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If we can get a quality HC in here, it'll attract a better-caliber GM.  It's not unheard of to hire the HC first when the opportunity presents itself.  It certainly worked out well for the Seahawks.

 

No matter what we have to be at least interviewing both HC's AND GM's right now simultaneously.  That way whenever our GM is chosen he'll have all the information he needs on some of the top HC prospects, and can then proceed with 2nd interviews.

 

Agree with interviewing both, but not with hiring a HC before hiring a GM. And those potential HC interviews should be completely preliminary, with the understanding that a new interview with the GM present will be needed before any offers are made. 

 

Don't see how hiring a HC before the GM helps in any way in getting a GM. If the GM understands that no HC will be hired without the GM's approval, there should be no way that lacking a HC would inhibit anyone from accepting a GM position.

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@MarkMaske: Mike Maccagnan, Texans' director of college scouting, will interview for Jets' GM job, source says. Considered strong candidate there.

Good

He and Mueller already have a strong relationship with Marrone

The plot thickens

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A coach's job is to win football games, not have coffee or beers with the beat writers. Manish Mehta LOVED Rex Ryan. But it didn't do a damn thing for Ryan's win/loss record.It's certainly more pleasant for the beat writers if the coach pals around with them, but it does nothing for the coach. he will be judged on wins and losses.

I have no idea if Marrone can do a better job, but there are a lot of encouraging things. And how he treats the media, Woody and is marketing nonsense be damned, isn't very important.

As to failing, his teams in Syracuse and Buffalo got better. And he did a pretty good job with the OL here under Edwards. And unlike Ryan he is a stickler for detail. The margin for error in the NFL, especially when you do not have superior QB, is nothing. Not squaring away the little things- timeouts, 12 men on the field, 3rd down passes short of the stick, stupid all out blitzes, holding players responsible-is in large part why Ryan is an ex-coach.

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Can't really judge David Carr. Got stuck behind one of the worst OL's in history. Got sacked all the time

 

He was cut by five teams.

 

"Carr was considered to be one of the biggest quarterback busts in NFL history since 1980, and was ranked 10th on Fox Sports' list of worst No. 1 overall picks in NFL Draft history."

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Wait, so people are POSITIVE Marrone (not GM, Doug Whaley) selected Manuel, YET, Rex Ryan had nothing to do, or any notion along the drafting of Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

This stuff writes itself like silk.

EDIT-Just readt that it was Buddy Nix who was GM when Manual was picked-my bad-But the premise holds

rex clearly had man crust for Sanchez... Geno .. no

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Thankfully "our team" is in SEA this weekend interviewing Kirchner and Quinn.  So no matter

how many stories about Marrone crop up he is just another candidate we will interview

I hope Quinn aces his interview----and wants to come here.  I do not like Charlie Casserly.

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I sat next to Cimini on a flight once after the Bills game in Detroit. Saw him write an article. He kept writing stuff and then deleting it and then writing other stuff that was more, let's say, flammable. That's what he's paid to do, I guess.

You've had personal contact with a disturbing number of Jets beat writers.

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Heard he's a Bronx boy.

Will take no bullish*t.

Comes from the Coughlin school of coaching.

 

That is nice and dandy when you win. Look at the history of coaches with that kind style.  If you don’t win under that system, it will be painful to watch, players will be encouraged to quit (Perfect example recently was Gregg Schiano) You become a prick when you are not winning and treating players like sh*t.  When Coughlin was not winning at the beginning of his term with Giants they were rumor of players quitting on him and he had to change his style becoming more lenient with his players.

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Thankfully "our team" is in SEA this weekend interviewing Kirchner and Quinn.  So no matter

how many stories about Marrone crop up he is just another candidate we will interview

Agreed.  It's coming down to what package we're going to hire.  Kirchner/Quinn, or Mccagnon/Marrone.  Not sure who Bowles, Cable, Mora, Reich would be tied to.  Woody said he wants the GM/HC to be on the same page, it certainly seems to be coming together that way. 

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So at least they are lining up GM/HC pairings that will be on the same page as shown below:

 

From SEA: Kirchner and Quinn

 

From TEXANS: Maccagnan and either Kubiak or Marrone (As article say Marrone also is familiar with Maccagnan from the London team)

 

From: PACKERS: Wolf and Bowles or who knows if Holmgren would pop in the mix.

 

After I read today on various Eagles articles between Kelly and the FO there has been friction and even for a team there with many good/great players we see how it derails playoff bids. Talent is important, but without a GM/HC pair that are on the same page it won't matter how good the talent is, you probablky miss the playoffs more often that not. Teams like the Saints, Falcons, Bears, Chargers, etc. all have plenty good QBs and talent but none made the playoffs many of which have friction/tension issues throughout the Organizations, i.e. Saints with Peyton/Ryan never on the same page, Bears whole FO a mess and gone with the worst contract in history now stuck with Cutler, the Falcons with Smith staying on as HC for countless years when he should have been replaced long ago, etc.

 

With all this said, we know these Organizations like NE, Pitt, GB, Denver, Ravens, etc. keep making deep playoff runs and are consistently making the playoffs have FO/HCs on the same page, which is why they have the proper talent to continue to make those runs along with being well coaches. If we can get that and we need to get that it is definitely the first step in establishing the path we need. Sure the QB is very important but we need the FO/HC to pick and coach up the necessary QB we need to move forward. Lets take these steps and it all starts now with a new good year 2015. Lets do this all and support our Jets with a positive mentality since it appears our owner and consultants he hired look to be setting up the the proper structure we need to be successful.    

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