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Many top analysts are applauding the JETS looking at marrone.  Just think..he cant be added to your "Rookie HC" list. :)

Now that makes me feel better for sure, the fact that he's not a rookie.

But he appears to be the Darrelle Revis of coaches, collecting NCAA and NFL paychecks at a rapid pace, not sticking anywhere long enough to be judged.

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That's not the point.  The point is that he took EJ Manuel -- a guy who was graded as a third rounder -- with a first round pick.  It was terrible.

he picked the best QB in that draft because he had no other choice for a team that did not have a QB unlike the Jets who had a choice and instead of drafting play makers and being patient they rolled the dice on Geno the slinger Smith.

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That's not the point.  The point is that he took EJ Manuel -- a guy who was graded as a third rounder -- with a first round pick.  It was terrible.

Wait, so people are POSITIVE Marrone (not GM, Doug Whaley) selected Manuel, YET, Rex Ryan had nothing to do, or any notion along the drafting of Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

 

This stuff writes itself like silk.

 

EDIT-Just readt that it was Buddy Nix who was GM when Manual was picked-my bad-But the premise holds

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Yeah, right.  And his own college coach -- the guy who knew him the best --  told teams that he didn't have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL.  And Marrone the fool still took him in the first.

 

The Jets have this really awesome QB who was graded by some, at one point the best player in the draft. Would you be interested in him?

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he picked the best QB in that draft because he had no other choice for a team that did not have a QB unlike the Jets who had a choice and instead of drafting play makers and being patient they rolled the dice on Geno the slinger Smith.

 

And then the trade up for Sammy Watkins when they could have just taken Odell Beckham?  Another moronic move.

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Wait, so people are POSITIVE Marrone (not GM, Doug Whaley) selected Manuel, YET, Rex Ryan had nothing to do, or any notion along the drafting of Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

 

This stuff writes itself like silk.

 

Rex DID want Sanchez.  Rex was not responsible for Tim Tebow or Geno Smith.  Marrone did want EJ Manuel.  What's so hard to understand about that?

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I don't get the Marrone boner either.

 

Woody said he wants to get it right this time. 

 

I expect a dramatic upgrade, not a trade of one problem for another.

 

Besides, Marrone is too easy a name for sg3 to butcher. So is Bowles.

From reading the experts this morning it seems that Marrone is highly thought of in NFL circles, he's potentially the second-coming of Tom Coughlin, he's a disciplinarian who doesn't coach sloppy, he's not loose with the media, he's respected, he runs a tight ship.

So from that standpoint he's clearly the anti-Rex which is a great thing. I'm troubled that he doesn't stick around in one place for more than 24 months, but at least he's cut his rookie teeth elsewhere and had some success. Might be okay if we tapped him.

SAR I

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Look, anything's better than Rex Ryan but can we interview a few candidates before jumping over a guy who never had a winning record and dumped both Syracuse and Buffalo twice in two years?

I hope so.

SAR I

OK. lets take our time on this.  Meself, like Mr. Sar,  never liked Rex Ryan;  who got hyped by the NY tabloid media because he was funny and different, and a change from

 the dour Mangini.    Anyway , a guy whose been a HC has some points  over a DC.    Mostly, we seem to be looking at Coordinators.  You never know how they will pan out.

 Even a Dan Quinn may not be up to the task of managing the whole enchilada in NY/NJ.    Hey, Doug Marrone got 9 wins with no QB.  Killed the Jets in 2 games. 

 That's not such a bad record.      And HE PASSED ON DRAFTING GENO..........  INTERESTING.

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The Jets have this really awesome QB who was graded by some, at one point the best player in the draft. Would you be interested in him?

 

Geno was a good pick where he was picked.  It didn't work out.  Taking EJ Manuel in the first was stupid, no matter how much you want to argue otherwise.

 

Do you not understand that taking a third round talent, whose own college coach said he was not a starter in the NFL, is really an idiotic move?

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marone is just a Jag, I wouldn't call him awful...but he did have major input in selecting EJ at 16. Marone is the type of hire Woody loves to make though...he will come cheap!!!

And perhaps Kyle Orton will follow him for another season, he's not under contract to anyone.

I'd be fine with an Orton/Sanchez QB situation, Marrone/Schwartz coaching situation, Casserly/Wolf GM situation. That's not great but its a hell of a lot better than where we just were.

SAR I

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Geno was a good pick where he was picked.  It didn't work out.  Taking EJ Manuel in the first was stupid, no matter how much you want to argue otherwise.

 

Do you not understand that taking a third round talent, whose own college coach said he was not a starter in the NFL, is really an idiotic move?

 

Like Pete Carroll saying Sanchez wasn't ready yet Rex saying during MS pro day "that's our guy"

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Like Pete Carroll saying Sanchez wasn't ready yet Rex saying during MS pro day "that's our guy"

 

Sanchez was still graded as a first rounder.  No one was surprised that Sanchez went that high.  He had talent.

 

EJ Manuel was graded as a third rounder and his own college coach threw him under the bus.  

 

 

EJ Manuel was a WTF pick.  Sanchez was not.  The two situations are different.

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From reading the experts this morning it seems that Marrone is highly thought of in NFL circles, he's potentially the second-coming of Tom Coughlin, he's a disciplinarian who doesn't coach sloppy, he's not loose with the media, he's respected, he runs a tight ship.

So from that standpoint he's clearly the anti-Rex which is a great thing. I'm troubled that he doesn't stick around in one place for more than 24 months, but at least he's cut his rookie teeth elsewhere and had some success. Might be okay if we tapped him.

SAR I

 

He obviously can't evaluate and develop QBs.  We already been there, done that. 

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OK. lets take our time on this.  Meself, like Mr. Sar,  never liked Rex Ryan;  who got hyped by the NY tabloid media because he was funny and different, and a change from

 the dour Mangini.    Anyway , a guy whose been a HC has some points  over a DC.    Mostly, we seem to be looking at Coordinators.  You never know how they will pan out.

 Even a Dan Quinn may not be up to the task of managing the whole enchilada in NY/NJ.    Hey, Doug Marrone got 9 wins with no QB.  Killed the Jets in 2 games. 

 That's not such a bad record.      And HE PASSED ON DRAFTING GENO..........  INTERESTING.

Very good points, if Marrone's offense could crush Rex Ryan's Best Defense Ever Seen In World History 3 times in 2 years, perhaps we're looking at the second-coming of Bill Walsh here. And if he passed on Geno, that means Geno will be sh-tcanned which is a great thing too.

Feeling better about Dougie this morning. I have a couple of Bills fan co-workers who are just beside themselves, they want Marrone dead and they want Ryan as 'revenge' on the Jets. Ha ha ha. Christmas just keeps on coming if that happens.

SAR I

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Sanchez was still graded as a first rounder.  No one was surprised that Sanchez went that high.  He had talent.

 

EJ Manuel was graded as a third rounder and his own college coach threw him under the bus.  

 

 

EJ Manuel was a WTF pick.  Sanchez was not.  The two situations are different.

The Bills are a lot closer to playoffs\superbowl than the jets - pains me to say

 

They are a QB and healthy RB away - what else to they need to compete?

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Very good points, if Marrone's offense could crush Rex Ryan's Best Defense Ever Seen In World History 3 times in 2 years, perhaps we're looking at the second-coming of Bill Walsh here. And if he passed on Geno, that means Geno will be sh-tcanned which is a great thing too.

Feeling better about Dougie this morning. I have a couple of Bills fan co-workers who are just beside themselves, they want Marrone dead and they want Ryan as 'revenge' on the Jets. Ha ha ha. Christmas just keeps on coming if that happens.

SAR I

Felt the same way. At first, I couidnt understand the Marrone fascination, then I got a few texts from a Bills/SU fan saying he's the anti-Rex (which I was pumped about). His teams butchered Rex, they play the Pats close (which, according to Rex fans, is the true mark of greatness), and he's all business. He'd come here and humiliate Mehta on a daily basis. There will be no tattoos of bad QBs, no Santonio Holmes mutinies, he'll destroy malcontents, and he might put Woody in his place. All good things, imo, especially if he comes in a package deal with one of the big GM prospects who are rumored to like Marrone.

Also, as an aside, as perfect as that Buffalo situation would be for Rex (he could bring his whole posse of enablers!) he hasn't even been rumored to get a sniff of that job yet.

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Too bad the Bills were and still are paying Doug Whaley big bucks to be their GM and make draft selections when along according to detectiveherculepoirot here at JN, he didn't do anything and told his rookie HC to handle all that unimportant draft stuff..

Sammy Watkins, another awful mistake...especally at MetLife when he thrashed the vaunted Rex defense for about 2000 yards and 16 touchdowns,.or so it seemed to those of us who had to pay to watch it

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Taking EJ Manuel in the first was stupid, no matter how much you want to argue otherwise.

 

Do you not understand that taking a third round talent, whose own college coach said he was not a starter in the NFL, is really an idiotic move?

 

Both EJ Manuel and Geno are bums.  We all know this already. Let's move on.

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Sanchez was still graded as a first rounder.  No one was surprised that Sanchez went that high.  He had talent.

 

EJ Manuel was graded as a third rounder and his own college coach threw him under the bus.  

 

 

EJ Manuel was a WTF pick.  Sanchez was not.  The two situations are different.

 

OK...Altho Brandt had him #27 & Mayock #41

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000162920/article/hot-100-25-luke-joeckel-ziggy-ansah-still-top-2013-draft-class

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000161676/article/2013-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects

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And perhaps Kyle Orton will follow him for another season, he's not under contract to anyone.

I'd be fine with an Orton/Sanchez QB situation, Marrone/Schwartz coaching situation, Casserly/Wolf GM situation. That's not great but its a hell of a lot better than where we just were.

SAR I

Orton thought so much of Marrone he went to the bathroom the other day and never came back. Retired via smoke signals.

And now multiple bills players calling out Marrone via twatter.

One jet source in management even said " you get rid if rex for Doug Marrone"??

The idea of it all is about as exciting as watching a 4th grade band recital.

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Felt the same way. At first, I couidnt understand the Marrone fascination, then I got a few texts from a Bills/SU fan saying he's the anti-Rex (which I was pumped about). His teams butchered Rex, they play the Pats close (which, according to Rex fans, is the true mark of greatness), and he's all business. He'd come here and humiliate Mehta on a daily basis. There will be no tattoos of bad QBs, no Santonio Holmes mutinies, he'll destroy malcontents, and he might put Woody in his place. All good things, imo, especially if he comes in a package deal with one of the big GM prospects who are rumored to like Marrone.

Also, as an aside, as perfect as that Buffalo situation would be for Rex (he could bring his whole posse of enablers!) he hasn't even been rumored to get a sniff of that job yet.

The anti rex in that he has yet to make the playoffs let alone win a playoff game.

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This is one of the weirdest thins I have ever seen. I talked before about disconnect between the media and the fans,. Most fans don't want Marrone, but most media (national and local) want him.

 

Mehta and Myers are against him. Costello, Serby, Schein are for him. Cimini is somewhere in the middle.

 

It's very interesting.

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