predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 It may be tough to pass on him if hes there at 6. The Jetsy thing to do will be to go all-in on Mariota, watch Cardale Jones tear it up for another season in college and miss out on him when he declares the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ooof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I don't understand how you can pass on Mariota. He has plenty of arm strength which I'm sure will be in display at the combine / pro day. Most of his throws are on the run and he still slings it. The kid is a winner and needs the right system. you can't take mariota and slam him into a marty schottenheimer offense. with the right OC + QB coach this kid revolutionizes the NFL game. Meh. He doesn't throw it well enough, nor does he run fast enough to survive, imo. Poor velocity is a killer in the pros. You don't have to throw it 80 yards, but you need to be able to zip it 15 yards with some heat. I have never seen that when watching Mariota. He's also a skinny dude who wants to run it, which never works on the pro level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Jetsy thing to do will be to go all-in on Mariota, watch Cardale Jones tear it up for another season in college and miss out on him when he declares the following year. And Mariota is a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He can make throws when guys are wide open, cannot in tight windows. you don't get it. The NYJ don't have a QB and have not had one in a long, long time. You take Mariota and if he doesn't work you take another one. In this day / age of the NFL you need to keep taking QB's until you find one. Give 2015 to Matt Moore and groom Mariota for 2016. The kid is a stud. Listen to Chip Kelly talk about the kid before you make up you mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 You guys are nuts. Mariota has plenty of arm, in fact, that's one of his selling points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Meh. He doesn't throw it well enough, nor does he run fast enough to survive, imo. Poor velocity is a killer in the pros. You don't have to throw it 80 yards, but you need to be able to zip it 15 yards with some heat. I have never seen that when watching Mariota. He's also a skinny dude who wants to run it, which never works on the pro level. If he could transition and just take the yards when they are there, like Wilson does, he could be effective. Arm strength aside, what concerns me is he really does throw a lot of passes to wide receivers that are wide open. And that will not happen in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bad move Cardale. OSU turning it over again and again will cost them this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Meh. He doesn't throw it well enough, nor does he run fast enough to survive, imo. Poor velocity is a killer in the pros. You don't have to throw it 80 yards, but you need to be able to zip it 15 yards with some heat. I have never seen that when watching Mariota. He's also a skinny dude who wants to run it, which never works on the pro level. I see a 6'5 version of russell wilson when I watch this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 you don't get it. The NYJ don't have a QB and have not had one in a long, long time. You take Mariota and if he doesn't work you take another one. In this day / age of the NFL you need to keep taking QB's until you find one. Give 2015 to Matt Moore and groom Mariota for 2016. The kid is a stud. Listen to Chip Kelly talk about the kid before you make up you mind. Oh so you are bringing Chip Kelly to jets...then it makes sense...didn't know he was coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 If he could transition and just take the yards when they are there, like Wilson does, he could be effective. Arm strength aside, what concerns me is he really does throw a lot of passes to wide receivers that are wide open. And that will not happen in the NFL. System QB. Not a bad thing if we can tailor the offense to his strengths. NFL coaches aren't very flexible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I see a 6'5 version of russell wilson when I watch this kid. Oh my I guess badway will bang on another table on draftday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh so you are bringing Chip Kelly to jets...then it makes sense...didn't know he was coming here how about Helfrich or Frost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ducks need to stop sandbagging Mariota and let him do his thing. Could've had 7 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN QB Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Can we talk about the game, if I wanted to hear all of your amateur opinions on draft picks I would go to another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 how about Helfrich or Frost? Y would Helfrich leave one of the best gigs there is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Buckeyes defense has been seriously good since the first drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 If he could transition and just take the yards when they are there, like Wilson does, he could be effective. Arm strength aside, what concerns me is he really does throw a lot of passes to wide receivers that are wide open. And that will not happen in the NFL. I see a 6'5 version of russell wilson when I watch this kid. Wilson's arm is to Mariota's arm what Randy Johnson's arm is to Jamie Moyer's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Can we talk about the game, if I wanted to hear all of your amateur opinions on draft picks I would go to another thread Wait. So, talk about the game but not the players? Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Y would Helfrich leave one of the best gigs there is unless they are from the south they all want a shot at the show....haven't you ever seen Bull Durham? Saban, Spurrier, Kelly, Erickson, Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer. They all want to do it at the highest level. I'm not sold on Helfrich as an NFL HC yet but how about Scott Frost as QB coach? It's not a promotion per se but it puts him closer to NFL OC which I assume is his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Wilson's arm is to Mariota's arm what Randy Johnson's arm is to Jamie Moyer's arm. kind of like Joe Montana's arm to Jeff George's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 unless they are from the south they all want a shot at the show....haven't you ever seen Bull Durham? Saban, Spurrier, Kelly, Erickson, Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer. They all want to do it at the highest level. I'm not sold on Helfrich as an NFL HC yet but how about Scott Frost as QB coach? It's not a promotion per se but it puts him closer to NFL OC which I assume is his goal. Scott Frost will prob get a nice college gig in a year or 2. The pay is just as good as a NFL job these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 kind of like Joe Montana's arm to Jeff George's arm. Montana actually had a very good arm, but he also played in an era when LBs were running 5.0/40s. Those days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 You're buggin. There was more wrong with FSU as a unit than it was Jameis. Only one of these QB's suck, or what I should say is, only one of these QB's looks like they can be an NFL QB and it sure as hell isn't Mariota. Neither of them belong in the top of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Jetsy thing to do will be to go all-in on Mariota, watch Cardale Jones tear it up for another season in college and miss out on him when he declares the following year. He's a 22-year-old father, hates academics, and doesn't plan to return to be a 3rd string QB. He'll go in a mid round this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 sign him. i seen enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ducks defense can't stop a broken clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 2nd time tonight that Cardale has laid a hit on the guard to get a first down...he is one strong mfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Elliot is such a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 sign him. i seen enough Who Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I love this running back Elliott, great feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Montana actually had a very good arm, but he also played in an era when LBs were running 5.0/40s. Those days are gone. Mariota is 6'5, he runs a 4.4, and has a super-fast release. He may not have a browning nagle arm but his arm is good enough. While he hasn't played in a pro-style offense he has been playing in a system that forces him to make reads and understand the defense. Mariota is going to have to adjust to the NFL but given a good OC and system that fits his skills the kid is going to be great in the NFL. He doesn't have the arm but he is a better QB prospect than Kaepernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Meyer should run Elliott until his legs fall off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I see a 6'5 version of russell wilson when I watch this kid. I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Elliot does not look that fast, how in the world is he romping over Oregon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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