Larz Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 the jets have never supported a QB since I have been watching them. look at the draft when the colts took luck. this is how you do it QB TE TE WR DT RB WR OT DE QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 I'll lay odds that you never watched a single snap to Sanchez or Smith while they were in college. You lose I watched alot of WVU football liked what I saw in the kid seemed a little raw faltered in the colder weather but overall showed alot of promise wasn't he projected to be the first QB chosen in the draft as well. Teams bring in viable seasoned veterans to mentor rookie QBs and battle them in camp and to step in when needed to get the job done and we brought in Brunell for Sanchez and Vick for Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 the jets have never supported a QB since I have been watching them. look at the draft when the colts took luck. this is how you do it QB TE TE WR DT RB WR OT DE QB Kenny O'brien was the last QB before Sanchez that actually was decent the rest were slugs Geno Smith isn't done here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Damn, even in college he never stepped up in the pocket. drives me effing crazy, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Kenny O'brien was the last QB before Sanchez that actually was decent the rest were slugs Geno Smith isn't done here yet. whoa, lol vinny in '98 was very good, pennington went to a pro-bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 whoa, lol vinny in '98 was very good, pennington went to a pro-bowl Jet QBs since OBrien who were all better than Geno the BUST I have a better idea for a shorter list, those as bad or worse than Geno the BUST Brooks Bollinger Tajh Boyd That is about it Nobody with the faintest clue about football could say that Geno was ruined by anyone or any coach or by anything other than his own lack of ability to read a defense, throw an accurate pass, step up in the pocket, learn a playbook or any of the other 20 things a qb must do to succeed in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 There have been lots of QBs that have great college highlights - but can't put it together in the NFL. Geno deserves a chance to come to camp and compete in legit competition - but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 the jets have never supported a QB since I have been watching them. look at the draft when the colts took luck. this is how you do it QB TE TE WR DT RB WR OT DE QB and how many Super Bowls have that got them. Luck is one of the most sacked QBs in the league. What it boils down to is you need a a well balanced team, especially if you don't have a top flight QB. Can't ignore the offense can't ignore the defense, can't run the ball too much but can't pass the ball to much either. Team needs a talent on both sides not pro bowlers at every position but solid starters with role players and all pros sprinkled in. Plus game plans specific for each opponent and each week. It's the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Downfield throws WRs getting separation running complete routes makes a QBs job alot easier. Look at Geno WOW !!!!!!!!!!!! what legitimate NFL prospect can't you find an impressive highlight reel for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 No. He was never an NFL-calbre QB. Now, Sanchez, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 WOW This one thread started about 4 hours ago and this will be the 46th post I took another look at The Landing Strip at JI Scout a few minutes ago.and there are total of Thirty One (countem 31) posts today on ALL the threads of that forum and a total of ZERO on all the other sub forums listed Thanks again Max for JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 whoa, lol vinny in '98 was very good, pennington went to a pro-bowl Not unless he bought a ticket to the game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 all he needs is to get under a king maker like chip kelly.. then watch out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 and how many Super Bowls have that got them. Luck is one of the most sacked QBs in the league. What it boils down to is you need a a well balanced team, especially if you don't have a top flight QB. Can't ignore the offense can't ignore the defense, can't run the ball too much but can't pass the ball to much either. Team needs a talent on both sides not pro bowlers at every position but solid starters with role players and all pros sprinkled in. Plus game plans specific for each opponent and each week. It's the only way. he was drafted in 2012. how many does he need to impress you at this point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Downfield throws WRs getting separation running complete routes makes a QBs job alot easier. Look at Geno WOW !!!!!!!!!!!! All due respect.... marks similar video was extremely impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 There have been lots of QBs that have great college highlights - but can't put it together in the NFL. Geno deserves a chance to come to camp and compete in legit competition - but that's about it. Agreed. I saw 2 games at WVU and watched Geno. He was awesome. The NFL isn't college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 he was drafted in 2012. how many does he need to impress you at this point ?get back to me when they win the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 He has not always sucked. Are you ******* kid me. He had a qbr of like 5 in one of his games his rookie year. The kid sucks, we should have gave up on him last year and drafted Bridgewater or Carr like I was calling for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The behind-the-back fumble - CLASSIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 whoa, lol vinny in '98 was very good, pennington went to a pro-bowl Vinny was an old has been surrounded by a good team. Are you ******* kid me. He had a qbr of like 5 in one of his games his rookie year. The kid sucks, we should have gave up on him last year and drafted Bridgewater or Carr like I was calling for. Bridgewater and Carr? I dont remember seeing Minnesota or Oakland in the playoff picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Bridgewater and Carr? I dont remember seeing Minnesota or Oakland in the playoff picture. Fair enough, but Carr was not Oakland's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Fair enough, but Carr was not Oakland's problem. But Geno was the Jets problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 But Geno was the Jets problem? Yes. Not the only one, but a glaring one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I can't even believe this thread actually exists. Is there ever a very good college QB that just isn't good enough to play on Sundays? Does that every happen or are they always just ruined? QBs develop into all levels of professional. That's the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 I can't even believe this thread actually exists. Is there ever a very good college QB that just isn't good enough to play on Sundays? Does that every happen or are they always just ruined? QBs develop into all levels of professional. That's the way it works. 45 years and counting exists...... How many years has it taken the Jets to get a good QB? Joe Namath good. Jets fans want a guy who comes in and wins the Super Bowl in his rookie season its not going to happen. Geno Smith may have regressed in the 2014 season but so did the team around him can't blame the QB all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 get back to me when they win the first lol ok so they shouldn't have taken fleener or t.y. hilton ? your argument is very weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 lol ok so they shouldn't have taken fleener or t.y. hilton ? your argument is very weird my argument isn't an argument but my point was the colts have a great Qb and have drafted all skill position and still haven't found the "magic formula", draft all skill position and then the lines are neglected and you have the colts problem,some people say it's all playmakers some say it's all in the trenches and some say it's all about the QB but in reality to substain a winning team year in and year out there has to be some balance, unless you have one of the top 3 Qbs ine the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The question should be. Has Geno Smith ruined the Jets...JMHO God, people need to open their frickin eyes. Rex the loser has ruined two QBs under his watch. Completely. Geno may not have been Rodgers or Brady but he has some solid skills and under a proper staff would be at a minimum average. I am so fuucking tired of the Rex support. He is a fuucking cancer to this team and cannot be fired fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Whoever drafts Winston will be asking the samething in a few years. College and the nfl are to completely different styles of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 here is the thing that i see...if you watch the video you rarely see him look beyond his first read...which is the exactly what his issue is. he had stud receivers in college and he obviously had great chemistry with them...but you cant win in the NFL by staring down receivers unless you got Megaton like Stafford does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 my argument isn't an argument but my point was the colts have a great Qb and have drafted all skill position and still haven't found the "magic formula", draft all skill position and then the lines are neglected and you have the colts problem,some people say it's all playmakers some say it's all in the trenches and some say it's all about the QB but in reality to substain a winning team year in and year out there has to be some balance, unless you have one of the top 3 Qbs ine the league my point was if you draft a QB in rd 1, support him. The colts gave luck a security blanket TE, speedy WR, RB, and o-line help. that is balance. The jets didn't do that with sanchez or smith. I never said ignore the defense or trenches. I have no idea what we are arguing about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 my point was if you draft a QB in rd 1, support him. The colts gave luck a security blanket TE, speedy WR, RB, and o-line help. that is balance. The jets didn't do that with sanchez or smith. I never said ignore the defense or trenches. I have no idea what we are arguing about Not sure what else Sanchez needed besides the best running game in football, three Pro Bowlers on the offensive line, a pass catching TE, Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes and a pass catching third down back in Tomlinson. Other than that, no support at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 all he needs is to get under a king maker like chip kelly.. then watch out At this point I wonder if RG3 will have an NFL career and he was 10 x better than Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Not sure what else Sanchez needed besides the best running game in football, three Pro Bowlers on the offensive line, a pass catching TE, Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes and a pass catching third down back in Tomlinson. Other than that, no support at all What he needed was a HC who's main philosophy wasn't to run the ball and win with D. Rex was allergic to turnovers at first sign of adversity back to the G&P and try to win 10-7 games. Your right he had pretty stacked teams in 2009-10, its just a shame that our HC had no clue how to utilize the weapons they had on O, because G&P worked effectively Rex rode it till in broke and hasn't recovered since. Irony of those 2009-10 playoff runs , it was Rex's vaunted D that was the utlimate factor in the Jets getting eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 God, people need to open their frickin eyes. Rex the loser has ruined two QBs under his watch. Completely. Geno may not have been Rodgers or Brady but he has some solid skills and under a proper staff would be at a minimum average. I am so fuucking tired of the Rex support. He is a fuucking cancer to this team and cannot be fired fast enough.there is absolutely nothing to say that even comes remotely close to proving any of this as being true. G-No smith who was passed on by every team in the league and was picked in about the same spot as Keller Clemens was guaranteed to be at least an average starter but it was Rex ( the boogey man ) Ryan that sucked all his skill out of him kinda like the aliens in the movie space jam. Oh wait sanchez proves this point true because he's throwing for over three hundred yards a game in philly, except for the fact that he still makes the same stupid costly turnover every game and Philly isn't going anywhere this year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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