ZachEY Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Is he a Pats* troll? A troll with a love for Brady that crosses boundaries into the homoerotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Not sure how Woody's comment would affect the Pats decision on keeping Revis at 20 mil. Revis isn't worth $4M. HE is washed up, look how he played last week against the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Revis will be in green next season and they know it. He has said he wants to return. Jmo D Revis most likely will be playing in Buffalo with his buddy Rex. ( he would have returned when Rex was still there coach). I can't see him coming back with Woody Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks Woody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think the punishment is based on the quality of player, which is based on his contract (I might be wrong). Considering Revis is under contract for 20M next year, that, if I'm right on this, would make this a very high end tampering charge. 1st is probably unlikely, but a 2nd isn't outside the range of possibility So, that's a no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 What negotiation? He's under contract for next season, for $20,000,000. Are you saying that the Pats don't intend to honor that contract? They intend to renegotiate it, but yes, he's under control for next season, thus tampering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 let go of anything associated with Ryans regimen ... Why? He's lost a lot of weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What negotiation? He's under contract for next season, for $20,000,000. Are you saying that the Pats don't intend to honor that contract? In his world, the Pats try to renegotiate with Darrelle Revis at a lower number and Woody just ruined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think the punishment is based on the quality of player, which is based on his contract (I might be wrong). Considering Revis is under contract for 20M next year, that, if I'm right on this, would make this a very high end tampering charge. 1st is probably unlikely, but a 2nd isn't outside the range of possibility Revis sucks now. Didn't you see him get burned by Smith for a TD. Then he almost cost the Pats* the game with 2 bad penalties, wiping out a fumble. If he makes $4M next year he found a sap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This ******* guy. He's not even a Cheatriots fan. He's a Brady fan. He already admitted he only cares about Brady not the Cheats. Worst fans on the planet and they have to infest this board. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 In his world, the Pats try to renegotiate with Darrelle Revis at a lower number and Woody just ruined it. Expressing any interest in a player under contract gives said players agent more leverge in contract negotiations. It would be like Belichick announcing that he would be willing to pay `Insert Jets Player Here` 10M a year to come play for NE while that player is coming up on a contract year for NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Because it makes contract negotiation more difficult for the Patriots when other teams are saying they want him while under contract. Good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Any interest in betting on this? I'm thinking a grand if it's a 1st, 500 if it's a second... You pay out at a grand if nothing. You in? Of course he's not in. You're not even paying out in full and he could get odds on this from my cat. Pats goon, if you have money and are interested in a real market, please PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 we would be foolish to think Jets might not be culpable here, Woody is so dumb, you simply don't mention other payers, much less say you want them. This a textbook case, comparable to others in the past. And stop with the freedom of speech crap, the NFL rules are pretty clear on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Expressing any interest in a player under contract gives said players agent more leverge in contract negotiations. It would be like Belichick announcing that he would be willing to pay `Insert Jets Player Here` 10M a year to come play for NE while that player is coming up on a contract year for NY None of this is even remotely analogous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 we would be foolish to think Jets might not be culpable here, Woody is so dumb, you simply don't mention other payers, much less say you want them. This a textbook case, comparable to others in the past. And stop with the freedom of speech crap, the NFL rules are pretty clear on this. Then Ryan tampered with Sanchez. FA doesn't start till 3/10/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Typical pats move. They wont even pick up his contract option making it moot anyway. Just knife twisting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Of course he's not in. You're not even paying out in full and he could get odds on this from my cat. Pats goon, if you have money and are interested in a real market, please PM! He seems confident... Easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm just looking at past occurances NFL strips 49ers of fifth-round draft pick for tampering http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d807625f4/article/nfl-strips-49ers-of-fifthround-draft-pick-for-tampering Goodell also determined the teams will switch picks in the third round of the April 26-27 draft. Chicago, which had the 12th pick, will get San Francisco's seventh pick and the 49ers will get Chicago's choice. Just one example among more than one example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Then Ryan tampered with Sanchez. FA doesn't start till 3/10/15. If Rex said he would love to have Sanchez on the Biils, than Philly can file grievance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm just looking at past occurances NFL strips 49ers of fifth-round draft pick for tampering http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d807625f4/article/nfl-strips-49ers-of-fifthround-draft-pick-for-tampering Just one example among more than one example In the case you bring up, the team contacted the players agent. I think you accidentally left that out of your post. But it is in the link..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 They intend to renegotiate it, but yes, he's under control for next season, thus tampering. SOJ, they cheat like hell and go 4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If Rex said he would love to have Sanchez on the Biils, than Philly can file grievance. I'm just looking at past occurances NFL strips 49ers of fifth-round draft pick for tampering http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d807625f4/article/nfl-strips-49ers-of-fifthround-draft-pick-for-tampering Just one example among more than one example When did Woody contact his agent? There are degrees of any rule infraction. If Woody has contacted Revis's agent then I would agree with a low draft pick swap. A slip of the tongue is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 In the case you bring up, the team contacted the players agent. I think you accidentally left that out of your post. But it is in the link..... Doesn't matter. Tampering is tampering. They're not going to think about if an owner publicly saying he wants a player is worse than an agent being contacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just give him a fine for his off the cuff remark-anything more than that is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Doesn't matter. Tampering is tampering. They're not going to think about if an owner publicly saying he wants a player is worse than an agent being contacted. Wow, Pats* fans really are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 He seems confident... Easy money. Laying the odds is still easy money. You have to do it from go though. Even people who just don't get stuff have developed some limited ability to sense when the cosmos is playing another trick on them and when you're willing to move by an order of magnitude even the dimmest of bulbs starts glowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Doesn't matter. Tampering is tampering. They're not going to think about if an owner publicly saying he wants a player is worse than an agent being contacted. So, if it doesn't matter, then every single case of tampering is met with a 5th round pick and a 3rd round swap because "tampering is tampering." That is accurate, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If i recall, Lions lost a pic because Gunther Cunningham said he wanted a player from the Chiefs. Weren't the Jet's accussed of this before with Crabtree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Doesn't matter. Tampering is tampering. They're not going to think about if an owner publicly saying he wants a player is worse than an agent being contacted. Link to where Johnson said he wants Revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hopefully the NFL will realize that Woody was put on the spot in his firing press conference and misspoke. It was clearly Woody trying to say the right thing to the fan base and he made a mistake. Not tampering. Anyone who knows the Revis Woody relationship knows there is no way in hell that Revis ever comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If i recall, Lions lost a pic because Gunther Cunningham said he wanted a player from the Chiefs. Weren't the Jet's accussed of this before with Crabtree? Weren't the Jets cleared on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 If i recall, Lions lost a pic because Gunther Cunningham said he wanted a player from the Chiefs. Weren't the Jet's accussed of this before with Crabtree? Yeah, I was going to post the Lions example but I thought one made the point sufficiently. There is an obvious and undeniable precedent for the loss of draft picks for this. I'm basically certain the Jets are going to lose one (or some). The only real question is which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 In the case you bring up, the team contacted the players agent. I think you accidentally left that out of your post. But it is in the link..... Yep, a mistake like saying something publically about a player under contract is like making a mistake and taping from the wrong spot on the field. Neither is really a big deal at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yeah because before woody said anything, the patriots had all the leverage because revis's agent thought that no one probably wanted him anyway... Now that revis's agents know another team wants him, they can play hardball in negotiations... Lol. News flash: 32 teams in the league want revis. Revis knows it. The patriots know it. I understand what the letter of the law says... But anything more than a fine is simply ridiculous in this circumstance. He ****ed up, but didn't affect negotiations one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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