Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 It's ok he hates me too. If someone hates more than one person does it the go from PM to OT forum? I also have no problem with you, but you've gone above and beyond convincing yourself that your issues are mine. We don't need to revisit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You're responding to what in essence is a citizens arrest. Integrity is not a mod.. just tell him to gfh and move on. I'm new here and am trying to fit in, haven't done anything wrong as far as I can see. Though not a mod, Integrity appears to be a long-time poster here and I'm not, it's like the new kid sitting down at the 8th grade lunch table and being ridiculed because he put ketchup on his fries incorrectly. Sorry. Didn't know there was a right way. You seem to be nice though, you seem to be welcoming. Will you be my friend? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Other than Kelvin Benjamin and Martavis Bryant (whom everyone was calling Stephen Hill Jr), who did you want instead at the time? In retrospect, the right thing to do was trade up a few times, but going round by round, he didn't lose out on that many guys. John Brown? Bruce Ellington, I guess? I think we're all caught up in blaming him for not drafting guys that we had no chance to draft, like Sammy Watkins, ODB, Matthews, etc. He could have traded up and gotten Mathews or taken a need and a good player in Cooks. Lots of good WRs in this draft. Really though, I think his biggest mistake was not filling the roster out prior to the draft so he could draft BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You take posting here way too seriously. Lol, okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'm new here and am trying to fit in, haven't done anything wrong as far as I can see. Though not a mod, Integrity appears to be a long-time poster here and I'm not, it's like the new kid sitting down at the 8th grade lunch table and being ridiculed because he put ketchup on his fries incorrectly. Sorry. Didn't know there was a right way. You seem to be nice though, you seem to be welcoming. Will you be my friend? SAR I You do not want to consort with the likes of Pac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You're responding to what in essence is a citizens arrest. Integrity is not a mod.. just tell him to gfh and move on. I'm on my phone, otherwise I'd be posting a pic of Sweetchuck from Police Academy, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I also have no problem with you, but you've gone above and beyond convincing yourself that your issues are mine. We don't need to revisit it. No idea what you are talking about revisiting. Again, you take yourself and this board too serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I also have no problem with you, but you've gone above and beyond convincing yourself that your issues are mine. We don't need to revisit it. Why do you feel the need to call out other posters so much? Talk about the Jets, have fun with the conversations, don't read those who's writings you don't like. Not sure why you feel you're the official poster critic of JN. Most times the calling out of others posters you so frequently do is worse than the typed words you found so offensive to begin with. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You do not want to consort with the likes of Pac. Why not ? Landscaping is an expense , not an investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You do not want to consort with the likes of Pac. Tell me who's at the cool kids table please. I sit there in real life, deserve to sit there here. Even if they don't like me, I'm sure I can buy my way in. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You do not want to consort with the likes of Pac. Well that's not nice. I thought we were friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I thought this forum was "laid back, only three rules, no religon, no nudity, no personal attacks". Ooh, cars are horrible, shouldn't mention those, so offensive. And someone commenting and spreading untruths about another poster....that's okay?Need to decipher all of this, it's as confusing as an Idzik presser.SAR I It's honestly a great place to post. Lots of great poster - but just like with any cool hangout, there are always a few jerks who wind up picking a fight all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 So, this thread is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Why do you feel the need to call out other posters so much? Talk about the Jets, have fun with the conversations, don't read those who's writings you don't like. Not sure why you feel you're the official poster critic of JN. Most times the calling out of others posters you so frequently do is worse than the typed words you found so offensive to begin with. SAR I If I don't tell them they are all wrong, then they'll never know. I can't live with that sort of guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 He could have traded up and gotten Mathews or taken a need and a good player in Cooks. Lots of good WRs in this draft. Really though, I think his biggest mistake was not filling the roster out prior to the draft so he could draft BPA. I agree there. It was really curious what he was doing. I thought for sure we'd sign Walter Thurmond, Alterraun Verner, Jason Campbell: guys in that range. That he didn't (he did miss out on Vontae Davis, I guess), means 1. He really wanted to sabotage Rex, OR 2. He thought he had the security to carry out a four-year rebuild. Or, both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 It's honestly a great place to post. Lots of great poster - but just like with any cool hangout, there are always a few jerks who wind up picking a fight all night. You still aren't over it? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Tell me who's at the cool kids table please. I sit there in real life, deserve to sit there here. Even if they don't like me, I'm sure I can buy my way in. SAR I The secret of JN is that no one here is cool or particularly smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 So, this thread is going well. You expected high art at midnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The secret of JN is that no one here is cool or particularly smart. What's the deal with this Integrity guy who is giving me a hard time? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I agree there. It was really curious what he was doing. I thought for sure we'd sign Walter Thurmond, Alterraun Verner, Jason Campbell: guys in that range. That he didn't (he did miss out on Vontae Davis, I guess), means 1. He really wanted to sabotage Rex, OR 2. He thought he had the security to carry out a four-year rebuild. Or, both. Yeah maybe he thought he had more security than he actually did? That to me is the only thing that makes sense. Either way I like that he went all cheap on the cap. I really do. But sign some David Barrett's of the world for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 .....so you're saying that better GMs don't want Rex as their head coach? What happened to all the "he'll have a new HC job in FIVE MINUTES" jargon y'all were flapping only a few precious weeks ago? The ol' Buffalo blowout take the ol' starch outcha britches? Nonsense. I recognized at the time that it affected the quality of GM candidates they got, and have said it many times since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 What's the deal with this Integrity guy who is giving me a hard time? SAR I You consider "don't get yourself banned" a hard time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You expected high art at midnight? Well, no. But at the very least I did not expect to see Shane get played like ******* Jesse Pinkman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah maybe he thought he had more security than he actually did? That to me is the only thing that makes sense. Either way I like that he went all cheap on the cap. I really do. But sign some David Barrett's of the world for crying out loud. I agree, what he did with the cap was great, the issue is he missed on damn near every move he did make. I don't buy into any if the " sabotage Rex" theories, just too much risk of it backfiring on him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Well, no. But at the very least I did not expect to see Shane get played like ******* Jesse Pinkman. LOL I think Tom has put on a good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No idea what you are talking about revisiting. Again, you take yourself and this board too serious. This post came after I said I wanted to post a picture if Sweetchuck. Spot on buddy, spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 That's how it's normally done. These guys have been (for better or worse) preparing all year for the draft, and the new GM will go into the draft with their work to work with. Front offices generally don't turn over until after the draft. With all the teams working that same way, there are really no replacements available until after the draft - even if you wanted to clean house early. If that's the protocol then its utter nonsense. Granted you would have to start from scratch but if you're going to make a statement, then make a bold statement. Get rid of Rex, Idziot and all that goes with it. Get rid of Bradway and his entourage. Cut Geno Catpiss Smith while you're at it. The guy is poison. Just like they cut ties with Holmes, its time for Smith to go. He has proven he is not mentally equipped to be an NFL QB on numerous levels. Time to MOVE ON. Bringing on a new GM/coach and keeping this albatross is just stupid and ill. Hire a guy like Harbaugh and put him in charge. He's young enough to deal with all the intangibles and would more than welcome it. Let him develop a scouting department, the guy has ties all over the country. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to pick 7 players in a draft. This team needs a QB, a corner, a WR, a LB that's 4 picks right there in that order of urgency. Anyone on this board would have probably made better picks than Idziot in the last 2 years. Clean HOUSE, fresh start, take an unconventional path. Anyone who takes over needs to pick a QB so this is a rebuilding project. Approach it similar to what Sandy Alderson has done with the Mets who are slowly becoming extremely dangerous, and they've been cash strapped. They have been very patient and stockpiled an incredible assortment of arms similar to what the Giants have done. Take a slow and patient approach, trade older players like DBRick, Harris, Mangold, aybe even a few DL men as this is our surplus of talent, free up money, get younger, get rid of these damn scrubs and older players like Wilson, Colon, Cumberland, Hakim. etc. Let everyone know no one is safe. 2015 needs to be The NEW New York Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Kept the wrong guy, fired the wrong two guys. You keep the GM that averaged 9.5 wins per year with a healthy quarterback since 1997, you keep the QB that won 4 playoff games when he should have been in college, you don't keep the buffoon who goes down in NFL history as the only head coach to retain his job after publicly admitting he doesn't know anything about offense nor does he care. But I don't blame Woody Johnson. I blame you, Mr. Blue Collar Jets Fan. You drink in the parking lots and you curse in front of my children and you piss on my BMW and you were so embarassed by the Tebow signing and the Buttfumble and you look and act like Rex so Woody did you a solid. Enjoying it? SAR I And there comes the JI bullsh#t, lol, didn't take nearly that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Try this little exercise: Go back two years and pretend that Idzik takes the job, Rex is fired, and--say--Darrell Bevell is hired. Now, instead of having the front office operating on a different schedule than the entire coaching staff, the whole team has one unified goal. Instead of chasing around meaningless wins at the end of last season in an effort to save the head coach's job, we're evaluating rookies and putting them in positions where they can learn. Now, instead of going 8-8, we go, say, 6-10. In the first round, Idzik takes Beckham Jr. In the 2nd round, he can take Jordan Matthews if he wants. Maybe having one (or both?) of those guys, helps Geno out a little bit...or maybe the former QB coach Bevell looks at Geno and says he wants no part of him in the first place! ALAS NO! What we have now is the exact same situation where Dead Man Walking Head Coach is still trotting the 96 year-old Jason Babin and Calvin Pace and Dawan Landry out there every snap in an attempt to pad his personal defensive stats at the expense of (wait for it) THE EVIL JOHN IDZIK'S DRAFT PICKS!!!!! Just imagine a world in which the brand new GM isn't on a completely different operating plan than the cockroach head coach: a world in which the teaching aspect of coaching young talent isn't put on the backburner in deference to trying to squeeze out another .500 season. If we'd picked Marino and not O'Brien... #Pro-IdzikAgenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 And there comes the JI bullsh#t, lol, didn't take nearly that long. It's just schtick, Joe. It's all Shecky knows how to do on message boards. You know, derail threads into discussions of him and not about football, this team and what has to done to.make it better, You know the rest of the schtick too...the martyr role, continued provoking and insulting, followed by crying to the mods for bans when he gets a response. Hopefully the mods here at JN are smart enough to.see through his lame and tired old Catskills vaudeville routine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Jim Harbaugh is the plan.We need to re-do what we did from Rich Kotite to Bill Parcells. We need an angry, aggressive owner to steal the best man available for the job to bring in his own people and turn this thing around. Is Harbaugh my dream coach? No. But is he the guy suited to restore order and stop the country club atmosphere? Absolutely.SAR I Your completely right about this. The players that keep defending Rex are doing so because it's great to play in a place with no accountability & pick up your check each week. The problem is what is the cost to get him? The Jets are in no position to lose a bunch of high draft picks. I want Mariota & a coach like Harbaugh to coach him up. How do we pull that off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yup, I do like what he's done with what he's been given. Do I think he has an amazing grasp of all three phases of the game? Nope. Don't think anyone does. That's what assistant coaches are for. Coaches/coordinators only as good as the tools they're given to work with. Even with that said and the horrible team fielded this year, I've been amazed some weeks at the defensive schemes Rex has come up with vs teams like Denver, NE... The offense has actually had some decent weeks too. Showing that even though the offensive talent blows, they still play for Rex. Develop QBs? He's a defensive guy so, no I don't expect him to personally develop QBs. However I'm not posting now to argure for keeping Rex. I posted becasue it sounds like Woody is going to fire "either" Rex or Idzik. That is not a tough choice in my book. It's worth giving up our 1st round pick just to fire Idzik. At least that way our remaiining picks could be promising. Sorry, I was offline after I posted. Respect your opinion, but we'll disagree on Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Most people have $399 monthly car payments loaded with finance charges, keep the car for the 5 years of the loan, keep it for another 2 years after that, sell it for a little money back, roll it into the next car.Wealthy people pay $600 a month on a lease, lease perpetually for the next 30 years, no buying it at an inflated price, car is never out of warranty, car is always new, there is no downtime where you have $0 payments for two years to catch your breath, it's $600 every month forever.Money factor and that nonsense doesn't mean a thing to a leaser. To us its another utility, no different than paying for the electricity, the phone, or the groceries each month. There is no ROI on a bottle of milk, there is no ROI on a car. You need it, you spend it each month, poof its gone.Leasing perpetually is a wealthy man's privliege because there is no keeping a luxury car for 5 years and then driving it for free for 2 years. And like many privaleges it can save you money in the long-term. Perpetual leasers never have an out-of-warranty car, so there are no repairs. If you get the right car, you don't even pay for oil changes. Perpetual leasers never have to go to DMV to register a car or clear a title or take out ads or sell the thing to a stranger.Back to the money, paying cash for a car is incredibly stupid, wealthy or not. You let your cash work for you, not against you. You don't invest in a depreciating asset, you lease it. Read a book.SAR I Both of my cars are leases. There is only one way to buy a car & make it cheaper in the long run & that is to buy a practical car used ie. Honda accord, Toyota Camry, Hyundai Sonata ( mid sized cars with excellent track records, with 30,000 miles (certified) and keep it for at least ten years, pray that it doesn't need to be serviced & sell it for $3500 with high mileage to a teenager. That's pretty much it & something that I have no interest doing,lol. I have friends that argue with me all the time about leasing my cars. My wife & I will be out to dinner with them & they'll complain about their last bill from their auto mechanic, then 2 years later they drive up an another car that they traded in for, dealer adds a few grand to the latest car cause they were underwater, (which u are as soon as you pull out of the dealer), and they rinse & repeat. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Your completely right about this. The players that keep defending Rex are doing so because it's great to play in a place with no accountability & pick up your check each week. The problem is what is the cost to get him? The Jets are in no position to lose a bunch of high draft picks. I want Mariota & a coach like Harbaugh to coach him up. How do we pull that off? I like Harbaugh but if he is such a disciplinarian, why all the player issues in sf last off season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 And 2 were absolute studs, not to mention many players BB has brought in and had success with. How many Rex malcontent projects were studs? With BB the "unmitigated disasters" = players didn't produce and were gotten rid of. Not what I'd describe as "unmitigated". With Rex the "didn't work outs" = players that usurped the coach and QB and derailed the season. Probably a better fit for "unmitigated". IMO that is more a function of the GM and sh*tty roster. Mason was the one guy that Rex supposedly brought in. He was cut pretty damn quick. Plaxico caught a sh*tload of TDs and was one and done. Holmes it the only douchebag that has been a true problem and he paid plenty of dividends in 2010. The problem is that it is okay to bring in scumbags to supplement (like Babin) but they can't be the main subset of the team. I am sure that some of that is on Rex, but a great portion may or may not be on the GM. As things stand now I don't see it as a Rex problem - The way I see it, Rex,and maybe Mornhinweg with Vick, saying they can work with headcases are like an injured player saying they can go back in the game. Maybe they can, but somebody else should decide. That is why I was hoping Idzik would be Slats' proverbial "adult in the room." Instead he has supplied Goodson, Patterson, Vick, Babin and Chris Johnson. He is not exactly stressing character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.