Kleckineau Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He may have cemented himself as the #1 pick making him out of reach for the NYJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilkshake69 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 If the Raiders get the pick, they are probably trading it. They like Carr and want to build around him. They will sell Mariota to the highest bidder. Will we be the team that pays the premium? Idzik won't. Will he be in charge though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Unfourtunately I don't think Idzik is going anywhere. He might attempt to trade up but he won't give up too much. What if the raiders wanted a player and a pick. Like Mo and our 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He is way closer to Russel Wilson than Luck, wait until he plays a real defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Posted this another thread if the Jets have to you trade the next 5 years of 1st round picks to land Mariota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Posted this another thread if the Jets have to you trade the next 5 years of 1st round picks to land Mariota Just send iddy an email, I am sure he will read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He is way closer to Russel Wilson than Luck, wait until he plays a real defense He looks much better out of the pocket. Was not impressed by his first half play. Some poorly thrown balls before half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He looks much better out of the pocket. Was not impressed by his first half play. Some poorly thrown balls before half time. This. He didn't look all that good in the pocket. Was scrambling around most of the time and while he made some really impressive throws on the move, it has been proven that you need a true pocket QB to succeed in the long term. I'd take Mariotta but i Would not trade up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 If the Raiders get the pick, they are probably trading it. They like Carr and want to build around him. They will sell Mariota to the highest bidder. Will we be the team that pays the premium? Idzik won't. Will he be in charge though... Have you seen how much it costs to move up for the #1 pick? Oakland won't find any suitors unless it's reasonable everyone knows they have Carr already. Teams might trade up to the 2nd or 3rd spot depending on what those teams needs are. Unless an Andrew Luck is sitting there you stay where you. I watched last night too but how do you evaluate these guys like Mariota? And if you do take them you better bring in coaches that can utilize his assets and coach him up. I will say, he reminds me of Tannyhill but faster. We'll see I guess. We do have to keep swinging for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He will win the Heisman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He will win the Heisman. And that will mean nothing on whether he can succeed in the NFL as we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 And that will mean nothing on whether he can succeed in the NFL as we know Never said it would. All I meant by it is that he's been the best college player this year and will be rewarded for it with the Heisman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Bryce Petty in the second is my choice. Watch him tonight against K-State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Never said it would. All I meant by it is that he's been the best college player this year and will be rewarded for it with the Heisman. So did Charley Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Only watched until halftime and came away unimpressed. If he's their pick, fine, but count me off the bandwagon of trading up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Only watched until halftime and came away unimpressed. If he's their pick, fine, but count me off the bandwagon of trading up for him. Yes the first half he was off target but came on in second half. Question for me is can he be a pocket passer- he shows he can make the throws on the run or outside the pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 This is not a good QB class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Obv the #1 prospect in the draft bc he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He looks much better out of the pocket. Was not impressed by his first half play. Some poorly thrown balls before half time. This could hardly call him a beast. He didn't play well at all in the first half. Should have had two interceptions. At the half Zona was a beaten team. Mostly due to the pounding running game the Ducks were hitting them with. in the 3 rd Mariota came on strong and made some beautiful throws, and some nice plays with his legs. Still not sure his game translates to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He will win the Heisman. So did Tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Won't be surprised to see Cook change his tune about staying in school another year. With the way it's going, the kid seems damn near guaranteed to be drafted in the top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy_8577 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Three years in a a row of not a good QB class? I gotta believe there's a gem or two in this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 This is not a good QB class. You can do worse than Mariota and Winston. If Connor Cook comes out (which he probably won't), I think it's a respectable class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Bryce Petty in the second is my choice. Watch him tonight against K-State. BIG reach in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Three years in a a row of not a good QB class? I gotta believe there's a gem or two in this one... Not really. Nothing worth a top ten pick. Mariotta is the only one I'd take in the first round. I like Brissett in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 BIG reach in the 2nd. I am thinking he will skyrocket at the combine. Wont be there for our third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Another QB or two will emerge like always. The question is whether they emerge while Winston or Marriota fall or whether they all rate near the top at the end of the day. It's still way too early to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 BIG reach in the 2nd. think tonight's game will have a big impact on that, right now from what I'm reading he has a late 2nd-3rd round grade. of course it only matters what NFL GM's think, not the draft guru's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 If the Raiders get the pick, they are probably trading it. They like Carr and want to build around him. They will sell Mariota to the highest bidder. Will we be the team that pays the premium? Idzik won't. Will he be in charge though... The Raiders are not going to drop down too far. Later in the draft process we all will know the Elite Tier. If that tier is only Mariotta, Gregory, and Williams the Raiders won't go past that. Lets hope the other teams that need a QB (Titans/Bucs) win a few more games and draft after that tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 He is way closer to Russel Wilson than Luck, wait until he plays a real defense # 7 team, #12 defense in the country. mariota could do 500/100 vs alabama's defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Unfourtunately I don't think Idzik is going anywhere. He might attempt to trade up but he won't give up too much. What if the raiders wanted a player and a pick. Like Mo and our 2nd. That's not inconceivable considering the Raiders badly need D-line help. I'd make that trade, and use the $ saved not signing Mo by going after Suh and giving him a deal like Tampa just gave McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Won't be surprised to see Cook change his tune about staying in school another year. With the way it's going, the kid seems damn near guaranteed to be drafted in the top 15. He is definitely coming out. Such a terrible QB draft. Winston may drop down to mid to late first and Mariotta is going to get ripped more then people think during the process. He will still go top 5 but QB's with his style bust often. Remember Geno Smith 2 years ago was projected number 1 at this time, and Bridgewater the same last year. Both fell dramatically after the season ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 # 7 team, #12 defense in the country. mariota could do 500/100 vs alabama's defense Ummm we shall see, the AZ offense was putrid, which kept AZ defense on the field entire game. MM looks like Wilson, not a great pocket passer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I am thinking he will skyrocket at the combine. Wont be there for our third. think tonight's game will have a big impact on that, right now from what I'm reading he has a late 2nd-3rd round grade. of course it only matters what NFL GM's think, not the draft guru's Yeah, I guess we won't have an accurate idea of where he lands until after the combine. He would be an OK project, but still has plenty of warts that need to be cleaned up if he's going to have success in the NFL. I can see the appeal of the raw material, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeah, I guess we won't have an accurate idea of where he lands until after the combine. He would be an OK project, but still has plenty of warts that need to be cleaned up if he's going to have success in the NFL. I can see the appeal of the raw material, though. I want him sitting for a season behind a vet. I prefer Locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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