Villain The Foe Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why are we looking for the HC before the GM? Shouldn't we be looking for the General Manager and let that guy find (with the support of whomever Woody decides to support) the HC? Is this even normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Unless you're hiring a Head Coach who will be higher on the Org Chart than the GM, i.e. a Parcells/Bellichek/Holmgren type of Veteran "Wants Control" Coach, then no, it's not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Woody said he'd hire the head coach while taking the advice of the new GM. This is mostly preparation because a lot of these guys will be inaccessible once the playoffs start. But, it is kind of stupid but it's the Jets. They've been finding new ways to define stupid for decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I thought this way too...but I dont see the harm in an initial interview and then once the GM is hired have that HC candidate interview again with the GM. Now, if there is actually a Head Coach hired prior to the GM, then I say we start a - Sell the team Woody you ******* moron.com site with a billboard on his front lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why are we looking for the HC before the GM? We're not. We're knocking out preliminary interviews with HC candidates now so the GM can move quickly once he's in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why are we looking for the HC before the GM? Shouldn't we be looking for the General Manager and let that guy find (with the support of whomever Woody decides to support) the HC? Is this even normal? There is a window during the playoffs where we can do some preliminary interviewing. I may be wrong, but it looks as though we're interviewing both coach and GM candidates in that window. My guess is that after we've hired a GM, we may do follow-up interviews. It makes perfect sense to me that Woody, Wolf and Casserly do prelims just to assess the overall candidate pool and frame some of their hiring parameters. In other words, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Other than Reich all of the candidates are in the playoffs. So it seems to me the "search team" is trying to get access to them before their teams restrict them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 We're not. We're knocking out preliminary interviews with HC candidates now so the GM can move quickly once he's in place. But then the GM is only taking the perspective of guys who gave the interview and not off of what he felt during the interview? Then again the GM could always call from a 2nd interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 There is a window during the playoffs where we can do some preliminary interviewing. I may be wrong, but it looks as though we're interviewing both coach and GM candidates in that window. My guess is that after we've hired a GM, we may do follow-up interviews. It makes perfect sense to me that Woody, Wolf and Casserly do prelims just to assess the overall candidate pool and frame some of their hiring parameters. In other words, it's you. I just posted the same thing in another thread. I don't have a problem with it as long as these interviews become recommendations for the new GM - who'll probably come to the job with his own short list of head coaching candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 We're not. We're knocking out preliminary interviews with HC candidates now so the GM can move quickly once he's in place. There is a window during the playoffs where we can do some preliminary interviewing. I may be wrong, but it looks as though we're interviewing both coach and GM candidates in that window. My guess is that after we've hired a GM, we may do follow-up interviews. It makes perfect sense to me that Woody, Wolf and Casserly do prelims just to assess the overall candidate pool and frame some of their hiring parameters. In other words, it's you. lol You guys cleared it up for me. Im glad to know that I'm an arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 But then the GM is only taking the perspective of guys who gave the interview and not off of what he felt during the interview? Then again the GM could always call from a 2nd interview. Thats exactly what will happen and what I said. The GM will have a final interview. Stop ignoring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thats exactly what will happen and what I said. The GM will have a final interview. Stop ignoring me. lol Im sorry JiF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Woody's working on a 50 year shared-coaching deal with the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 lol Im sorry JiF. I forgive you....this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 This would be a good time to get the Rooney rule taken care of so we can hire whomever we wish, despite race, and move quickly. I'm OK with this.... sift out the chaff for the new GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Woody said he'd hire the head coach while taking the advice of the new GM. This is mostly preparation because a lot of these guys will be inaccessible once the playoffs start. But, it is kind of stupid but it's the Jets. They've been finding new ways to define stupid for decades now. Im sure Casserly and Wolf know exactly what they are doing ... people assume way to much on this site. Clam down they are just doing preliminary interviews to get the Jets name in the hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 We should hire a gm first then wait another 2-3 months to hire a head coach. Basically guarantee us the worst candidate because all the good HC candidates will be gone by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Im sure Casserly and Wolf know exactly what they are doing ... people assume way to much on this site. Clam down they are just doing preliminary interviews to get the Jets name in the hat They should hire Wolf's son that way they get af Wolf pack for the price of one..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Anything beats Rex interviewing GMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 They should hire Wolf's son that way they get af Wolf pack for the price of one..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 one thing is certain--woody will squander the early advantage of being among the first to fire GM/HC by dithering until the top tier candidates are off the board. from his presser yesterday it sounds like he needs to get input from his shoeshine boy before making a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ready.... fire..... AIM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 one thing is certain--woody will squander the early advantage of being among the first to fire GM/HC by dithering until the top tier candidates are off the board. from his presser yesterday it sounds like he needs to get input from his shoeshine boy before making a move. You're right, we should'a hired Cowher like, yestda'day, right, yoose guys know Cowher, or mebbi Grudan, would be great, why da hell can't Woody hire them! We're so tarrible. I'll take your comments off the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Borderline stupid and borderline overkill. Out of all of this wrangling and painful thought process of who is the best guy, the Jets will end up with a GM who like most GMs will have around a 30 - 40% success draft rate. The key will be the coach. If Idzik was still GM - it would have been Idzik and Quinn bet on it. The Jets could have done alot worse and to be honest I don't think they are going to do much better after this braintrust process. we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 This would be a good time to get the Rooney rule taken care of so we can hire whomever we wish, despite race, and move quickly. I'm OK with this.... sift out the chaff for the new GM People make such a big deal about the Rooney rule. It only requires an interview. Jesus Mary and Joseph the world is screwed because Cassrly has to give one black guy an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 People make such a big deal about the Rooney rule. It only requires an interview. Jesus Mary and Joseph the world is screwed because Cassrly has to give one black guy an interview So when we hired Herm we only fulfilled half of the Rooney rule?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 You're right, we should'a hired Cowher like, yestda'day, right, yoose guys know Cowher, or mebbi Grudan, would be great, why da hell can't Woody hire them! We're so tarrible. I'll take your comments off the air. well im from North Carolina so it would be more like "hey ya'll reckon woody should've saddled up ol' cowher for one last rodeo? that old boy woody will be later than a polecat to a muleskinnin' and we will get bamboozled and left holdin' a pig in a poke come the new year." then i'd probably fire two six shooters in the air and do a side to side high step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ready.... fire..... AIM!!! LOL! Classic Jet S.O.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So when we hired Herm we only fulfilled half of the Rooney rule?? Herm Edwards is Italian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So when we hired Herm we only fulfilled half of the Rooney rule?? I prefer to fulfill the mickey rooney rule and hire a song and dance man to be the next HC of the NYJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 So Im hearing all of this info about Marrone yet Im not hearing anything about our possible GM. Im really not sure if this is a situation where the Jets are just keeping that GM search under wraps or if they are in fact looking for a coach first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Last time I checked we're looking for BOTH, we've been interviewing BOTH. You can't just say "oh, let's go find a GM first" and then watch the rest of the league go after the best HC's out there. Who are you going to be left with in the end? Mangini? Rex? Woody is doing the right thing. Get interviews lined up with all the best HC's and GM's that are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Im really not sure if this is a situation where the Jets are just keeping that GM search under wraps or if they are in fact looking for a coach first. Well, considering the quality of hard-hitting journalism that we've come to expect from the beat guys and twitter, there's no way it could be the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Borderline stupid and borderline overkill. Out of all of this wrangling and painful thought process of who is the best guy, the Jets will end up with a GM who like most GMs will have around a 30 - 40% success draft rate. The key will be the coach. If Idzik was still GM - it would have been Idzik and Quinn bet on it. The Jets could have done alot worse and to be honest I don't think they are going to do much better after this braintrust process. we shall see. We had to get Idzik off the premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 With the restrictions the NFL has put in place on when you can talk to HC candidates, the Jets HAVE to interview both at the same time. If you only spoke to GM candidates right now it's possible you wouldn't be able to talk to someone like Quinn until late January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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