Ian Rappaport: Plenty of teams interested in Rex Ryan

[JustInFudge]

There's no denying given all the pieces that fit his scheme Rex's defenses can be above average to good. If he needs to adapt and adjust w/o some key players he's toast.

 

 

Lost Kris Jenkins for the year - still #1 D.  Lost Leon Washington for the year - still # rushing team in the league (first time the Jets led the league in offensive category since 1967).

 

Rex was just hanging out watching...he really didnt do anything.  lmfao

 

lmfao 

 

Lost Revis for the season in 2012 - still had the 2nd best pass defense in the league.

[JustInFudge]

Jets fans crack me up.

[jetrider]

Wow, six monotonous pages of bickering and not one confirmed team that's interested in Rex Ryan. 

[HessStation]

That's Yards.

 

Yards don't win games.  Points do.

 

Points:

 

2009:  17th

2010:  13th

2011:  13th

2012:  28th

2013:  29th

2014:  28th

 

Rex's Jets Defense has never been more than average giving up points.

Giving up points is based on field position a lot of times. His offenses have notoriously sucked and heavy on turnovers...which is his fault. 

 

Rex isn't or hasn't been a good Head Coach. Most sane people agree. But to deny he has a skillset coaching defenses is silly. 

[Warfish]

Jets fans crack me up.

 

Rex fans crack me up.

 

Hey, if he's as amazing as you think, he'll be Atlanta's Head Coach...what, tonight?  Tomorrow?

 

If he is THAT good, that sure a thing (top 10 D stud every year), why wouldn't a team with a "decent GM and franchise QB" not want a sure Super Bowl win under Ryan?

 

Where is the reporting that the Falcons are putting the hard press on Rex, with a above-average salary long-term deal to lead their team to the promised land?

[Jetsfan80]

Ok, enlighten me , what exactly did Rex do in 2009-2010 to help us make the playoffs. What were the briliant moves he made that alowed the team to win more games .

 

Nothing below will seem especially "brilliant" because I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but I think the fact that a terrible defense in 2008 turned into the top D in the league in 2009 is no accident.  However, I'll give it a go in regards to specifics:

 

 

1.  Preferred a run-first offense, which was smart given our terrible young QB and beastly offensive line.  Nothing brilliant about that, but Schottenheimer is NOT a run-first guy.

 

2.  Whooped a talented Texans D in our opener thanks to a pretty awesome gameplan.  Lot's of A-gap blitzes that forced Schaub into one of his worst games as a pro.  Granted, it proved very easy to disrupt Schaub in later years, but at the time, he was seen as a decent QB in Kubiak's scheme.

 

3.  Placed that phone message to Jets season ticket holders prior to the Pats game, and the fans responded in kind with one of the loudest games in recent memory. 

 

4.  We know what happened in the 2009 playoffs.  Totally confused Carson Palmer and Phillip Rivers.

 

5.  Beat the Pats again in Week 2 of the 2010 season.  Held them scoreless in the 2nd half of that game.

 

6.  That 2010 team was basically the best Jets team since 1998.  Despite losing QB of the defense Jim Leonhard late in the season Rex drew up perfect gameplans against the Colts and Pats in the playoffs.

 

 

Again, Rex deserved to get fired.  But pretending he didn't make an immediate positive impact early on in his career here is revisionist history.

[jmat321]

If I was Rex, first choice would be the Atlanta job.  If I wasn't picked, straight to TV, wouldn't even consider the other jobs.  You think Jay Cutler is going to be OK handing off 30 times a game?  You stay home collect 4 million from Woody Johnson, upload videos of you and your wife to pornhub, go to your son's games, Sunday/Monday in the TV studio and repeat.

[HessStation]

2014: , 24th PPG, 30th 3rd %,   

 

Teams don't need to run up the score and thus yardage against Rex ran teams. Teams didn't need to score much against the Jets. I believe the Ravens were a low scoring team when Rex was there as DC too.

 

Also check the D rosters he's had over the years, particularly with the ravens. When you have hall of fame/pro bowl players it's a lot easier to be a "master mind".

 

Shrugs* Same can be said for any coach at any time. The biggest piece of analytical data people tend to use when ranking defenses is 'Total Defense'. My God, just accept that the guy can coach defense but can't coach an entire organization unless it's already in place with strong leadership through the FO. You guys sound ridiculous sh*tting on Rex's defensive coaching. 

[Jetsfan80]

They lost their best player on D for the season in 2012.  A slight slip in rankings was going to happen. 

 

Cromartie was one of the best CB's in the NFL that year.  I think the decline was going to start happening in 2012 even if Revis stays healthy.  Tannenbaum's financial decisions started a downward spiral of attrition that we couldn't recover from in '13 and '14.

 

Point is Rex shouldn't have required Revis in order to make the D work.  Eventually we were going to lose pieces.  Rex needed to find a way to make it work and he didn't.  Tannenbaum and Idzik also sucking at their jobs doesn't change this.

[HessStation]

Rex fans crack me up.

 

Hey, if he's as amazing as you think, he'll be Atlanta's Head Coach...what, tonight?  Tomorrow?

 

If he is THAT good, that sure a thing (top 10 D stud every year), why wouldn't a team with a "decent GM and franchise QB" not want a sure Super Bowl win under Ryan?

 

Where is the reporting that the Falcons are putting the hard press on Rex, with a above-average salary long-term deal to lead their team to the promised land?

It's a shame people feel the need to fit on either side. 

[Jetsfan80]

Shrugs* Same can be said for any coach at any time. The biggest piece of analytical data people tend to use when ranking defenses is 'Total Defense'. My God, just accept that the guy can coach defense but can't coach an entire organization unless it's already in place with strong leadership through the FO. You guys sound ridiculous sh*tting on Rex's defensive coaching. 

 

Bingo.  There's a massive difference between running a defense and being, essentially, the Chief Operating Officer of an NFL team.  Plenty of people around the league are great at coaching one unit (SEE:  Lebeau, Dick) without having the ability to be a great Head Coach. 

 

It's the Peter Principle at work.  The Ravens saw it which is why he never was able to become their HC.  Rex was good for us for a while because we were a franchise in desperate need of something to get excited about.  But eventually expectations heightened and Rex's weaknesses were exposed.  It happens.

[HessStation]

If I was Rex, first choice would be the Atlanta job.  If I wasn't picked, straight to TV, wouldn't even consider the other jobs.  You think Jay Cutler is going to be OK handing off 30 times a game?  You stay home collect 4 million from Woody Johnson, upload videos of you and your wife to pornhub, go to your son's games, Sunday/Monday in the TV studio and repeat.

Totally agree. 

[The Troll]

Hey, Rex apologists, I'm very familiar with your excuses for 2012 (Injured Revis, Tebow) and 13-14 (John Idzik aka Beelzebub aka Lucifer aka GM Rich Kotite), but I haven't caught the excuse for 2011 yet. Remember, the year we were Super Bowl favorites and then completely rolled over during the stretch run? Oh wait, nevermind. I think the excuse was that we had a receiver that was a butthole.

[HessStation]

This thread is going to get even more awesome when Rex takes a TV job and everyone is like "pff he never wanted a HC job anyway GO REX"

I genuinely would love to see him get a HC job somewhere...anywhere. Would make this board a transgillion times more fun to read next year. 

[bitonti]

Hey, Rex apologists, I'm very familiar with your excuses for 2012 (Injured Revis, Tebow) and 13-14 (John Idzik aka Beelzebub aka Lucifer aka GM Rich Kotite), but I haven't caught the excuse for 2011 yet. Remember, the year we were Super Bowl favorites and then completely rolled over during the stretch run? Oh wait, nevermind. I think the excuse was that we had a receiver that was a butthole.

 

the best QB Rex Ryan had since he got the job was Mike Vick. 

[dbatesman]

I genuinely would love to see him get a HC job somewhere...anywhere. Would make this board a transgillion times more fun to read next year.

Agreed

[roscoeword]

We all saw what Mark Sanchez did for the board in his new job; Rex would have this board bopping a transgillion times more.

[The Troll]

the best QB Rex Ryan had since he got the job was Mike Vick.

He got a f*cking tattoo of his wife wearing a Mark Sanchez jersey. I don't think he was clamoring for a better QB.

[#27TheDominator]

I genuinely would love to see him get a HC job somewhere...anywhere. Would make this board a transgillion times more fun to read next year. 

 

If that is what we are going for, why not Miami? Philbin can't be that secure, can he?

 

the best QB Rex Ryan had since he got the job was Mike Vick. 

 

Not Garrard?

[JustInFudge]

Rex fans crack me up.

 

Hey, if he's as amazing as you think, he'll be Atlanta's Head Coach...what, tonight?  Tomorrow?

 

If he is THAT good, that sure a thing (top 10 D stud every year), why wouldn't a team with a "decent GM and franchise QB" not want a sure Super Bowl win under Ryan?

 

Where is the reporting that the Falcons are putting the hard press on Rex, with a above-average salary long-term deal to lead their team to the promised land?

 

Rex fans.  lol

 

And I dont have the answer to your questions, other than its been 24 hours.  Maybe it takes some time?  Idk

 

Cromartie was one of the best CB's in the NFL that year.  I think the decline was going to start happening in 2012 even if Revis stays healthy.  Tannenbaum's financial decisions started a downward spiral of attrition that we couldn't recover from in '13 and '14.

 

Point is Rex shouldn't have required Revis in order to make the D work.  Eventually we were going to lose pieces.  Rex needed to find a way to make it work and he didn't.  Tannenbaum and Idzik also sucking at their jobs doesn't change this.

 

The decline was going to happen even if the best corner in Football stayed healthy? Okayyyyy, yeah, that's logical.  lol

 

He didnt require Revis to make the D work.  They still had the 2nd best pass defense in the league. 

[joewilly12]

Rex Ryan failed here like many others no reason to personally attack the the guy or his family grow the **** up!

[Kevin L]

Hey, Rex apologists, I'm very familiar with your excuses for 2012 (Injured Revis, Tebow) and 13-14 (John Idzik aka Beelzebub aka Lucifer aka GM Rich Kotite), but I haven't caught the excuse for 2011 yet. Remember, the year we were Super Bowl favorites and then completely rolled over during the stretch run? Oh wait, nevermind. I think the excuse was that we had a receiver that was a butthole.

Not a Rex apologist, but to be fair they went 3-5 down the stretch in part because Sanchez had 14 turnovers in those 8 games. Only 1 loss you can really point to the D (blowout loss to Philly).

[PatriotReign37]

He's had a top 10 Total Defense except last year when they finished 11th. Watching every Jets game you can see where special teams and the offense really let the team down in terms of points allowed and field position. The man can coach defense which is obvious given the respect he gets throughout the league even though he can barely complete grammatical sentences and probably never even knew what Sanchez or Geno's second reads were.

Belichick really didn't succeed until he brought Charlie Weis in. Andy Reid is an offensive HC, Sutton and Jim Johnson ran his defenses. Jim Harbaugh is an offensive HC, but he had good defenses in SF because he found good assistants.

Rex needs to find that good assistant for his offense because 1 person cannot do it all.

[CrazyCarl40]

the best QB Rex Ryan had since he got the job was Mike Vick. 

 

Come on Bit, that's not even remotely true. The shell of a QB that Mike Vick was this season was not the best QB Ryan ever had.

[The Troll]

Not a Rex apologist, but to be fair they went 3-5 down the stretch in part because Sanchez had 14 turnovers in those 8 games. Only 1 loss you can really point to the D (blowout loss to Philly).

Nope, can't blame the defense in the Giants game for allowing 100 yard touchdown passes or refusing to tackle Ahmad Bradshaw.

[56mehl56]

Limited for sure. Ain't got a clue. The Jets were head coached by TWO guys on game day. Rex on the defensive headset and MM on the other. The media are the ONLY ones who think Rex is a good coach. Good motivator - AT TIMES - let's not forget how many times the Jets looked terrible and got their asses handed to them by 30 points or more. Buffalo anyone?

I was in my car during lunch today and was listening to ESPN NY , Rothenberg and Damien Woody were the hosts. Woody raved about what a great HC Rex was to play for and how respected he was etc....  Then Rothenburg asked him if you were Rex what would you do this year - Woody said Rex should go do TV and spend the year learning offense from whomever he could get to teach him.  That's from an offensive player who loved Rex.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

Rex fans crack me up.

Hey, if he's as amazing as you think, he'll be Atlanta's Head Coach...what, tonight? Tomorrow?

If he is THAT good, that sure a thing (top 10 D stud every year), why wouldn't a team with a "decent GM and franchise QB" not want a sure Super Bowl win under Ryan?

Where is the reporting that the Falcons are putting the hard press on Rex, with a above-average salary long-term deal to lead their team to the promised land?

The funny thing is that even if you could actually guarantee Dmitroff that Super Bowl I'm not a hundred percent sure he'd do it.

[Jetsfan80]

He didnt require Revis to make the D work.  They still had the 2nd best pass defense in the league. 

 

Right, yet the D overall finished 9th that year, 4 spots lower than any of the previous 3 years.  Like I said, the decline was gonna happen with or without Revis.  And that's on Tannenbaum, Idzik, AND Rex. 

[sg3]

Rex Ryan failed here like many others no reason to personally attack the the guy or his family grow the **** up!

I agree...but we definitely should post his home address, phone number and home burglar alarm pass code right here at JN so posters and fans can send personal notes, packages, make calls and pay visits...

Or was that just the owner and GM??

[CTM]

No QB gets you to the promised land with a sh*tty HC.

 

lol, ya right

[56mehl56]

And no HC gets you to the promised land with a sh*ty QB..

while (1) 

do

 

The old infinite loop.

[Kevin L]

Nope, can't blame the defense in the Giants game for allowing 100 yard touchdown passes or refusing to tackle Ahmad Bradshaw.

oh that game where Sanchez was sacked 5 times and had 3 turnovers?

[JustInFudge]

Shrugs* Same can be said for any coach at any time. The biggest piece of analytical data people tend to use when ranking defenses is 'Total Defense'. My God, just accept that the guy can coach defense but can't coach an entire organization unless it's already in place with strong leadership through the FO. You guys sound ridiculous sh*tting on Rex's defensive coaching. 

 

 

It's a shame people feel the need to fit on either side. 

 

Its pretty hilarious really.  This need to make him out to be the worst coach the world has ever known is ridiculous.  He was good, not great. With the right pieces, he was great.  Its pretty much the tale of every single coach in the history of sports.

 

And you cant defend him or say you'll miss him or claim you enjoyed his tenure or like anything about him.  No no no.  Then, you're not a Jets fan. You're a Rex fan.  Or a Rexpologist.  Or whatever.  Instead of just being someone who isnt so jaded that they dont feel the need to tear him down on his way out.

 

Its like I need to be sorry for enjoying what he brought to the team, thinking he's a good coach and has a special talent on defense.  That is just unacceptable.  Nope.  He sucks.  End of story.  lol

[vincenzo69]

Come on Bit, that's not even remotely true. The shell of a QB that Mike Vick was this season was not the best QB Ryan ever had.

Tim Tebow was the best qb. Rex didn't use him because he hated America

[JustInFudge]

Right, yet the D overall finished 9th that year, 4 spots lower than any of the previous 3 years.  Like I said, the decline was gonna happen with or without Revis.  And that's on Tannenbaum, Idzik, AND Rex. 

 

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