BigRy56 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Over trading all the picks and players we gave Cleveland at the time.... yes. We could have signed some hold the fort QB. Its easy for me to say what to do right now. But I really believe Woody Johnson pushed the Jets to trade up to get Sanchez not just for football reasons. When you make on the field decisions for non-football reasons you are doomed. Are you forgetting the buzz around Sanchez as the draft came? The guy shot up the draft board like a rocket and there were other teams also trying to trade up to get him. Tanny traded up to get him because he was a good quarterback prospect and the Jets didn't have a quarterback. Woody had nothing to do with drafting Sanchez. What non-football reason was there to draft Sanchez? GQ??? Come on, man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 maybe they change the name to the Fighting Irish--or is that an insensitive remark ethnically? NEW YORK McJETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are you forgetting the buzz around Sanchez as the draft came? The guy shot up the draft board like a rocket and there were other teams also trying to trade up to get him. Tanny traded up to get him because he was a good quarterback prospect and the Jets didn't have a quarterback. Woody had nothing to do with drafting Sanchez. What non-football reason was there to draft Sanchez? GQ??? Come on, man... Tannenbaum and Ryan each had a Woody (pun intended) for Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Over trading all the picks and players we gave Cleveland at the time.... yes. We could have signed some hold the fort QB. Its easy for me to say what to do right now. But I really believe Woody Johnson pushed the Jets to trade up to get Sanchez not just for football reasons. When you make on the field decisions for non-football reasons you are doomed. Given that we gave a boatload of rubbish for him, that, IMO, is an idiotic statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Something must of happened with Quinn, i dont think Woody is that smart to bring in Bowles to trick Atlanta into hiring him. I think we should hire Bowles, I think he is a better all around coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The owner wanted a new young QB to be his marquee on selling PSL's, so he pushed to hard to get a a young "franchise" QB. Woody went several time to Caly to interview Sanchez. PSL's were being sold before the new stadium was being built and having a Brett Farve was the big stage Woody covets Maybe the Jets just wanted to get a good young QB because the team badly needed a QB and every team is constantly searching for that elusive franchise QB. If you win regularly, the PSL's sell themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Interview everyone. Everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are you forgetting the buzz around Sanchez as the draft came? The guy shot up the draft board like a rocket and there were other teams also trying to trade up to get him. Tanny traded up to get him because he was a good quarterback prospect and the Jets didn't have a quarterback. Woody had nothing to do with drafting Sanchez. What non-football reason was there to draft Sanchez? GQ??? Come on, man... What other teams were trying to trade up for Sanchez, or was that the Cleveland Browns leveraging the Jets. I think Woody pushed for Sanchez to sell PSL's so he could be his south Caliy boy he could marquee boy for PSL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What other teams were trying to trade up for Sanchez, or was that the Cleveland Browns leveraging the Jets. I think Woody pushed for Sanchez to sell PSL's so he could be his south Caliy boy he could marquee boy for PSL's. I remember Washington also actively trying to trade up for Sanchez too. If you think the Jets traded up for Mark Sanchez to sell PSLs and not to try to get a franchise quarterback you're crazy. The Jets had zero hope at quarterback after Favre and Sanchez turned that around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Over trading all the picks and players we gave Cleveland at the time.... yes. We could have signed some hold the fort QB. Its easy for me to say what to do right now. But I really believe Woody Johnson pushed the Jets to trade up to get Sanchez not just for football reasons. When you make on the field decisions for non-football reasons you are doomed. We didn't give up much to Cleveland. Mangenius kind of got fleeced on that one. That made it easier to digest. I was no Sanchez fan at all. I wanted to give up a mid-round pick for Jason Campbell and draft Hakeem Nicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I remember Washington also actively trying to trade up for Sanchez too. If you think the Jets traded up for Mark Sanchez to sell PSLs and not to try to get a franchise quarterback you're crazy. The Jets had zero hope at quarterback after Favre and Sanchez turned that around. I don't disagree with the need for a QB at the time, but to force Sanchez was not the right move. He played a hand full of games at USC and was not ready to be drafted where he was. I believe it was Woody who pushed this along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I don't disagree with the need for a QB at the time, but to force Sanchez was not the right move. He played a hand full of games at USC and was not ready to be drafted where he was. I believe it was Woody who pushed this along. Ink don't lie. Sanchez wasn't exactly forced on Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Something must of happened with Quinn, i dont think Woody is that smart to bring in Bowles to trick Atlanta into hiring him. I think we should hire Bowles, I think he is a better all around coach. Yes, but is he a better HC. Lot's of platoon leaders, but not many Generals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What other teams were trying to trade up for Sanchez, or was that the Cleveland Browns leveraging the Jets. I think Woody pushed for Sanchez to sell PSL's so he could be his south Caliy boy he could marquee boy for PSL's. Washington, I think, was trying to make a play for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yes, but is he a better HC. Lot's of platoon leaders, but not many Generals. ???? How can you possibly say this as if it's fact? Neither has been a full-time head coach before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Something must of happened with Quinn, i dont think Woody is that smart to bring in Bowles to trick Atlanta into hiring him. I think we should hire Bowles, I think he is a better all around coach. I like Bowles as a DC better. I like the way he is aggressive and pressures the offense. Just not sure how that translates into HC where he will run the whole team. I guess that's what our football people will evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Atlanta, Chicago, and San Fran all trump the Jets job. Rex took the only job less desirable than the Jets. Why is the Bills job less desirable than the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Why is the Bills job less desirable than the Jets? Because it's in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Because it's in Buffalo. Vs. New York City (and New York Media and New York Fans), that's not actually a negative. Rex will be far happier, I think, in Buffalo than he was in New York. Buffalo will love (I think) his College Rah Rah Big Talk ways and tough-guy image and passion. On the field/talent wise the two jobs are scarily similar, only being 1-win difference between the two clubs over the past four years, and sharing many of the same strengths/weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Because it's in Buffalo. About 200 inches of snow and a small market. You make in the NYC market you make it any where. That said NYC could be rough on you too the could fly planes and have billboards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 About 200 inches of snow and a small market. You make in the NYC market you make it any where. That said NYC could be rough on you too the could fly planes and have billboards.... It's harder to attract big name free agents to Buffalo as well. Mario Williams is about the only one I can think of in twenty plus years of free agency. And Bryce Paup, lol. That was recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ???? How can you possibly say this as if it's fact? Neither has been a full-time head coach before. Easy, my preference is Doug Marrone. Guy took over a terrible Cuse program and when he left it was pointing upwards. Took over a horrible Bills team and is leaving it after it's 1st winning season in forever. He has proven he is a HC. Many around here are confusing being a good coordinator with being a good HC. Sometimes you are what you are. Joe Walton was a good OC. Gary Kubiack is a good OC. The men who take the top Job need to find themselves a solid people to take over their duties and concentrate on the team. Here's a question. How many SBs would the Saints have won if their HC had kept an eye on his DC instead of just concentrating on his offense ? What has the Saints won since "Bounty Gate" ? A HC needs to be a General, not a platoon leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yes, but is he a better HC. Lot's of platoon leaders, but not many Generals. I think he is. I remember when he was the interim HC for Miami (granted it was only for 3 games) the whole team seemed to rally around him and played better as team not just on defense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Easy, my preference is Doug Marrone. Guy took over a terrible Cuse program and when he left it was pointing upwards. Took over a horrible Bills team and is leaving it after it's 1st winning season in forever. He has proven he is a HC. Many around here are confusing being a good coordinator with being a good HC. Sometimes you are what you are. Joe Walton was a good OC. Gary Kubiack is a good OC. The men who take the top Job need to find themselves a solid people to take over their duties and concentrate on the team. Here's a question. How many SBs would the Saints have won if their HC had kept an eye on his DC instead of just concentrating on his offense ? What has the Saints won since "Bounty Gate" ? A HC needs to be a General, not a platoon leader. Oh man, I am not gonna take the bait on another Marrone discussion. I've more than said my peace there. Point is, you can't possible say "Quinn is a better HC than Bowles" because neither are head coaches, nor have they ever been. And no one knows the personality they will take on once they're in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Why is the Bills job less desirable than the Jets? New ownership, questionable GM, no 1st round pick, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Oh man, I am not gonna take the bait on another Marrone discussion. I've more than said my peace there. Point is, you can't possible say "Quinn is a better HC than Bowles" because neither are head coaches, nor have they ever been. And no one knows the personality they will take on once they're in that position. I never did. I have no comment on either until I know who their coordinators will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Because it's in Buffalo. I used to love the road trip to Buffalo to watch the Pats/Bills. Great football town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think he is. I remember when he was the interim HC for Miami (granted it was only for 3 games) the whole team seemed to rally around him and played better as team not just on defense.. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I used to love the road trip to Buffalo to watch the Pats/Bills. Great football town. Yes it is a great football town!!! I do remember tailgating there in December 1998 when Jets clinched the division and how cold it was though. There were barn fires all over just to stay warm. I used to go there yearly and it was the best road trip to see a game in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I used to love the road trip to Buffalo to watch the Pats/Bills. Great football town. but after the game you get to go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yes it is a great football town!!! I do remember tailgating there in December 1998 when Jets clinched the division and how cold it was though. There were barn fires all over just to stay warm. I used to go there yearly and it was the best road trip to see a game in our division. Yep, it was a great road trip. We'd drive up from Cape Cod in a Winnebago and we used to park on the same old guys front lawn right by the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sure whatever, I still like Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yep, it was a great road trip. We'd drive up from Cape Cod in a Winnebago and we used to park on the same old guys front lawn right by the stadium. They get knocked for their weather (says the one living in south Florida) but the fans were always fun. There was not many ways in and out of the stadium but that was apart of its charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Although there has been no official announcement, several reports are indicating that Mike Maccagnan is the new general manager of the NY Jets. He isn’t wasting any time, as he is set to interview Carolina Panthers defensive coordinator for the vacant head coaching position. Jets' interview w/ Sean McDermott @DanGrazianoESPN mentioned expected to be conducted in part by Maccagnan, whose hiring isn't yet official. — Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 12, 2015 This interview could be a matter of having a contingency plan in place, as Woody Johnson seems like he is waiting on Dan Quinn. Quinn is busy at the moment as the Seahawks prepare to play the Packers in the NFC Championship game. Todd Bowles (Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator) is another candidate and he is coming back in for a second interview. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday that both the New York Jets and Atlanta Falcons are bringing in Bowles for a second interview, according to sources informed of the plans. The Jets, meanwhile, provide the type of defensive personnel already on the roster that would lend nicely to Bowles’ creative blitz schemes If the Jets decide that Bowles is their top choice, they are free to work out a deal with him right away. The speculation about ex-Bills coach Doug Marrone has quieted down, and we are told the Jets are no longer seriously considering hiring Marrone. One other candidate with a background in offense took his name out of the running. Ex-Texans coach next season. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Maccagnan - GM Quinn - HC Shanahan - OC McDermott - DC Most Irish team in the league. if it were not for alcohol the irish would be ruling the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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