Ken Schroy Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The point is that the Rex retention into a new regime, which many fans lobbied for, is the reason we don't have a competent GM. This entire backwards way of running things set this franchise back years, when we could've and should've just cleaned house to begin with. TO THIS DAY, there are still fans lobbying to fire Idzik, WHILE KEEPING REX! It's like bizarro world. And I agree that both should be fired. Ideally, both should've been fired today. So based on your logic, that the Fans can lobby effectively and the owner listens; Woody is getting ready to dump Idzik and Rex right? Because we want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 That was sooooooooooooo entertaining! Best press conference ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Blaming the fans is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So based on your logic, that the Fans can lobby effectively and the owner listens; Woody is getting ready to dump Idzik and Rex right? Because we want it. Woody likes Rex a great deal personally. In the wake of the Tannenbaum firing, there was enough fan and media support for keeping Rex on into a new regime that Woody was able to do so without any significant blowback. I don't know if the inverse holds true due to the amount of personal affection Woody has for Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What? What hit in who's wallet? The PSL's and seats are all sold. Some loss from concessions and parking will have no impact on Woody. Neither, apparently, will the humiliation that we all feel by the pathetic performance of all concerned. I'm just guessing, but showing an empty stadium on ESPN highlights every Sunday might force enough pressure for the GaBillionaires owners to drive action. Maybe that's just wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 That was reassessing being a fan bad. He can't pick players for this team. Wait until he picks a coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wait until he picks a coach!no way he can be allowed to do that, no way. Not after today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wait until he picks a coach! He will have to fire Rex after this year. If he doesn't it then becomes a total reflection on him. By getting rid of Rex he has the luxury of a few more years to show his ineptitude. I say he'll be GM for at least another 2 -3 years before Woody fires his azz. If Rex returns next year its totally Woody's decision and if they bomb, they're both gone after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If Woody Johnson doesn't fire Idzik after that he never will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He will have to fire Rex after this year. If he doesn't it then becomes a total reflection on him. By getting rid of Rex he has the luxury of a few more years to show his ineptitude. I say he'll be GM for at least another 2 -3 years before Woody fires his azz. If Rex returns next year its totally Woody's decision and if they bomb, they're both gone after next season. What a sad truth that the best longterm outcome is likely to be Rex and Idzik staying so they can be embarrassingly bad another year to force woody to clear house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jeannie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Not true - if the fan base deserts the home games for the rest of the season, you can bet the hit in the wallet as well as the humiliation will drive change. the amount of money Woody is saving by not spending to the cap and from his normal split of the tv contract far outweighs the monetary "pain" of people not buying tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The only guy he can hang his hat on is Richardson. No one else. This past class including Pryor and Amaro all suck. Everyone breathing qualifies for the "even a blind pig finds an acorn on occasion" reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What a sad truth that the best longterm outcome is likely to be Rex and Idzik staying so they can be embarrassingly bad another year to force woody to clear house. Exactly. This team is a joke for the next 2-3 years regardless of the scenario because Rex or Idziot will be here. And when they're both gone, it will be another 2-3 years to rebuild. So where are looking at another 4-5 years of garbage. Thanks Woody! Instead of dressing up in green or white to Jet games, fans should come dressed in paper bags until this organization cleans house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 the amount of money Woody is saving by not spending to the cap and from his normal split of the tv contract far outweighs the monetary "pain" of people not buying tickets. True, but one of the benefits of the new stadium is that in his benevolence to skip PSL's on the upper deck Woody Johnson allowed 27,000 fans to speak with their wallets. Unlike the Giants and other PSL teams, the Jets have 1/3 of the joint that's up for grabs each April and so he can't just sit back and watch. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Why aren't the Jets working out players on a daily basis? why hasn't Simms been elevated to the 53 man roster yet? It's like no one in Floram park thinks the Jets are doing bad this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The no shows may set a record the last couple of games- that will get Woody's attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What a sad truth that the best longterm outcome is likely to be Rex and Idzik staying so they can be embarrassingly bad another year to force woody to clear house. This is the last thing any of you want. Idzik will pay to get Rex corners and use up all that wonderful cap space you all love so much. They would also probably extend Harris to keep him around, but keep Mo WIlk swinging. You do not want a GM that tied to a coach needing instant success. It will give us the old Tannenbaum 2011/2012. With corners they won't be embarrasingly bad enough to give you the draft pick you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The point is that the Rex retention into a new regime, which many fans lobbied for, is the reason we don't have a competent GM. This entire backwards way of running things set this franchise back years, when we could've and should've just cleaned house to begin with. TO THIS DAY, there are still fans lobbying to fire Idzik, WHILE KEEPING REX! It's like bizarro world. And I agree that both should be fired. Ideally, both should've been fired today. +1 We are where we are today because Woody Johnson fired the two guys he should have kept and kept the one guy he should have fired. Much of it had to do with the Buttfumble embarrassing the fans and the perception that 'blue collar' Rex was a fan favorite. Mark Sanchez proved that with a set of playmakers he could win 11 games and was money in the postseason, got off to a great start and had legitimate reasons why he hit the wall. Would have been interesting to see him get a shot to bond with some home-grown talent but Ryan never drafted anyone. Mike Tannenbaum proved adept at the salary cap for over a decade and that he could build a playoff contender via the draft and free agency. In his attempt to drum up PR and sell a stadium he actually built a Super Bowl contender. Would have been interesting to see him repeat himself with a better head coach. Rex Ryan inherited an 8-3 team and burned it to the ground, still making the same rookie mistakes, still not caring at all about offense. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 +1We are where we are today because Woody Johnson fired the two guys he should have kept and kept the one guy he should have fired. Much of it had to do with the Buttfumble embarrassing the fans and the perception that 'blue collar' Rex was a fan favorite.Mark Sanchez proved that with a set of playmakers he could win 11 games and was money in the postseason, got off to a great start and had legitimate reasons why he hit the wall. Would have been interesting to see him get a shot to bond with some home-grown talent but Ryan never drafted anyone.Mike Tannenbaum proved adept at the salary cap for over a decade and that he could build a playoff contender via the draft and free agency. In his attempt to drum up PR and sell a stadium he actually built a Super Bowl contender. Would have been interesting to see him repeat himself with a better head coach.Rex Ryan inherited an 8-3 team and burned it to the ground, still making the same rookie mistakes, still not caring at all about offense.SAR I Excellent post. I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Excellent post. I totally agree. We waited so long for a franchise quarterback and when we found one we f-cked him up and ran him out of town. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 IS-DICK REALLY DOESNT HAVE A CLUE......WE ARE FINISHED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 We waited so long for a franchise quarterback and when we found one we f-cked him up and ran him out of town.SAR I Yep. At the very least we knew with the right team around him Sanchez could win. Then they threw him away for perhaps the worst starting QB in Jets history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 +1 We are where we are today because Woody Johnson fired the two guys he should have kept and kept the one guy he should have fired. Much of it had to do with the Buttfumble embarrassing the fans and the perception that 'blue collar' Rex was a fan favorite. Mark Sanchez proved that with a set of playmakers he could win 11 games and was money in the postseason, got off to a great start and had legitimate reasons why he hit the wall. Would have been interesting to see him get a shot to bond with some home-grown talent but Ryan never drafted anyone. Mike Tannenbaum proved adept at the salary cap for over a decade and that he could build a playoff contender via the draft and free agency. In his attempt to drum up PR and sell a stadium he actually built a Super Bowl contender. Would have been interesting to see him repeat himself with a better head coach. Rex Ryan inherited an 8-3 team and burned it to the ground, still making the same rookie mistakes, still not caring at all about offense. SAR I Revisionist history. Sanchez was a turnover machine and was done here, he was a shell when he finally got the mercy killing. He was better than Geno, but that's like saying herpes is better than gonorrhea. Tannenbaum left us in cap hell after leaving the team with no depth by trading all of his mid round draft picks. Idzik sucks too, but by Tannenbaum had to go. Let's not romanticize the past, it wasn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tannenbaum wasnt a personnel guy either...its basically what it comes down to. Francesa is right...you listen to Jerry Reese talk and it's football centric. Idzik's up there stating rehearsed buzzwords that the fan base can see right through. The guy needs to be fired for this draft. We cant trust him with a top 5 pick here...like Tannenbaum he just seems woefully unqualified to pick football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerKing Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What a sad truth that the best longterm outcome is likely to be Rex and Idzik staying so they can be embarrassingly bad another year to force woody to clear house. This is disturbingly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 the amount of money Woody is saving by not spending to the cap and from his normal split of the tv contract far outweighs the monetary "pain" of people not buying tickets. That is totally false bit. Player salaries are a fixed expense, and has no impact on any owners bottom line. Because of the revenue sharing plan in the NFL, the only revenue owners put in their pocket is PSL's, ticket sales, concession sales and parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Came hoping for a "We Suck, it's unacceptable, and it will be fixed" strait talk. Knew better of course. This is the horribad PR bullsh*t excuse making hot air bullsh*t blah blah of boring nothing. On the bright side, there is a gal outside my office window with a literally spectacular ass. So at least there is that. Picture, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Lets face it, the guy is dillusional. It's not funny. It is scary. I got douche chills listening to him speak at today's press conference. We are the joke of the NFL. Please Woody sell the team and go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Jets next 3 home games are the Steelers and Dolphins on the verge of playoff berths,and the Pats. by dint of other fan bases excellent chance Johnson will have himself 3 sellouts with the stadium mostly rooting for the visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This thread = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Jets next 3 home games are the Steelers and Dolphins on the verge of playoff berths,and the Pats. by dint of other fan bases excellent chance Johnson will have himself 3 sellouts with the stadium mostly rooting for the visitors. Visitor money spends like home tesm money gimme that loot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This thread = The pussy is rather nonplussed by this heavy petting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Idzik is getting lambasted on Twitter. Is it really that bad? Pragmatically, no. It really wasn't that bad. The problem is that whomever in the organization thought that having a press conference making those points the day after they just got dominated at home and fell to 1-7, is a ******* moron. The Jets aren't going to make the playoffs for the 4th year in a row, the team has been an embarrassment, and Woody Johnson and John Idzik thought it would be a good idea to go to the press and voice their support for Rex and Geno Smith the day after that ******* game. We have good players and good coaches, we're like soooooo close to winning these games. Get real. Just stay in your offices and don't have the press conference if that's what you plan on saying, the whole thing was just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 +1 We are where we are today because Woody Johnson fired the two guys he should have kept and kept the one guy he should have fired. Much of it had to do with the Buttfumble embarrassing the fans and the perception that 'blue collar' Rex was a fan favorite. Mark Sanchez proved that with a set of playmakers he could win 11 games and was money in the postseason, got off to a great start and had legitimate reasons why he hit the wall. Would have been interesting to see him get a shot to bond with some home-grown talent but Ryan never drafted anyone. Mike Tannenbaum proved adept at the salary cap for over a decade and that he could build a playoff contender via the draft and free agency. In his attempt to drum up PR and sell a stadium he actually built a Super Bowl contender. Would have been interesting to see him repeat himself with a better head coach. Rex Ryan inherited an 8-3 team and burned it to the ground, still making the same rookie mistakes, still not caring at all about offense. SAR I pretty much right on the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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