was born on St. Patrick's Day. The author needs to do better research. I think they are all urban legends. Hess was on the syndicate that bought in with Werblin. I had always heard that Werblin changed them to the color of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Right, but not so concerned with stealing Super Bowls...those are facts. :indifferent0023: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 As opposed to when the Pats went after Lil' Bill? They are both hypocrites and egomaniacal douches. I honestly believe this is the beginning of the end. Woody should have been strong and given Parcells and ultimatum. Offer him a specified role and he either takes it or is out. Instead, he kept him on and let Parcells act as "advisor" which meant nobody would feel autonomous. They all had that fat under the belt belly shadow cast over them. I think they are all urban legends. Hess was on the syndicate that bought in with Werblin. I had always heard that Werblin changed them to the color of money. It's man's birthday - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Werblin - March 17, 1910. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 :indifferent0023: Great job of proving my point...you're butthurt over the facts of a phone call, but facts that prove long-term cheating are to be ignored. So shocking to see that coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 :indifferent0023: Answer the ******* question troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Big Bill was gonna keep meddling and taking credit from Lil' Bill. I don't blame the little sh*t. Like Idzik is doing with Rex, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Really? I bet Parcell's book doesn't cover the part where he a was under contract to the Patriots while fielding offers from the Jets front office during the Patriots Super Bowl weekend? I bet he doesn't mention the tampering charges against the Jets, the phone records of the calls to and from the Jets headquarters on his Patriot issued phone? I bet he doesn't mention the NFL commissioner stepping in and negotiating a boat load of draft picks to the Patriots so they would release his contract rights and drop the tampering charges against the Jets? That hypocrite can GFH, and the Jets got what they deserved. You don't think this happens all the time? Are you that naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The NFL was very concerned with the Jets tampering of another teams coach, but more over it shows what hypocrite and egomaniacal douche Bill Parcell's is. I can't disagree with this, but isn't Belichick the EXACT SAME hypocrite and egomanical douche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I can't disagree with this, but isn't Belichick the EXACT SAME hypocrite and egomanical douche? Sure he is, never said he wasn't, I would guess that most great coaches aren't people you would want to have a beer with. Some Jets fans however like to re-write history and think there franchise is squeaky clean, when it was the Jets that started the border war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You don't think this happens all the time? Are you that naive? You mean like stealing other teams signals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 It's man's birthday - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Werblin - March 17, 1910. Not sure how that is any more likely than "Sonny as in Money" would want them to be the color of money. Hess was a full partner, but supposedly they were not happy with Werblin spearheading everything, so the Hess colors are a less likely story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Facts aren't opinions, and those are the facts. I am more concerned that I spelled opinion like this --> upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Really? I bet Parcell's book doesn't cover the part where he a was under contract to the Patriots while fielding offers from the Jets front office during the Patriots Super Bowl weekend? I bet he doesn't mention the tampering charges against the Jets, the phone records of the calls to and from the Jets headquarters on his Patriot issued phone? I bet he doesn't mention the NFL commissioner stepping in and negotiating a boat load of draft picks to the Patriots so they would release his contract rights and drop the tampering charges against the Jets? That hypocrite can GFH, and the Jets got what they deserved. chapter 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 wow, Charlie Weis is a scumbag Yep, I was so glad to see him thrive at ND. He got what he deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 so where are the details ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Facts aren't opinions, and those are the facts. Facts aren't opinions, and opinions are farts when they come out of your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The NY Jets: Left at the altar by the greatest coach in modern NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The NY Jets: Left at the altar by the greatest coach in modern NFL history. Lombardi was going to marry the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 As opposed to when the Pats went after Lil' Bill? They are both hypocrites and egomaniacal douches. I honestly believe this is the beginning of the end. Woody should have been strong and given Parcells and ultimatum. Offer him a specified role and he either takes it or is out. Instead, he kept him on and let Parcells act as "advisor" which meant nobody would feel autonomous. They all had that fat under the belt belly shadow cast over them. Yeah, because if there was one thing that Belichick proved in Cleveland, it's that he was one hell of a franchise-builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Both Bills chatted with Woody Johnson for five minutes and immediately started making other plans. I don't blame either sh*t. Bingo. And so will any potential new head coach. We are doomed as long as Woody owns the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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