Shockwave Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 For almost 15 years the Jets have done the same thing. We hire first time coaches that specialize on the defensive side of the ball. Its looking like it may happen again and it just seems crazy to me. We have had a bottom 5 offense for years now. We have not a Franchise QB in forever. Coaches like Quinn have proved what? That they could call plays for superstars? Gus Bradley was the DC there when those guys blew up. All Doug Marrone did is bench CJ Spiller and EJ Manual and ride a defense to 9-7. Well that is exactly where Gary Kubiak fits in. He has developed middle round lineman, QB's and has developed a ton of undrafted running backs in Denver and Houston. He is the exact man we need here. He never had a good defense and thats exactly what hes walking into here. He is now available and fits perfect with our GM. This is absolutely the guy to go get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'm in favor of the Quinn hiring, but as I said last week...if healthy, I'd take Kubiak first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I have to agree that Kubiak would be a great fit here and I would be happy with the hire. With that said, Quinn is the most sought after candidate for a reason and reports have him saying that the Jets are his number one choice. Either way I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 he's the guy i'd like as well... not that Quinn to Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I was impressed with kubiak. I would be okay if he was their selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 ID prefer Kubiak over Quinn. Honestly, I would have liked a Rex/Trestman combo best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Brian Costello @BrianCoz 44m44 minutes ago Mike Maccagnan is staying in New Jersey again tonight. Slated to meet with Jets again on Sunday. Day 3. #nyj I think Maccagnan gets introduced Monday as our new GM. Lets see if they interview Kubiack during the upcoming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 he's the guy i'd like as well... not that Quinn to Quinn Yeah, I'd prefer him to Quinn. Quinn is a really conservative hire, maybe toooo conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I was impressed with kubiak. I would be okay if he was their selection. Kubiak is a good OC that doesn't make him a Great HC Flacco won a Bowl before Kubiak.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 if mac is still in town, it's a done deal he is the new GM. please let them hire him a contract guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Brian Costello @BrianCoz 44m44 minutes ago Mike Maccagnan is staying in New Jersey again tonight. Slated to meet with Jets again on Sunday. Day 3. #nyj I think Maccagnan gets introduced Monday as our new GM. Lets see if they interview Kubiack during the upcoming week. Fine, if he agrees to bring Andre Johnson with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Yeah I like the idea. Woody has never hired an offensive minded coach so maybe it's time to try something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Yeah I like the idea. Woody has never hired an offensive minded coach so maybe it's time to try something new No but Hess did with Coslet and Kotite.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak is a good OC that doesn't make him a Great HC Flacco won a Bowl before Kubiak.. Can't the same thing be said about Quinn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The devil you know or the devil you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Can't the same thing be said about Quinn? Sure but Kubiak has failed already as a HC Quinn has not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 not as HC, and he'd be nuts to leave flacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'd like them to interview Kubiak. But at the same time, the guy has had health problems and just may not be up to the demands/stress level of being a HC in NY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Pretty sure Kubiak and his family have no real desire for him to be a HC any time too soon. Might actually kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sure but Kubiak has failed already as a HC Quinn has not.. And "retreads" have gone on to win Super Bowls in their next gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 As a guy who's had a team quit on him before, he's a great for for this roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 That guy had a medical emergency on the field during a game as a HC in Houston and you guys want to bring him to NY/NJ to coach . What do you think the stress level is going to be like coaching the Jets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 That guy had a medical emergency on the field during a game as a HC in Houston and you guys want to bring him to NY/NJ to coach . What do you think the stress level is going to be like coaching the Jets ? +1 The stress of being a HC in NY isn't for everyone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And "retreads" have gone on to win Super Bowls in their next gigs. The vast majority with Hall of Fame QBs on their second stop. The majority of the recently successful retread HC were defensive guys as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak is a good OC that doesn't make him a Great HC Flacco won a Bowl before Kubiak.. Kubiak was was one of the longest tenured HCs in the league. He has developed more talent on offense then anyone available. Quinn has developed no one. He is the Adam Gase of the Defense side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 I was impressed with kubiak. I would be okay if he was their selection. Also Im sure he has strong ties to Kyle Shannahan as they have worked together and have been friends forever. Ties to our GM as well. It surely could fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak was was one of the longest tenured HCs in the league. He has developed more talent on offense then anyone available. Quinn has developed no one. He is the Adam Gase of the Defense side of the ball. So after the Texans if the teams were lining up for him why is he a OC?? Are you saying he turned down all the HC jobs to be the Ravens OC?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 No but Hess did with Coslet and Kotite.. Hess was more clueless than Woody, probably the worst NFL owner ever. Coslet was actually all Steinberg, and Kotite was hired because he was Hess buddy. Regardless, I don't remember the Jets ever being so offensively challenged when a new HC was to be hired. Maybe Kotites last year, but the Tuna was hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hess was more clueless than Woody, probably the worst NFL owner ever. Coslet was actually all Steinberg, and Kotite was hired because he was Hess buddy. Regardless, I don't remember the Jets ever being so offensively challenged when a new HC was to be hired. Maybe Kotites last year, but the Tuna was hired. Do you know who Kenny O's OC was ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak is a good OC that doesn't make him a Great HC Flacco won a Bowl before Kubiak.. Kubiak wasn't terrible as a head coach. He has had a year to think aboutvwhat he would do differently. Definitely should be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Do you know who Kenny O's OC was ?? http://www.jetnation.com/jetswiki/index.php/Kotite,_Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The vast majority with Hall of Fame QBs on their second stop. When was the last time a HC first time or not won a SB without great QB play? Whether or not you are 1st time or retread this is a must. Coughlin won a SB as recent example of having a non "all time great" QB. Carroll although technically not on his 2nd pro gig (only 1 season with Jets) won it with Wilson who I don't view as a HOF type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak wasn't terrible as a head coach. He has had a year to think aboutvwhat he would do differently. Definitely should be considered. He had 3 winning seasons in 8 years and won 2 playoff games.. Wow your right Max lets get him..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhartonJet Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Started a similar thread on another site, and I am really surprised more Jets fans don't feel this way. Kubiak is absolutely the guy you hire. I'm not sure how anyone could prefer Quinn, a DC with 2 years experience coaching the unit with the most talent in the league. He and all of the Seattle defenders readily admit and even tout the fact that the success of their defense has nothing to do with scheme, and everything to do with keeping things simple and letting the players "play fast". That's great when you have Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, etc. I believe this would be a miserable failure - another rookie HC who will be learning on the job paired with an OC whose claim to fame is one good year with Robert Griffin until the league figured out the gimmick of the read option. Kubiak has the proven pedigree (QB coach and SB in 1994 with Steve Young/Seifert, 11 years OC and 2 SB titles under Mike Shanahan, Prior Head coaching experience - won back to back division titles in 2011 (10-6) and 2012 (12-4) with Matt Schaub as QB before being fired the very next year after starting 2-11 due largely to injuries. Kubiak is the guy - go get him Woody!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Do you know who Kenny O's OC was ?? Yeah, so what? I never thought much of Kotite as an OC and was not happy when he was hired as HC. So that means all OC's suck as a HC? Don't understand your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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