Baller00 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Francesa is pumping Bowles. But, what a coincidence, so is Bill Parcells, who wants his son in law to sign him Bill Parcells head coaching recommendations should make every Jet fan very nervous. He pushed Ray Handley for the Giants, Al Groh for the Jets, and Tony Sparano for the Dolphins......fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I saw that, but I try (and succeed) not to let that douche influence any of my opinions. Watch some Bowles interviews on youtube. Made me really like the guy, FWIW (which is nothing) he could be great. I just get a kick out of Francesa still sniffing BP's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Bill Parcells head coaching recommendations should make every Jet fan very nervous. He pushed Ray Handley for the Giants, Al Groh for the Jets, and Tony Sparano for the Dolphins......fwiw Yep...I always wondered if Parcells recommended Sporano to the Jets when they were looking for an OC. He used him as an OC in Dallas and then got him the Miami job. Parcells obviously thought very highly of Sporano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Riddle me this: why did Andy Reid poach, of all people, Bob Sutton to be his DC in KC instead of Bowles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Riddle me this: why did Andy Reid poach, of all people, Bob Sutton to be his DC in KC instead of Bowles? Andy Reid once promoted his OL coach to DC. Who knows wtf he's thinking with his DC hires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 At this point I'd panic more if they don't sign Bowles. He interviews with ATL tomorrow, with Broncos HC job up for grabs Quinn might not even be ours once he's available. That is exactly what will happen if he leaves he is the HC of the Falcons and we r stuck with our C or D candidate and look like a clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Riddle me this: why did Andy Reid poach, of all people, Bob Sutton to be his DC in KC instead of Bowles? Sutton gifted him a box of donuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Bill Parcells head coaching recommendations should make every Jet fan very nervous. He pushed Ray Handley for the Giants, Al Groh for the Jets, and Tony Sparano for the Dolphins......fwiw Sparano is a good head coach, but overall your point has merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Why do you feel Quinn is better? Quinn rns Carroll's defense, Bowles runs his own defense. great point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The narrative has already been constructed in many people's minds that all of the Jets/Quinn rumors had to have been the absolute truth, no chance that it was misinformation, and therefore if the Jets hire Bowles it'll be "settling" or "missing out" or whatever. Let them run with it, it's hilarious that there could be this much adamant distinction between two guys we know very little about. You know what's ridiculous? Neither of these guys are proven at the HC level, so it's all speculation about how they'll do. And with that, unless you are convinced that Quinn is MUCH better (and how could you be?) than Bowles, then you have to take Bowles, rather than risking missing out on both. In other words, 1A vs 1B, if that's even the case, may be far better than 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckomania Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don't know enough about either of them to say who I want, but if they like Quinn better, I'd rather see them wait to get him, than hire the guy they like less, for a few weeks. Actually if they liked Quinn better than Bowles, that means to me that Bowles is the better choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You know what's ridiculous? Neither of these guys are proven at the HC level, so it's all speculation about how they'll do. And with that, unless you are convinced that Quinn is MUCH better (and how could you be?) than Bowles, then you have to take Bowles, rather than risking missing out on both. In other words, 1A vs 1B, if that's even the case, may be far better than 2 or 3. Exactly what I was posting this morning. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan4hire Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You don't feel those elite talents, who were mostly mid-round picks, were coached up at some point/currently? Chancellor and Sherman were mid rd picks. Wagner,Irvin and Thomas were 1st or 2nd rders. Most of the Dline were brought in via free agency. To answer your question i really dont know. One thing i dont like about how Quinn runs that defense is that he leaves Sherman on one side of the field pretty much every game and doesnt use him to shadow an opponets top wr. It doesnt really matter anyway since we hired Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Why Bowles? What has he done? Because we have the distinction of being fans of the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Why Bowles? What has he done? Why not give the guy a chance? What have any of the other candidates done? Perhaps you would prefer Marrone, he of the 15-17 record? Or maybe you wanted Marc Trestman, or maybe you are just an undying Rex Ryan lover. That must be it, can't get over that man crush on Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 People are going to bitch no matter who they hire. Well at least Jets fans are number 1 in something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Once Quinn leaves Seattle's D won't skip a beat. I am not saying he won't be a good coach. If he goes to ATL he will be in a perfect position if he brings in the right OC and gets the right D in place he will succeed. Bowles I think is the better all around coach who has more experience coaching as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 People are going to bitch no matter who they hire. Who can blame them? Jets don't exactly have a stellar hiring history. Jets and Woody deserve the complaints until they prove us wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Once Quinn leaves Seattle's D won't skip a beat. I am not saying he won't be a good coach. If he goes to ATL he will be in a perfect position if he brings in the right OC and gets the right D in place he will succeed. Bowles I think is the better all around coach who has more experience coaching as a whole. Yet I assure you that Pete's defenses were not top 5 before Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yet I assure you that Pete's defenses were not top 5 before Quinn. As the DC on the 49'ers in the mid 90's I think they were.. As for the Hawks in 2011 when Bradley was the DC they were 7th in points allowed the problem was the O was 23rd in scoring that changed with the addition of Wilson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Can't win. Sign Bowles and he screwed up. Let Bowles sign w/ Atl or Chicago and lose Quinn to Denver and he screwed up. Panic is signing Eric Mangini or Herm Edwards. Looking at your top two or three candidates and trying to lock them up isn't a horrible idea. That being said, I'd prefer they do some backchannel stuff to find out if they have a real shot at Quinn. If he wants to come home to NJ and Woody is willing to pay, then wait. If Quinn won't give an answer, look at every option. In other words, you admit that it was a move in response of fear of losing Quinn and having no one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 In other words, you admit that it was a move in response of fear of losing Quinn and having no one? How could I admit to something I don't know? Like everyone on here, I'm guessing as to what I believe happened. What I think happened, was that once the Broncos job opened up and the Atlanta vacancy hadn't been filled, the Jets knew Quinn could have two possible job openings with two elite QB's. They knew Bowles was due to visit one of the teams with said elite quarterback and they pounced. No matter what Woody did, some people were bound to complain about it because that's what some people do. In this case however, Woody has been praised pretty much universally but I still expect some people to upset with Woody hiring one of the consensus top-2 choices available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 In other words, you admit that it was a move in response of fear of losing Quinn and having no one? I do. Denver's opening changed the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 How could I admit to something I don't know? Like everyone on here, I'm guessing as to what I believe happened. What I think happened, was that once the Broncos job opened up and the Atlanta vacancy hadn't been filled, the Jets knew Quinn could have two possible job openings with two elite QB's. They knew Bowles was due to visit one of the teams with said elite quarterback and they pounced. No matter what Woody did, some people were bound to complain about it because that's what some people do. In this case however, Woody has been praised pretty much universally but I still expect some people to upset with Woody hiring one of the consensus top-2 choices available. I agree with you. I am just overly disappointed as I sincerely believe this to be simply another panic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I do. Denver's opening changed the game. What Quinn does better than anyone, is adjust IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What Quinn does better than anyone, is adjust IMO I think hiring Marrone would have been a panic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I agree with you. I am just overly disappointed as I sincerely believe this to be simply another panic move. It all comes down to what you consider to be a panic move. In my opinion, a classic Jets panic move would have been them saying "Oh no, Bowles is interviewing with Atlanta tomorrow and the Broncos could get Quinn, we better get Doug Marrone NOW". Instead, they said (again, my best guess) "One of the top two guys we want could be gone tomorrow if we don't get him today. Then Quinn can choose between Geno Smith and Peyton Manning. Get Bolwes in here before Atlanta even has a chance to make him an offer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It all comes down to what you consider to be a panic move. In my opinion, a classic Jets panic move would have been them saying "Oh no, Bowles is interviewing with Atlanta tomorrow and the Broncos could get Quinn, we better get Doug Marrone NOW". Instead, they said (again, my best guess) "One of the top two guys we want could be gone tomorrow if we don't get him today. Then Quinn can choose between Geno Smith and Peyton Manning. Get Bolwes in here before Atlanta even has a chance to make him an offer". You have valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You have valid points. Possibly, and now we get to spend the next few years finding out if it was the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Possibly, and now we get to spend the next few years finding out if it was the right move. Amen. Hopefully, not so painful years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We're Jets fans...do we know of any other? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Once Quinn leaves Seattle's D won't skip a beat. I am not saying he won't be a good coach. If he goes to ATL he will be in a perfect position if he brings in the right OC and gets the right D in place he will succeed. Bowles I think is the better all around coach who has more experience coaching as a whole. Seattle's D is gonna be broken up, they cant pay Sherman, Kam, Wagner, ect.. plus their QB Quinn leaves at right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yet I assure you that Pete's defenses were not top 5 before Quinn. They actually were under Gus Bradley, Quinn has been the DC for only 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Bowles resume is better. He served as an assistant head coach, and interim head coach, while also serving as a DC with more than one franchise. Quinn has only been a DC with Seattle and a college team. I've also read in three different places (including noted Jet hater Gary Myers) that Bowles was more impressive in his interview than Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Seattle's D is gonna be broken up, they cant pay Sherman, Kam, Wagner, ect.. plus their QB Quinn leaves at right time. True, but Quinn has only been the DC for 2 years. No doubt he got out at the right time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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