Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 LOL. Go look at the last HC who switched teams and what their old teams got in compensation. This deal,is an absolute disgrace. You can save all that "atleast we got something " sh*t for your nephews. We got bent over and took right up the ass. Only the Ny Jets. Terry Bradway needs to be fired ASAP. Woody Johnson needs his farging head examined for letting this go down. WTF is wrong with you? I would have rather fired Herm edwards on principal AFTER KC hired another guy. WHy would you cave into their demands? HE WAS OUR HC UNDER CONTRACT YOU STUPID ****WADS!!!! You get what YOU want for him or they don't get what they(KC& Herm) wants. WTF is so hard to grasp about that? Terry Bradway is as incompetent a GM as they come.The Ny Jets deserve everything said about them. WE ARE A JOKE. a 2nd day pick for a HC who was under contract? Are you kidding me? This is so pathetic Im sick to my stomach. Wanna see it get worse? Watch this incompetent GM hire a POS HC. I don't care who has what to say right now...This is a slap in the face to all Jets fans. Terry Bradway is a POS ,scumbag,mother****er who I wish herpes on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 A 2nd for Vermeil and you think Herm is worth that much You're off your goddamn rocker Smizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Smizz-All I can say is yup. We got jacked pretty good. Stealing a coach who is under contract for picks that GM's in this league swap like trading cards. Out of principle, we should have just fired Herm rather than looking this naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 they got a 2nd AND a third not to mention that the jets got a 1st plus other picks for bellichik who had done NOTHING as a head coach at that point. the bottom line is that bradway bent over for his pal peterson. bradway dosn't have what it takes to play hardball and really make the jets a franchise people have to take seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 A 2nd for Vermeil and you think Herm is worth that much You're off your goddamn rocker Smizzy Try again. The got more than that. It doesn't matter what you think Herm is worth. How do we get the lowest compensation deal in NFL history for our HC? You are telling me a 4th rd pick is good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Try again. The got more than that. It doesn't matter what you think Herm is worth. How do we get the lowest compensation deal in NFL history for our HC? You are telling me a 4th rd pick is good enough for you? I'm telling you Herman Edwards getting the **** out of New York is good enough for me. Better a 4th rounder than nothing at all for firing his dumb ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Try again. The got more than that. It doesn't matter what you think Herm is worth. How do we get the lowest compensation deal in NFL history for our HC? You are telling me a 4th rd pick is good enough for you? i would've MUCH rather herm have to sit out a year and we get nothing then get this joke deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 To be honest from my personal viewpoint i would have given KC a 6th rd pick to take him From my business viewpoint, the minimum pick would be a #3 pick and if Peterson did not like it, herm could watch grass grow for 2 f'n years. Woody would not miss $4m... btw beer would go up a dime. Woody is a terrible business man and we as jet fans all took in up the arse 2day. Some fans like Limo may have enjoyed this Ned Beatty experience in the woods. But for most it was a painful day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 they got a 2nd AND a third not to mention that the jets got a 1st plus other picks for bellichik who had done NOTHING as a head coach at that point. the bottom line is that bradway bent over for his pal peterson. bradway dosn't have what it takes to play hardball and really make the jets a franchise people have to take seriously. AND Vermeil, while technically under contract, was NOT the Rams head coach when StL was given those two first-day picks. StL had ALREADY HIRED MARTZ. Herm, for better or for worse, was our ACTING HEAD COACH (insert joke here). We did not have a replacement & weren't even shopping around for one because he was still our HC. This doesn't even take into consideration the blatant tampering, which should have (or still should) warrant a at least a punitive 1st rounder. If Tagliabue is AT ALL concerned about this, he should make the Chiefs fork over TWO first rounders WHETHER HERM SIGNS WITH KC OR NOT. Then IF they still want him we also get the 4th that was "negotiated" for. That is the only way this crap is put to an end. Meaning the next time, if the negotiated price for a HC is a 1st & a 4th or whatever, and tampering is discovered, it costs the tampering team an ADDITIONAL 2 first-rounders whether they end up signing the coach for the 1st/4th or not. KC can whine all they want about it after the fact, but everyone in the world knows this whole thing was orchestrated by Herm/Peterson at a minimum & may or may not have also involved Terry. You can't do the time? Then don't do the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Smizzy, you are right on when you talk about this from a business point of view. However, we all know that if KC had not presented itself, Hermie would have been standing on the Jets sideline next September screwing up timeouts and two point conversions, again. I think everyone is relieved this came up and he is gone and actually getting something for him is a bonus. But, in the business sense and for the precident it sets for the league, you are 100% right. Imagine if you were to say, "Let's go get John Fox from Carolina and give them a 4th rounder" you would be laughed at for undervaluing a coach under contract. The thing is, we all know Herm is dookie. KC and Peterson seemingly don't and should have been made to pay more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Smizzy, you are right on when you talk about this from a business point of view. However, we all know that if KC had not presented itself, Hermie would have been standing on the Jets sideline next September screwing up timeouts and two point conversions, again. I think everyone is relieved this came up and he is gone and actually getting something for him is a bonus. But, in the business sense and for the precident it sets for the league, you are 100% right. Imagine if you were to say, "Let's go get John Fox from Carolina and give them a 4th rounder" you would be laughed at for undervaluing a coach under contract. The thing is, we all know Herm is dookie. KC and Peterson seemingly don't and should have been made to pay more. This is a post I can agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 LOL. Go look at the last HC who switched teams and what their old teams got in compensation. This deal,is an absolute disgrace. You can save all that "atleast we got something " Sh#t for your nephews. We got bent over and took right up the a$$. Only the Ny Jets. Terry Bradway needs to be fired ASAP. Woody Johnson needs his farging head examined for letting this go down. WTF is wrong with you? I would have rather fired Herm edwards on principal AFTER KC hired another guy. WHy would you cave into their demands? HE WAS OUR HC UNDER CONTRACT YOU STUPID ****WADS!!!! You get what YOU want for him or they don't get what they(KC& Herm) wants. WTF is so hard to grasp about that? Terry Bradway is as incompetent a GM as they come.The Ny Jets deserve everything said about them. WE ARE A JOKE. a 2nd day pick for a HC who was under contract? Are you kidding me? This is so pathetic Im sick to my stomach. Wanna see it get worse? Watch this incompetent GM hire a POS HC. I don't care who has what to say right now...This is a slap in the face to all Jets fans. Terry Bradway is a POS ,scumbag,MotherF****r who I wish herpes on!! Terry must have f#cked up his original asking price. If I was the Jets GM, and the Chiefs come calling for my head coach (who everyone backed during the season) I ask for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rd picks. Asking for a 1st rd pick might just completely shut off all future talks with the Chiefs, thats a risk almost not worth taking. Nobody knows what was said back and forth, maybe Terry did ask for a 1st rd pick, and the Chiefs said screw off but the Jets continued talking which showed to the Chiefs that the Jets really wanted to get rid of Herm, and who wouldnt. I'm not ecstatic about the deal and I think Bradway should have gotten maybe a 5th rd pick too, but lets be real here. Herm is a crappy coach and the Jets know it, they took whatever they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Really, if teh NFL and Tagliabue sit idley by and let this all come down, they are setting a precedent of epic proportion. The sanctity of a contract is meant to be a bond betwen a coach and a club. It is meant to secure services and mean that NO ONE ELSE can even touch him. Not unless they do so with elevated intentions. This just reeks. Say what you want about Herm and his abilities. This is NOT about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Giving another team your acting HC because they covet him for a a pick THEY want to give you...doesn't sound odd? WHy the **** would we bend over and help out KC? FOR WHAT? WHY WOULD TERRY BRADYWAY GIVE HERM TO KC FOR BEANS? Even if you think he is only worth 1 bean. You don't try to get 2? You don't say " Hey...this is the guy you want? ..He is under contract here...give us ____ and he is yours" Terry Bradway is a steaming pile of cow sh*t. If I was in a bar id hit him in the face with a beer bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Is it possible that Herman doesn't leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Really, if teh NFL and Tagliabue sit idley by and let this all come down, they are setting a precedent of epic proportion. The sanctity of a contract is meant to be a bond betwen a coach and a club. It is meant to secure services and mean that NO ONE ELSE can even touch him. Not unless they do so with elevated intentions. This just reeks. Say what you want about Herm and his abilities. This is NOT about that. NAIL | | v HEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Is it possible that Herman doesn't leave?no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Is it possible that Herman doesn't leave? No.He's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No.He's gone. he still hasnt left, he was spotted in the parking lot just now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Giving another team your acting HC because they covet him for a a pick THEY want to give you...doesn't sound odd? WHy the F#ck would we bend over and help out KC? FOR WHAT? WHY WOULD TERRY BRADYWAY GIVE HERM TO KC FOR BEANS? Even if you think he is only worth 1 bean. You don't try to get 2? You don't say " Hey...this is the guy you want? ..He is under contract here...give us ____ and he is yours" Terry Bradway is a steaming pile of cow Sh#t. If I was in a bar id hit him in the face with a beer bottle. Seriously now. Maybe just maybe, Bradway is completely playing the Chiefs. Who knows, its possible that maybe as soon as Herm signs with the Chiefs that Bradway goes right to Tagliabue and orders an investigation and the Jets end up getting a 1st rd pick and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Seriously now. Maybe just maybe, Bradway is completely playing the Chiefs. Who knows, its possible that maybe as soon as Herm signs with the Chiefs that Bradway goes right to Tagliabue and orders an investigation and the Jets end up getting a 1st rd pick and more. What are the odds Bradway is playing stupid after all these years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 What are the odds Bradway is playing stupid after all these years? Bradway Master of Disguise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Seriously now. Maybe just maybe, Bradway is completely playing the Chiefs. Who knows, its possible that maybe as soon as Herm signs with the Chiefs that Bradway goes right to Tagliabue and orders an investigation and the Jets end up getting a 1st rd pick and more. i think that goes without sayin,, i gurantee jets will file tampering charges AFTER Herm has signed with KC,,, Vermeils 'he would be a good successor' speech is enough to get the case heard,,who knows what else they have, cellphone records etc,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Who files the charges? Not Bradway. There is no chance in hell Terry Bradway files tampering charges againt Carl Peterson adn Kansas City. Will Woody? Does he even know enoguh to? I doubt it. Terry Bradway bent over backwards to help his boys(Peterson & Herm) get whay they wanted. He doesn't have the balls to files these charges. You can see that from how he played this with his tail firmly tucked between his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm not crying about getting a fourth and here's why. Let's be honest here. Was Herm a good coach or not? If he's a good coach, then yeah, we got jacked...but, to me, this was a guy who got his OJT as a HC right here with the Jets and he still has a lot to learn...in fact, I don't think he's learned one damn thing. So, I'll take that fourth round pick from the Chiefs and say adios and let the Chief fans bitch and moan about his playing calling or lack there of. Bye Herm you SOB...you had me fooled the first year and I adopted your namesake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 What are the odds Bradway is playing stupid after all these years? Impossible, nobody is that good of an actor. Laurence Olivier couldn't act any more stupid than Bradway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Don't be suprised when we don't follow tampering charges and just roll over and say "Thanks KC ....call me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Bradway has strong ties to K.C. He even went after Herm because of Herm's K.C. connections in the past. My guess...Bradway knows he's not going to last forever with the Jets, and giving K.C. a favorable deal will likely land him a position over there in the future. What we as fans see on the surface is merely the smoke and mirrors of Public Relations and the sugar-coating of the management figure-heads. Bradway sold us out to do himself a favor when the ax finally falls on his own neck. Scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 So Parcells is worth 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks, Belichick is worth 1st, 4th, and 7th rounds, Gruden is worth two 1sts and two 2nds, Vermeil sitting at home is worth 2nd and 3rd round picks, and Herm is only worth a 4th round pick? Granted Gruden was obviously overpaid for and all four are far better coaches than Herm, I can't believe we didn't at the very least get a 3rd round pick. Given the past, I can believe how bad they handled the situation. But only a 4th round pick? Its pitiful really. I wonder if Herm thinks he's worth more than a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Those last 2 posts are on the money! POTW NOMS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I liken this to the Corey Patterson situation in Chicago. If you can get something for him, take it. He needs to be gone anyway, and I'm thrilled KC was dumb enough to give us a draft pick. OF COURSE, this was ****ed up by Bradway and Woody. WTF else is new? This is not worse than the whole DOug Jolley, McCareins, or D-Rob trades. Sure, we had plenty of leverage, but we knew already that Bradway was a sh*t GM. Be glad KC didn't send us their 7th rounder in 2008. Apparently, "the joke is on us". We'll see if that's the case 4 years from now when the Chiefs are searching for a replacement and Hermy is headed to San Diego State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This deal,is an absolute disgrace. You can save all that "atleast we got something " Sh#t for your nephews. We got bent over and took right up the a$$. Smizzy you have been crying for years about how dumb Herm is. Instead of firing him they got a player. You are either lying or a hypocrite. And I know you never lie. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Smizzy you have been crying for years about how dumb Herm is. Instead of firing him they got a player. You are either lying or a hypocrite. And I know you never lie. :wink: Im mad because once again ,another front office has exposed ours as incompetent. This was fumbled from the get go. Every news source in the America is reporting how we fumbled the ball here. We got the lowest compensation for any HC given the last 20 years. Do you think that is a coincidence? Am i suppose to turn my head because I got what I wanted? Herm out? Why does everybody keep looking at the small picture here? Herm is out as Hc. awesome! I fail to see the positive is having our front office exposed as idiots right before we attempt to hire a NEW HC to our 4-12 team. Is that ok with you webmaster? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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