Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I respectfully disagree ... I think he's involved a lot more than is publicly known. JJ is out there an unabashedly making the calls.... It seems to me, Woody makes too many football decisions for PR reasons - and that is what's most concerning about him, to me. Ding Ding Ding... thank you 100% agree and this is why no top executive will come to the Jets. They want 100% control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Who do you think was instrumental in getting Favre to the Jets to sell PSL'S in his new stadium. Or push to draft Sanchez. Or get Tebow Sanchez was Rex's guy. Favre was a good move for us, it ended the Pennington era, gave us one of our best regular seasons this decade. Tebow wasn't a terrible move, Rex was stupid for not giving him playing time, but that was all about Rex being loyal to Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I respectfully disagree ... I think he's involved a lot more than is publicly known. JJ is out there an unabashedly making the calls.... It seems to me, Woody makes too many football decisions for PR reasons - and that is what's most concerning about him, to me. Then why did Woody keep Rex after the 2012 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Everyone is over-rating the sh*t out of that Falcons job. They have ONE player on defense and NO offensive line. Yes, they have Ryan and Julio, but that is basically it. That team is far less talented than even the Jets. Ryan is a franchise QB in the sense that the team is not going to find anyone more capable, but in the Rodgers/Luck/Brady tier, he is not. They need an entirely new team. We don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ding Ding Ding... thank you 100% agree and this is why no top executive will come to the Jets. They want 100% control. No executive has 100% control. The owner still has to sign the paychecks, so they have veto power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Then why did Woody keep Rex after the 2012 season? Because Rex brings a MASSIVE about of press to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Everyone is over-rating the sh*t out of that Falcons job. They have ONE player on defense and NO offensive line. Yes, they have Ryan and Julio, but that is basically it. That team is far less talented than even the Jets. Ryan is a franchise QB in the sense that the team is not going to find anyone more capable, but in the Rodgers/Luck/Brady tier, he is not. They need an entirely new team. We don't. I just made a similar post, rep for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Atlanta is not one player away from having a relevant defense, they need and entire defensive rebuild. Sure, they have Matt Ryan and Julio, but beyond those 2 players, they have a terrible OL, no RB, Roddy White looks done... they are a few drafts away from being good, that team is in piss poor shape. The Jets have a defense built and ready to go, getting back Milliner and McDougle and a couple of free agency moves and our defense can return to the top 10 in the leauge, there is a wealth of talent on that side of the ball. On offense, we need a QB, a QB makes the parts we've assembled on offense look 100% better. So, if the coach prospect thinks he can come up with a plan at QB with MacCagnan, then one could make the case that the Jets are far closer to being rebuilt. I Totally agree with you, I posted a few times in the Rex to Atlanta threads that I think that Atlanta roster is vastly over rated and it wasn't as great a job as people were thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Everyone is over-rating the sh*t out of that Falcons job. They have ONE player on defense and NO offensive line. Yes, they have Ryan and Julio, but that is basically it. That team is far less talented than even the Jets. Ryan is a franchise QB in the sense that the team is not going to find anyone more capable, but in the Rodgers/Luck/Brady tier, he is not. They need an entirely new team. We don't. all those holes are easier to fill than QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Because Rex brings a MASSIVE about of press to the team. Yeah negative press. And before you say "any publicity...." why are there rumors that Woody was scared by Mehta's bashing of Marrone? And if that's the case, why did Woody fire Rex now? There are contradictions in your statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Get Tebow I will give you a little bit, despite Tanny completely taking the blame himself. Jets had no other choice but Sanchez. Kellen Clemens was a bust and that drafts QBs were awful (Josh Freeman, Pat White) Now Favre. The new stadium wasn't even built yet. Why Would Woody sign an old QB JUST to get PSLs for a building that wasn't even completed yet? The owner wanted a new young QB to be his marquee on selling PSL's, so he pushed to hard to get a a young "franchise" QB. Woody went several time to Caly to interview Sanchez. PSL's were being sold before the new stadium was being built and having a Brett Farve was the big stage Woody covets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Mac is the GM. They just haven't announced it yet. I hear ya, just want some sort of announcement so we can get some confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sounds like they are worried they might not be able to get Quinn or Bowles. Today's Peter King MMQB: a. Atlanta, after Rex Ryan went to the Bills (too much uncertainty in the Falcons organization to hire him, from what I hear), likes two NFC West defensive coordinators—Seattle’s Dan Quinn and Arizona’s Todd Bowles. I bet they’d hire Quinn if he were available right now, but knowing he might not be on the street for three more weeks might play into it. b. The Jets, I hear, were scrambling to interview Bowles last night or today. They love Quinn too. They may not be able to get Quinn. If I were Quinn, with no sure quarterback there and no great familiarity with prospective GM Mike Maccagnan, the Texans’ director of college scouting, I’d much rather have the Atlanta job, even though I have family roots in New Jersey Its not like Peter King has not heartfelt hatred for the JETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 No executive has 100% control. The owner still has to sign the paychecks, so they have veto power. Look at the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. You think Robert Kraft gets in the way of football people he trusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The owner wanted a new young QB to be his marquee on selling PSL's, so he pushed to hard to get a a young "franchise" QB. Woody went several time to Caly to interview Sanchez. PSL's were being sold before the new stadium was being built and having a Brett Farve was the big stage Woody covets Right. and THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE AT QB. So the owner shouldn't interview potential draft picks now? That's DUMB. If Woody did do the move for Favre strictly for PSLs (which is false)then shame on the people who bought them for thinking Favre was going to stick around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 all those holes are easier to fill than QB Not when there are 20 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah negative press. And before you say "any publicity...." why are there rumors that Woody was scared by Mehta's bashing of Marrone? And if that's the case, why did Woody fire Rex now? There are contradictions in your statement Marrone and Rex are very different things - Rex comes with baggage but he'll also bring a lot of attention - good or bad, he'll keep the Jets in the public eye... by most account Marrone is quiet and mostly unlikable (to the media) in the Mehta case you get the worst of both worlds then. but to be fair - I'm not saying PR is the ONLY reason he makes decisions but I think it plays a larger role than it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm not going to be surprised if we see "HC interviews" this week (wink, wink) and these candidates are actually guys who Quinn wants on his staff Is McDermott's contract up in Carolina? I dont think its for the DC position, I dont think Quinn is a guarantee at all. I hope that is the case though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Look at the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. You think Robert Kraft gets in the way of football people he trusts. Mara just got Perry Fewell fired, despite Coughlin's wants to keep him. Kraft probably stays away now. Remember Parcells wanted out of New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I just made a similar post, rep for you! I just read it. It gave me a half-chubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm not going to be surprised if we see "HC interviews" this week (wink, wink) and these candidates are actually guys who Quinn wants on his staff They can re-interview Quinn in a week with Mac there. That is the scenario I see. This is good CYA strategy with mcDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Right. and THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE AT QB. So the owner shouldn't interview potential draft picks now? That's DUMB. If Woody did do the move for Favre strictly for PSLs (which is false)then shame on the people who bought them for thinking Favre was going to stick around No its a smarter to force a QB even though he does not have what it takes to be an upper echelon QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 No its a smarter to force a QB even though he does not have what it takes to be an upper echelon QB So you wanted Kellen Clemens to start at QB? Is that what you're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Maccagnan - GM Quinn - HC Shanahan - OC McDermott - DC Most Irish team in the league. maybe they change the name to the Fighting Irish--or is that an insensitive remark ethnically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Mara just got Perry Fewell fired, despite Coughlin's wants to keep him. Kraft probably stays away now. Remember Parcells wanted out of New England. Parcells wanted out because Kraft wanted a football guy (a GM) to shop for the groceries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Atlanta's 2015 cap situation: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/2015/ (without any adjustments or restructures they are ~$20M under the cap...An interesting side-note: $19.5M of their cap this year is consumed by Matt Ryan's contract, if they play with that they might be able to get more cap room) In contrast, the Jets are currently $39M under the projected cap, and that is before making any roster moves (like cutting Harvin to get $10M in cap relief). I'm no numbers guy, but this makes me think the Jets could get to near $50M of free cap to make adjustments this off-season. Having the number 6 overall pick to boot, and a relatively young roster. That has to be appealing to a new hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Parcells wanted out because Kraft wanted a football guy (a GM) to shop for the groceries. Exactly. Parcells didn't have 100% power. Kraft had veto power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 interviewing coaches is giving him something to do until the Hawks lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 53s53 seconds ago Jets and Falcons each planning to bring back Cardinals DC Todd Bowles for second HC interview, per sources; trying to finalize schedule now. If the jets look like they are competing for Bowles maybe Atlanta pulls the trigger on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Atlanta's 2015 cap situation: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/2015/ (without any adjustments or restructures they are ~$20M under the cap...An interesting side-note: $19.5M of their cap this year is consumed by Matt Ryan's contract, if they play with that they might be able to get more cap room) In contrast, the Jets are currently $39M under the projected cap, and that is before making any roster moves (like cutting Harvin to get $10M in cap relief). I'm no numbers guy, but this makes me think the Jets could get to near $50M of free cap to make adjustments this off-season. That has to be appealing to a new hire. I'm sure Mac went in with a QB plan. There has to be a play to go after someone they think they help them win this year. Get a solid vet, pick up a guard, another WR, a couple of corners, middle LB and this team can be very competitive quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Look at the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. You think Robert Kraft gets in the way of football people he trusts. Owners all look geniuses when the QB is playing at a very high level for decade plus and the team keeps on succeeding. It's as simple as that. The problem begins when you start to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm sure Mac went in with a QB plan. There has to be a play to go after someone they think they help them win this year. Get a solid vet, pick up a guard, another WR, a couple of corners, middle LB and this team can be very competitive quickly... Tom Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 A clever team more interested in Quinn might threaten to bring Bowles in for a second interview to force someone's hand to make a move to hire him before he gets a chance to meet for that second interview. Rex obviously wasn't a candidate for the Jets job, but I think it's probably less desirable than the Bills job. Ditto the Raiders job, which he didn't even have an interest in interviewing for. Brilliant deduction re Bowles I actually had the same thought and posted my reply before I read this, LOL. If true, I am impressed with Jet deviousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 So you wanted Kellen Clemens to start at QB? Is that what you're saying? Over trading all the picks and players we gave Cleveland at the time.... yes. We could have signed some hold the fort QB. Its easy for me to say what to do right now. But I really believe Woody Johnson pushed the Jets to trade up to get Sanchez not just for football reasons. When you make on the field decisions for non-football reasons you are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Is he still under contract? If so, he can't come to the Jets, unless Carolina allows it. McDermott makes around $1.25 million annually after receiving a raise after last season. He’s signed with Carolina through 2015, according to a league source. Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2015/01/12/5442333/carolina-panthers-coordinator.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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