Arsis Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Yup, and if this is only a 1 year rental (as some are suggesting), to make such a trade in a 1-6 season is just a bad move. No way is this a 1 year rental. That would just be daft. SARS EYE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (2 yrs) Holmes signed a monster contract prior to the season you and T0m are referring to. Just as Bevell couldn't have expedited a trade any sooner, Rex couldn't take away Holmes' guaranteed money to make it more amenable to cutting him. I'm not trying to defend Rex by any means, I just don't see how the scenario is that significantly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Yup, and if this is only a 1 year rental (as some are suggesting), to make such a trade in a 1-6 season is just a bad move. if this is a half-year rental then idzik should be fired. why on earth does a 1-6 team need a half year rental? what a waste of a draft pick if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 You proved my point. Rex will never hold a contributor accountable, Seattle did. Stop contributing (Harlem Saunders) and only then will Rex do it. Under Rex, some guys are untouchable that is definition of lack of accountability How are they holding him accountable? He punched Tate in the face, presumably when he was still rehabbing and they reward him by letting him play in the playoffs the first chance he's eligible to return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 We just spent 7 million of our 20 million available on this guy? And in a lost season? Woody could've given each PSL subscriber a check for $350 instead, would've been a better gesture. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Golden Tate is a huge a$$hole, fwiw Sounds like he's worth between a 2nd and 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 How are they holding him accountable? He punched Tate in the face, presumably when he was still rehabbing and they reward him by letting him play in the playoffs the first chance he's eligible to return? Well anyone who played for ND deserves a punch in the face. If we make a Super Bowl Rex has my permission to suspend accountability and try to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Why? I don't even... another headscratching move by Idzik. Seriously? You out of all the people? Idzik traded for Harvin when his stock was down giving up what might not even be a 3rd rounder that'll be a bust with this jets scouting department anyways. Harvin at least won't be released during preseason like most of the Jets draft choices this yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 We just spent 7 million of our 20 million available on this guy? And in a lost season? Woody could've given each PSL subscriber a check for $350 instead, would've been a better gesture. SAR I Why would he give money to a bunch of clowns who have shown such poor financial sense? SARS EYE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Holmes signed a monster contract prior to the season you and T0m are referring to. Just as Bevell couldn't have expedited a trade any sooner, Rex couldn't take away Holmes' guaranteed money to make it more amenable to cutting him. I'm not trying to defend Rex by any means, I just don't see how the scenario is that significantly different. So you admit bevel traded him as soon as he could. #accountability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I have to commend Idzik on this move. Low risk/high reward rental. The Jets can figure out if he fits in. Also helps evaluate Geno and gives them some speed on offense that Chris Johnson was supposed to but hasn't. If Harvin wants to be a big part of an offense he has come to the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 How are they holding him accountable? He punched Tate in the face, presumably when he was still rehabbing and they reward him by letting him play in the playoffs the first chance he's eligible to return? WHATEVER, TRAPPER JOHN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 So had a few hours to ruminate on this, and......I still don't get it. Troubled Player. Injury History. Bad in the Locker Room. Prima Donna. WR who is more a Kick Returner Expensive Middle of Lost Season at 1-6 Potentially a 2nd Round Pick Loss. What am I missing here? This seems like a pants-on-head bad move. So what am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Harvin just got a season ending migraine when he got the news he has to play for us. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Seahawks trade Percy Harvin to Jets for 2015 draft pick Vinnie Iyer @vinnieiyer Email RSS October 17, 2014 7:10pm EDT facebookPercy Harvin will next be running jet sweeps for the Jets.The Seahawks have traded the dynamic, versatile wide receiver to New York for a conditional pick in the 2015 NFL Draft. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer was first to report the news Friday. The Harvin deal will become official once he passes a physical. Percy Harvin (Getty Images) The Jets lost to the Patriots 27-25 on Thursday night. The Seahawks play at the Rams on Sunday. Harvin won't be playing for either team in Week 7. While the Seahawks feel as though they can still have an explosive offense without Harvin, the Jets are taking a chance that he can join fellow newcomer wide receiver Eric Decker in giving struggling second-year quarterback Geno Smith a lot more help. Last offseason, the Seahawks sent first- and seventh-round draft picks in 2013 plus a third-rounder in 2014 to the Vikings to acquire him. They obviously are not getting close to the same in return from the Jets. According to ESPN's John Clayton, the '15 pick will be somewhere between a second- and a fourth-rounder. Harvin did some good things for Seattle when he was healthy during his season and a half with the team, but his contributions weren't quite enough this season; he produced just 22 receptions for 133 yards and no touchdowns. He also carried 11 times for 92 yards and a TD. His best game during his brief time in a Seahawks uniform came in Super Bowl XLVIII. He rushed twice for 45 yards, had a 5-yard reception and scored on an 87-yard kickoff return to begin the second half and spark Seattle to a 43-8 rout over the Broncos. Harvin, 26, underwent offseason hip surgery last year and played in only one regular-season game in his first season with the Seahawks. He currently is battling a thigh injury and was listed as questionable for the Seahawks' game at St. Louis this weekend. Given he's been traded twice in two years, there are whispers that coach Pete Carroll and the team have been di appointed with the return on his effort, prompting the trade. The Jets, at 1-6 and looking for something positive under Rex Ryan, should welcome what Harvin can do to jump-start their improving but still limited offense. The Associated Press contributed to this report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 So had a few hours to ruminate on this, and......I still don't get it. Troubled Player. Injury History. Bad in the Locker Room. Prima Donna. WR who is more a Kick Returner Expensive Middle of Lost Season at 1-6 Potentially a 2nd Round Pick Loss. What am I missing here? This seems like a pants-on-head bad move. So what am I missing? It's a rental. He has tremendous talent. But I get what you are saying. It's not even clear that this helps at all this year. Also, how do you bring in a coach from Seattle now? They couldn't handle him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 So had a few hours to ruminate on this, and......I still don't get it. Troubled Player. Injury History. Bad in the Locker Room. Prima Donna. WR who is more a Kick Returner Expensive Middle of Lost Season at 1-6 Potentially a 2nd Round Pick Loss. What am I missing here? This seems like a pants-on-head bad move. So what am I missing? It's a conditional 4th with a chance it moves up to a 2. We don't know what would have to happen for it to become a 2. If it's for a 4th rounder it's not that bad especially with how we draft lol for example last years 4th rounder Jalen Saunders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 just need a QB now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It's a rental. ...and we're 1-6. You see the problem with that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein Follow Here are two tweets I just got from NFL personnel guys: “Literally heard minutes ago what you tweeted. Crazy. Jets didn’t do their homework" 6:47 PM - 17 Oct 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsDogs Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Stoicsentry pacing through his living room, his hands stroking what's left of his hair, trying to understand why he's so angry and so joyful all at once, pondering how the heart can feels so many things, so ardently, simultaneously. QOTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein Follow Here are two tweets I just got from NFL personnel guys: “Literally heard minutes ago what you tweeted. Crazy. Jets didn’t do their homework" 6:47 PM - 17 Oct 2014 Thanks Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein Follow Also got this text minutes ago: “Seattle just suckered the Jets. That GM is clueless”. Yikes. 6:47 PM - 17 Oct 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein Follow Also got this text minutes ago: “Seattle just suckered the Jets. That GM is clueless”. Yikes. 6:47 PM - 17 Oct 2014 Wow. Halfway through year 2 and already personnel guys can't stand him, agents can't stand him, coaches can't stand him. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 "Radio host on Sports Talk 790 in Houston, freelance writer including Rotoworld & Fantasy Guru, co-owner of TheSidelineView." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 ...and we're 1-6. You see the problem with that, right? Yes and no. I don't see the problem if the coach is Rex or anyone other than a Seattle coach next year. If it is a Seattle coach then it's a big problem. And if the Jets don't make it work and extend him it is really really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Does he have nice feet? He will before its all said and done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Russell Wilson had a Total QBR of 45.3 with Percy Harvin on the field this season, and a QBR of 71.0 with him off the field. 48m TV / Radio Personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Lance Zierlein @LanceZierleinFollow Also got this text minutes ago: “Seattle just suckered the Jets. That GM is clueless”. Yikes. 6:47 PM - 17 Oct 2014 Who the hell is Lance Zierlen ? Houston's version of Mehta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Who's Lance Zuerlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 A lot of fans kill Rex for the Santonio move but Braylon seemed to play well for him and no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Michael Silver @MikeSilver This trade's not a particularly proud moment for either franchise. Seahawks cutting losses. Jets--why'd you wait so long to get a playmaker? 49m Beat Writer / Columnist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 What are the chances Harvin is not on the team next year? great question. 70% his existing contract is ugly but not guaranteed. They'd have to tag him (also ugly) or work out some sort of team friendly thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Who the hell is Lance Zierlen ? Houston's version of Mehta? He's a Sports talk show host for KJR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Who's Lance Zuerlein He sounds like hairdresser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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