C Mart Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 If you graduate with a degree in Economics, your plenty smart enough to figure out cap ramifications. If you've been involved in scouting and evaluating for nearly 20 years and haven't been fired but actually promoted through the years, you must be doing something right. Bradway being the obvious exception to that rule. If Wolf is OK with the guy, and obviously Casserly is, I'm OK with it. Who is he connected with as far as coaching candidates. Obviously Kubiac. Any others? Per LaCanfora, Marrone .Signed him to play w/the London team (think he meant OL)..... Marrone will quickly emerge as a HC candidate with the Jets. And if Maccagnan gets that GM job, Marrone's candidacy will only get stronger And with the Jets, Marrone and Maccagnan go way, way back. Maccagnan signed him to be QB of the London Monarchs in 1991. Strong bond there 7:00 PM - 31 Dec 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Per LaCanfora, Marrone .Signed him to play w/the London team (think he meant OL)..... Marrone will quickly emerge as a HC candidate with the Jets. And if Maccagnan gets that GM job, Marrone's candidacy will only get stronger And with the Jets, Marrone and Maccagnan go way, way back. Maccagnan signed him to be QB of the London Monarchs in 1991. Strong bond there 7:00 PM - 31 Dec 2014 Thanks C Mart. Who do you prefer? Kubiac or Marrone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Thanks C Mart. Who do you prefer? Kubiac or Marrone? Of those 2, Marrone...I'm not a big Kubiak guy as a HC, OC, yes...JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So apparently Wolf and Casserly think McCagnan is a viable candidate Mehta and JN poster Ebonix say he is laughable Whose opinion should we trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 So apparently Wolf and Casserly think McCagnan is a viable candidate Mehta and JN poster Ebonix say he is laughable Whose opinion should we trust? Haven't really heard anything from Casserly or Wolf, yet. We're all guessing right now. We can conclude Casserly is cool with McCagnan... I wonder what Wol's take on him is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Do you realize that the qualifiers and unique situations you are trotting out for these guys that once worked for a junk organization, but somehow went on to be successful elsewhere proves what I'm saying? That you can in fact take someone out of a bad situation and have them succeed. I get that some of you guys want yo try and tune me up, maybe start with an accurate position and understanding how examples work. They should help your argument, not mine. LMAO! Hypocrisy is the worst kind of stupid. When you're caught with your pants down as far as yours, no desperate spin attempt will save you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I thought I read Casserly requested Wolf join him? That might be his best contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Really? Since Titles seem to matter: MIKE MACCAGNAN DIRECTOR OF COLLEGE SCOUTING Mike Maccagnan coordinates all of the Texans’ college scouting efforts as the director of college scouting. In addition to evaluating college prospects, he also is involved with evaluating NFL teams and prospects in preparation for NFL free agency. One of the Texans’ first hires, Maccagnan initially joined the club as a pro scout in January 2000 before being promoted to coordinator of college scouting in April 2000. In June 2010, he was promoted to assistant director of college scouting before being elevated to his current position in July 2011. Before arriving in Houston, Maccagnan spent the previous six years as a scout for the Washington Redskins. He served as a college scout (1994) for the Redskins before becoming a pro scout in 1995, although he continued to evaluate college prospects in preparation for the NFL draft. Prior to joining Washington, Maccagnan worked for the Canadian Football League’s Ottawa Rough Riders as the club’s director of scouting and director of player personnel. In 1994, he was the director of scouting and player personnel for the CFL’s Saskatchewan Roughriders. He also was the director of player personnel for the World League’s London Monarchs when that franchise captured the league championship in 1991. In 1990, Maccagnan worked in the World League office in Dallas as a league scout. Maccagnan was a member of the NFL Stanford Program for managers in June, 2005. A native of Hightstown, N.J., Maccagnan holds a bachelor’s degree in economics from Trinity (Conn.) College. After graduating from Trinity, Maccagnan served as an intern in the scouting department for the Washington Redskins during training camp in 1990. Mike and his wife, Betty, live in Houston. http://media.houstontexans.com/images/9057/2012_Media_Guide/Football_Operations.pdf Texans director of college scouting Mike Maccagnan oversees a group of nine scouts – two national scouts, six area scouts and one scout who evaluates college and pro prospects. They started studying the 2013 draft class about three weeks after the 2012 draft, more than 11 months of player evaluations that led to nine draft picks from April 25-27. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Scouting-director-Mike-Maccagnan-reviews-2013-draft/16e0560b-38af-4470-bfff-c32515415954 Still not qualified? Still laughable, Manish? Still the question remains: how does Maccagnan's scouting resume qualify him as GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Really? Since Titles seem to matter: MIKE MACCAGNAN DIRECTOR OF COLLEGE SCOUTING Mike Maccagnan coordinates all of the Texans’ college scouting efforts as the director of college scouting. In addition to evaluating college prospects, he also is involved with evaluating NFL teams and prospects in preparation for NFL free agency. One of the Texans’ first hires, Maccagnan initially joined the club as a pro scout in January 2000 before being promoted to coordinator of college scouting in April 2000. In June 2010, he was promoted to assistant director of college scouting before being elevated to his current position in July 2011. Before arriving in Houston, Maccagnan spent the previous six years as a scout for the Washington Redskins. He served as a college scout (1994) for the Redskins before becoming a pro scout in 1995, although he continued to evaluate college prospects in preparation for the NFL draft. Prior to joining Washington, Maccagnan worked for the Canadian Football League’s Ottawa Rough Riders as the club’s director of scouting and director of player personnel. In 1994, he was the director of scouting and player personnel for the CFL’s Saskatchewan Roughriders. He also was the director of player personnel for the World League’s London Monarchs when that franchise captured the league championship in 1991. In 1990, Maccagnan worked in the World League office in Dallas as a league scout. Maccagnan was a member of the NFL Stanford Program for managers in June, 2005. A native of Hightstown, N.J., Maccagnan holds a bachelor’s degree in economics from Trinity (Conn.) College. After graduating from Trinity, Maccagnan served as an intern in the scouting department for the Washington Redskins during training camp in 1990. Mike and his wife, Betty, live in Houston. http://media.houstontexans.com/images/9057/2012_Media_Guide/Football_Operations.pdf Texans director of college scouting Mike Maccagnan oversees a group of nine scouts – two national scouts, six area scouts and one scout who evaluates college and pro prospects. They started studying the 2013 draft class about three weeks after the 2012 draft, more than 11 months of player evaluations that led to nine draft picks from April 25-27. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Scouting-director-Mike-Maccagnan-reviews-2013-draft/16e0560b-38af-4470-bfff-c32515415954 Still not qualified? Still laughable, Manish? titles do matter the guy you want from Houston is Gaine, not maccagnan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 LMAO! Hypocrisy is the worst kind of stupid. When you're caught with your pants down as far as yours, no desperate spin attempt will save you. You apparently don't know how spin works, or what hypocrisy is, but I'd wager you know a thing or two about having your pants down. Outta said that you don't hire from bad organizations, because they are filled with losers. I said his theory is wrong, as others did, and provided examples of hugely successful coaches who have had backgrounds working with bad organizations. If you applied Outta's theory, then the Colts don't hire Dungy from Tampa, and that defense never becomes good enough to help Peyton get his only ring, as an example. The only rebuttal the two of you offered is loaded with qualifiers and semantics, do you understand what those two words mean? Bellichick doesn't qualify under this theory because semantically speaking, he didn't spend his entire career working for bad organizations. This alone punches holes in the theory, and frankly makes you both look stupid for arguing it further. So, BB could have spent 1 year of his career on the staff of a SB winner, but then 20 years with sh*tty teams, and this theory wouldn't apply to him because of that 1 year. Sounds like the type of theory that is abandoned in hindsight, knowing BB turned out to be great, and any theory abandoned that quickly over semantics isn't a theory, it's a stupid idea at best. Anyway, top notch posts as usual from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Add Ryan Pace to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I wish Woody hired Wolf without Casserly. Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Add Ryan Pace to that list. Didn't hear anything on Pace. Do you have a link to that piece of news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Didn't hear anything on Pace. Do you have a link to that piece of news? Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 4h4 hours ago Per source, #Jets have requested to interview Saints Director of Player Personnel Ryan Pace for open GM position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 You apparently don't know how spin works, or what hypocrisy is, but I'd wager you know a thing or two about having your pants down. Outta said that you don't hire from bad organizations, because they are filled with losers. I said his theory is wrong, as others did, and provided examples of hugely successful coaches who have had backgrounds working with bad organizations. If you applied Outta's theory, then the Colts don't hire Dungy from Tampa, and that defense never becomes good enough to help Peyton get his only ring, as an example. The only rebuttal the two of you offered is loaded with qualifiers and semantics, do you understand what those two words mean? Bellichick doesn't qualify under this theory because semantically speaking, he didn't spend his entire career working for bad organizations. This alone punches holes in the theory, and frankly makes you both look stupid for arguing it further. So, BB could have spent 1 year of his career on the staff of a SB winner, but then 20 years with sh*tty teams, and this theory wouldn't apply to him because of that 1 year. Sounds like the type of theory that is abandoned in hindsight, knowing BB turned out to be great, and any theory abandoned that quickly over semantics isn't a theory, it's a stupid idea at best. Anyway, top notch posts as usual from you. I agree, you are the smarterest of us all. Now go have an ice cream sandwich (you earned it) and rest your ginormous brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 4h4 hours ago Per source, #Jets have requested to interview Saints Director of Player Personnel Ryan Pace for open GM position. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Still the question remains: how does Maccagnan's scouting resume qualify him as GM? well put simply. NFL teams are made up of players. You need to identify the best available players within your reach to win. Maccagnan has been evaluating players for a quarter century. Houston has the best drafting record last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 well put simply. NFL teams are made up of players. You need to identify the best available players within your reach to win. Maccagnan has been evaluating players for a quarter century. Houston has the best drafting record last few years. Thanks for your opinion that Maccagnan is a qualified scout. (rolleyes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Thanks for your opinion that Maccagnan is a qualified scout. (rolleyes) hmmm snarky being fat or snarky will get you no where in life son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I agree, you are the smarterest of us all. Now go have an ice cream sandwich (you earned it) and rest your ginormous brain. LOL ... smooth sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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