Arsis Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Do they expect to run the table? Dafuq is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 All I know is right now the Jets have two WRs that are good for the next 4 years at least. It's a building process and I don't know why we don't see that. Still a lot of football left. If they can rattle off a few wins in a row and be 4-6 there is still a shot. Anything can happen. I'm pretty sure Geno always telling Nelson he did something wrong could be a part of it. The guy never is open. Never seems to make a play. I'm happy with this move going forward. I still want them to draft a big stretch the field wr to compliment Decker and Harvin. Kerley is surely gone next year too. After this right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm all in on the worst case scenario. Harvin is an injury prone, diva of a wide receiver. He also isn't a traditional WR, he requires a ton of coaching attention in terms of play design. BTW, Carroll absolutely loved Harvin. Tried to recruit him at USC, gave up a fair bit to bring him over and made every attempt to get him involved. So if Carroll - of all people - is kicking him to the curb, something must be seriously wrong. My guess; conflict with the coaches, whining about not getting the ball enough, and a general consensus that that designing specific plays for him was undermining the run game. He also had too big a contract, and maybe they finally got a ballpark figure in mind for Russell Wilson's new deal. Either way, the bottom line is that HARVIN IS DAMAGED GOODS. Between him and Chris Johnson, the coaches are gonna have their hands full big time. I'm thinking it was largely financial. Harvin was due $10+ mil next year and was going to be cut regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Not sure why so many folks seem convinced this deal was even on the table weeks ago. In all likelihood this is the first point that Seattle had decided they were willing to move Harvin. Hell, Idzik was probably their first call. Doesn't necessarily make it a good move, but just saying. So...they pulled the same thing we pulled with Cleveland when Mangini was the head man? And here I was feeling good about the move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Idzik is seeing his Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle and raising himself a Percy Harvin. He's a gambler. A gambler that loses far more often than he wins. He wants more and more injury prone players. This idiot just can't get enough of the rush he gets from trying (and typically failing) to out think other GMs. The sooner he's gone, the better. Marry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Seattle -Percy harving was creating tension by always trying to get him touches. was ineffective and they were going to have cap issues. tired of him, but not of talent mid round pick (4) can work out to maybe a 2.-Clayton Schlareth saying theres a red flag cause he keeps getting moved (perfect for NY -__-) Limited gonna be a gadget guy (facepalm) - i see him returning punts and kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This move isn't for this immediate season. Idzik, like him or not, is not an instant gratification GM in the mold of Tannenbaum. He saw high value become available at relatively low investment and took the deal. Its been his M.O. since he got here. Maybe, but it's a tryout. Harvin's existing deal is disgusting and it'll need to be re-worked, assuming Harvin doesn't go full flake mode the rest of this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Often injured, overrated, and won't be utilized properly. He'll fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Isn't his price tag huge, by Idzik standards? Like almost double what Decker cost us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Idzik is seeing his Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle and raising himself a Percy Harvin. He's a gambler. A gambler that loses far more often than he wins. He wants more and more injury prone players. This idiot just can't get enough of the rush he gets from trying (and typically failing) to out think other GMs. The sooner he's gone, the better. I just read a rumor on Twitter that Idzik is about to trade for RGIII. You down??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 It's a 2nd-4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I don't know what to think about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm thinking it was largely financial. Harvin was due $10+ mil next year and was going to be cut regardless. In all seriousness, if they think Richardson and Kearse can do the same job (and for how they're using Harvin, they can) of course they unload them. They have some more major contracts to worry about coming up, namely Wilson I believe. Going forward the contract seemingly won't be an issue for any team, so it was all about finding one that could take it on for this year. Fortunately for them, there was one GM who could peer into the future and knew. One GM brilliant enough to foresee saving all that cap space so Percy Harvin would come save the day. Brilliant, that Idzik. Absolutely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm thinking it was largely financial. Harvin was due $10+ mil next year and was going to be cut regardless. They knew his salary demands beforehand and deemed him to be worthy of that kind of money when they traded for him. They gave up a first round pick for this guy. Why let him go for nothing? This isn't some average player, the guy is recognized as one of the best in the league. I think there is more to it than just the financial aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Maybe, but it's a tryout. Harvin's existing deal is disgusting and it'll need to be re-worked, assuming Harvin doesn't go full flake mode the rest of this season Chance that he flakes: over/under 95%? This is an organization that no one takes seriously right now. They can't even convince Geno Smith and Dimitri Patterson to show up for meetings, let alone someone of Harvin's talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Jets fans enjoy this move stop bitching moaning and complaining we need offensive talent on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 he was questionable this week with a thigh they were sick of his durability. He also has a history of migraines which no team wants to deal with as they are one of medical science's few remaining mysteries. FEW? lol there's lifetimes of work for medical science people to figure out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This just stinks of a panic move to me. Sacrifice the future for success in the present that won't materialize. We now go 6-10 instead of 4-12. Make this move in the beginning of the season and I'd be behind it; at 1-6 it makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 They knew his salary demands beforehand and deemed him to be worthy of that kind of money when they traded for him. They gave up a first round pick for this guy. Why let him go for nothing? This isn't some average player, the guy is recognized as one of the best in the league. I think there is more to it than just the financial aspect. Does Rex's wife have a Percy Harvin tattoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 It's a 2nd-4th You've got to be ******* kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You've got to be ******* kidding me. The way we draft that's a solid move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You've got to be ******* kidding me. Keeping all our draft picks is important now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Seattle -Percy harving was creating tension by always trying to get him touches. was ineffective and they were going to have cap issues. tired of him, but not of talent mid round pick (4) can work out to maybe a 2.-Clayton Schlareth saying theres a red flag cause he keeps getting moved (perfect for NY -__-) Limited gonna be a gadget guy (facepalm) - i see him returning punts and kicks. Simms to Harvin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You've got to be ******* kidding me. yeah, big deal, we miss out on next year's dexter mcdougle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This trade makes ZERO sense. ZERO. I wonder what we gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 @SandoESPN: So now two teams have unloaded Harvin in his physical prime. That is telling. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 yeah, big deal, we miss out on next year's dexter mcdougle. LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This trade makes ZERO sense. ZERO. I wonder what we gave up. Conditional 2nd to 4th. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This just stinks of a panic move to me. Sacrifice the future for success in the present that won't materialize. We now go 6-10 instead of 4-12. Make this move in the beginning of the season and I'd be behind it; at 1-6 it makes no sense to me. Yep. Stink-ass GM flailing for a lifeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 well as a gator fan im happy. def upgrade over sals, nelson, graham, ososuma and whatever other trash we ran out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 It's a 2nd-4th NO F'ING WAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Percy frikken Harvin offensive talent they cant cover Decker and Harvin no way in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 NO F'ING WAY. Yeah. Insane. This move makes Tanny look like a responsible steward of his draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 They knew his salary demands beforehand and deemed him to be worthy of that kind of money when they traded for him. They gave up a first round pick for this guy. Why let him go for nothing? This isn't some average player, the guy is recognized as one of the best in the league. I think there is more to it than just the financial aspect. The timing is weird, but Harvin effectively won them a Super Bowl game by himself. Being he's a UF alum, there's no doubt in my mind that he's a huge a$$hole (cc: JiF), but it's a worthy gamble, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Conditional 2nd to 4th. Seriously. I'd think you'd be happy there was one less pick for Idzik to screw up. **Truthfully, I kind of am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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