Charlie Brown Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/videos/Maccagnan-Relationship-with-Bowles-Is-Critical/edff2343-6ad1-41bf-8e50-71040610da95 Thank you very much for this link!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Jets know they got crap at QB and are not confident that they can significantly upgrade that position so they did the smart thing and hired an OC who's done more with less. If Jets had a better QB situation they would've gone a different route for OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I dunno what to make of this guy yet. He doesn't have a great HC resume, his OC resume is mediore. Hoping for the best. The million dollar question is, why was this guy hired by Kansas City as an OC and than demoted and lost his OC role in the preseason the same year he was hired back in 07 or 08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgmn Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Free agents I would like to see as Jets: Wr Randell Cobb, or Dez Bryant, LB Justin Houston, a Guard, and Cross back!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Jets know they got crap at QB and are not confident that they can significantly upgrade that position so they did the smart thing and hired an OC who's done more with less. If Jets had a better QB situation they would've gone a different route for OC. Really? So Bowles knew last yr he was going to be the Jets HC when he reached out to Gailey? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 How is Gailey any different from Shotty, Sparano and Morningwhig? He hasn't been thrown under the bus to protect the coach/QB of the NYJ yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's hard to describe how far ahead our new GM and HC are above what we had. Great interview, and I have almost unbounded enthusiasm. In truth I feel the same way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Just read this on Twitter. True? If you don't count Elway. But there was no helping that guy anyway, so I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm going to have to get used to jets moves receiving praise from all corners even my giants fans friends, lol It is a little scary actually.... I am just not used to it!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thank you very much for this link!!! No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Awesome job Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It is a little scary actually.... I am just not used to it!!!!!!!!!! I'm just going to go with it GO JETS !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm going to have to get used to jets moves receiving praise from all corners even my giants fans friends, lol It's a sign of the coming apocalypse. Soon the sky will be full of locusts and the Hudson river will run red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 How is Gailey any different from Shotty, Sparano and Morningwhig? Shotty: inexperienced play caller/OC, wrong guy to nuture a rookie QB as was Sanchez Sparano: Never was an O/C in his past Morningwhig: Many will argue Andy Reid was the true brains behind the Philly offense Although hoping that the Jets were going hire a head coach with actual head coaching experience, i think the addition of Gailey satisfies that necessity. From what i've read about him, most players that have played for him have nothing but good things to say about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Maccagnan sure loves his coffee lol the few pictures and videos I've seen he always has a coffee in his hand. On the otherhand, not to get too excited but it's night and day to the way Idzik sounded. I hear confidence and real plan with this guy, looking back Idzik sounded way in over his head. But hey two years from now we might be flying "fire Mike Maccagnan" signs who knows. I'm excited right now though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I guess Gailey is the safer choice over Gase who was just a glorified puppet under Manning in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Jets Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Here comes the spread offense. We are about to become a real NFL offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Maccagnan sure loves his coffee lol the few pictures and videos I've seen he always has a coffee in his hand. On the otherhand, not to get too excited but it's night and day to the way Idzik sounded. I hear confidence and real plan with this guy, looking back Idzik sounded way in over his head. But hey two years from now we might be flying "fire Mike Maccagnan" signs who knows. I'm excited right now though! As long time Jets fans.... we all should have-- " High Hopes" for our team. Just dreaming that all the new coaches and staff are on the same page and we don't get super mistake- prone for the first few games. 13 men on the field, etc. btw-- anybody hear anything our Special Teams coach..? is McGaughy gone..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Bill Walsh couldn't help Geno. I'll live with gailey, but if they trot Geno out there I'll sh-t ... He's a disgrace Why oh why oh why are we talking about saving Geno? Making Geno serviceable? None of this can be done I read somewhere that Geno Smith was the only QB in the NFL last year to post a perfect QB rating in a game. To risk being labeled a Geno lover, the guy does have physical talent. He's fast, has a good arm, he just makes some really bad decisions - mostly regarding protecting the football. But there's some raw material there to work with. And there needs to be, because the reality is that there aren't a lot of options out there at QB to replace him. You bring in the best vet you can find, supplement that with a draft pick, and hope thru genuine competition some cream rises to the top. Geno is gonna be in the mix. I like the fact that Gailey has given some mediocre to poor QBs their best seasons. He's proven capable of getting more out of less. As a veteran coach, he's a smart hire for Bowles to run the other side of the ball. As a former head coach, he provides a nice sounding board for our rookie head coach. I wasn't excited when I first heard his name, but I've definitely warmed to him and I'm glad that they finally closed the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Maccagnan sure loves his coffee lol the few pictures and videos I've seen he always has a coffee in his hand. On the otherhand, not to get too excited but it's night and day to the way Idzik sounded. I hear confidence and real plan with this guy, looking back Idzik sounded way in over his head. But hey two years from now we might be flying "fire Mike Maccagnan" signs who knows. I'm excited right now though! If it is coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Galley will be loved for about the 1st 5 games, be questioned by the 2nd 5 games and then vilified for the rest of the year just like every other oc this team has had for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/videos/Bowles_You_Have_to_Fight_For_Everything/e344b17d-4817-41aa-b285-2decff0a540d Todd Bowles interview, loved it. "I didn't talk about myself." Polar opposite of the used car salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I guess Gailey is the safer choice over Gase who was just a glorified puppet under Manning in Denver. Agreed. I think I've arrived at the conclusion that Gailey is the type of coach that can create a system QB, while most of the other options at OC rely on having a great QB in order to produce. Probably the better scenario for us, since we don't have a "guy" yet. I'd love to see Gailey designing an offense for someone better than Thigpen, Fiedler or Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Galley will be loved for about the 1st 5 games, be questioned by the 2nd 5 games and then vilified for the rest of the year just like every other oc this team has had for years. Disagree. Paul Hackett was despised from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Galley will be loved for about the 1st 5 games, be questioned by the 2nd 5 games and then vilified for the rest of the year just like every other oc this team has had for years. That's a very true statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Jets will certainly bring a veteran QB in. It will be very interesting to see who it is. It will tell a lot about what Smith's fate will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://turnonthejets.com/2015/01/toj-film-room-chan-gaileys-offense-part-1/ TOJ Film Room – Chan Gailey’s, Offense Part 1 12 By Mike "Tiny" Nolan. January 22, 2015 Posted in: Chan Gailey Featured Posts Film Breakdown Mike Nolan Offense TOJ Film Room Tagged: Chan Gailey, Mike Nolan, New York Jets, TOJ Film Room The New York Jets have officially announced Chan Gailey as the team’s next Offensive Coordinator. This may seem like a strange hire. Gailey hasn’t coached since 2012 and his Head Coaching stints were nothing, if not underwhelming. Even so, many around the league consider Gailey to be a strong offensive mind. TOJ’s Dalbin Osorio took a look at Gailey’s career here. Today, Mike Nolan dives into the film to see what Jets fans can expect from Gailey’s system. In Part 1, Mike takes a look at Gailey’s overall offensive philosophy… Philosophy The Jets are in the middle of a cold streak of Offensive Coordinators. Watching Marty Mornhinweg’s offense the past two seasons was equally as frustrating as his two predecessors. One major gripe with Martyball is that there didn’t seem to be a fundamental philosophy or system behind what he was doing. He would go away from things when they were working (ahem, Chris Ivory). He would immediately start digging in his bag of tricks when he was on the goal line. And I don’t know how many 3 and outs we had to watch where he was spread on 1st Down, Double Tight on 2nd down, and in the Wildcat on 3rd Down. On the surface, Chan Gailey seems to be of a different mindset. Many have mentioned Gailey’s ability to adapt to his players, running a variety of “systems” at his many stops in both College and the Pros. More recently, his system has followed a basic philosophy to get the most out of his players. That is to spread out, often with 4 WRs, to identify and take advantage of mismatches created by space and personnel in both the pass and running game. This was most prevalent at Georgia Tech and Buffalo and may have started to develop as far back as his days with Pittsburgh in the 1990s. The Spread Offense The basic concept of the Spread Offense is to dictate personnel to the defense and make offensive reads easier based on how the defense responds. Simply put, if teams decide to play base personnel against a 4 WR set, then the offense generally has an advantage through the air. If the defense decides to play a sub package with more defensive backs, the offense generally has an advantage running the football. The offense can find personnel mismatches or they can identify alignment mismatches. Whether its the Air Raid, Run and Shoot, or Spread Option offenses, this is the basic concept that spread offenses use to pile up points. Some would consider Chan Gailey somewhat of an innovator in that he fully embraced the spread as his base offense. Most teams in the NFL used some spread formations and concepts, but generally opted to maintain Pro-Style formations as their base due to the speed in the NFL. Gailey was one of the rare NFL coaches who chose to run the Spread as his base formation and proved that it could be successful. In the first screenshot, the Bills line up in a Spread set with 3 Receivers to the top of the screen. The Raiders are in a nickel package with 2 Deep Safeties and only 6 in the box. Tight End Scott Chandler motions into the backfield. The Raiders do not adjust and keep 6 in the box. With Chandler in the backfield, the Bills have 6 blockers. The Raiders are out flanked inside, a clear advantage for Fred Jackson and the run game. Against the Patriots, the Bills are in a 5 WR set with Fred Jackson split out to the bottom of the screen. This is something Gailey does a lot of with his backs. He split out both Jackson and CJ Spiller often and would have them on the field together a lot. Notice how far off the corner is playing. As soon as Fitzpatrick sees blitz coming, he should identify Man Coverage. As far off as the corner was playing, Fitzpatrick knows he should have Jackson wide open on the underneath route. The Bills put the Patriots in a bad defense and they took advantage by putting a playmaker in space for the long touchdown. In both clips Gailey took advantage of mismatches by alignment for huge gains. Sometimes it is by play call and with tendencies they are seeing from the defense. Other times, it could be from changes on the fly based on how the defense lines up. Because of the spacing of the offense, advantages are much easier to identify both on the field and from the sideline. This is where Gailey wins as an Offensive Coordinator. Instead of doing things with no rhyme or reason, he is going to take what the defense gives him as often as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Ray1 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 How is Gailey any different from Shotty, Sparano and Morningwhig? Clueless as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Ray1 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I read somewhere that Geno Smith was the only QB in the NFL last year to post a perfect QB rating in a game. To risk being labeled a Geno lover, the guy does have physical talent. He's fast, has a good arm, he just makes some really bad decisions - mostly regarding protecting the football. But there's some raw material there to work with. And there needs to be, because the reality is that there aren't a lot of options out there at QB to replace him. You bring in the best vet you can find, supplement that with a draft pick, and hope thru genuine competition some cream rises to the top. Geno is gonna be in the mix. I like the fact that Gailey has given some mediocre to poor QBs their best seasons. He's proven capable of getting more out of less. As a veteran coach, he's a smart hire for Bowles to run the other side of the ball. As a former head coach, he provides a nice sounding board for our rookie head coach. I wasn't excited when I first heard his name, but I've definitely warmed to him and I'm glad that they finally closed the deal. Geno has the tools to be a good QB, and to put it together. He's 23 years old, the benching last year helped him, young QB's who are thrown to the fire go through a lot of ups and downs. Teams need to stop rushing QB's to the fire, they need to sit and soak the pro game in from the sideline for a period of time. Geno's finish in the final 5 games was big for him, and hopefully big for this team going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Galley will be loved for about the 1st 5 games, be questioned by the 2nd 5 games and then vilified for the rest of the year just like every other oc this team has had for years. This is a true statement that just proves how most fans don't know as much about the Xs and Os of football as they think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I read somewhere that Geno Smith was the only QB in the NFL last year to post a perfect QB rating in a game. To risk being labeled a Geno lover, the guy does have physical talent. He's fast, has a good arm, he just makes some really bad decisions - mostly regarding protecting the football. But there's some raw material there to work with. And there needs to be, because the reality is that there aren't a lot of options out there at QB to replace him. You bring in the best vet you can find, supplement that with a draft pick, and hope thru genuine competition some cream rises to the top. Geno is gonna be in the mix. I like the fact that Gailey has given some mediocre to poor QBs their best seasons. He's proven capable of getting more out of less. As a veteran coach, he's a smart hire for Bowles to run the other side of the ball. As a former head coach, he provides a nice sounding board for our rookie head coach. I wasn't excited when I first heard his name, but I've definitely warmed to him and I'm glad that they finally closed the deal. I agree.... Problem is do we waste a year on him again? When do we pull the plug? he absolutely has raw talent but his head seems to be not there at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I agree.... Problem is do we waste a year on him again? When do we pull the plug? he absolutely has raw talent but his head seems to be not there at times. The Jets have to do whatever they can at the QB position but, unfortunately, there's not a lot they can do. There are no big free agents on the market. No great players available in a trade. The top two QBs in the draft are likely to be gone by their pick, and each of them comes with a few question marks, anyway. With that said, you bring in the best vet you can get, draft one as high as the second round, and have an open competition. If Geno wins that competition, you play him. If he's still not the guy at that point, you try again next year. The team is only stuck with him until they find someone better. Or they really just give up, as was the case with Sanchez. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The Jets have to do whatever they can at the QB position but, unfortunately, there's not a lot they can do. There are no big free agents on the market. No great players available in a trade. The top two QBs in the draft are likely to be gone by their pick, and each of them comes with a few question marks, anyway. With that said, you bring in the best vet you can get, draft one as high as the second round, and have an open competition. If Geno wins that competition, you play him. If he's still not the guy at that point, you try again next year. The team is only stuck with him until they find someone better. Or they really just give up, as was the case with Sanchez. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Agree in spirit.... but Im tired of wasting 2nd round picks on a QB. We have wasted so many 2nd roundpicks the last 5 years. Clemens, Geno, Vlad, Hill. But unfortunately you are right. Id simply rather (maybe) use a 2nd on a more solid prospect at Guard, tackle, WR. We have so many needs. I like bringing in Matt Moore or any vet and using all picks to shore up our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Agree in spirit.... but Im tired of wasting 2nd round picks on a QB. We have wasted so many 2nd roundpicks the last 5 years. Clemens, Geno, Vlad, Hill. But unfortunately you are right. Id simply rather (maybe) use a 2nd on a more solid prospect at Guard, tackle, WR. We have so many needs. I like bringing in Matt Moore or any vet and using all picks to shore up our team. I hear you, that's why I said as high as... Just bringing in a Matt Moore type guy isn't going to cut it (and last time Moore was a free agent, he had no interest in leaving Miami for a starting opportunity). Not having a fourth round pick (if they keep Harvin) hurts. Be interesting to see if Maccagnan tries to trade down an acquire more picks. I think the #6 overall might be a wasteland, but trading down in the second might be a real possibility - unless they like a QB there! Lol. They need more in here than merely the best of the scrap heap that is the free agent QB market, though. That's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 what the guy been doing for the last 2 years, I do not like a coach who been away from the game for a long time.The game may pass him by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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