RSJ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Not happening. It's too big of a game and there's too much peripheral $ to do something like that. Too many people paid too much money for tickets, airfare, non-refundable hotel rooms at gouge-rates (3-4 night minimums, too). Any game prior to that, while still unprecedented, is possible. The SB is its own animal. There isn't a 1/1000 chance of bumping them from the SB, particularly after such a convincing victory. Bumping them punishes a lot of people who have already shelled out a lot of their money on that upcoming game. 99.9% of the people who would be punished by such a move had nothing to do with it and had no idea it was going on. It won't happen, but it would be nice if the other teams all banded together to force Goodell to do something truly serious about them that will be felt. Any fine is pointless and painless unless they're fining Belichick some outlandish amount like $15 million (which will also never happen). I don't know what Goodell will do but I'm optimistic it won't be a $25K fine. Under any other circumstance I would agree. But being the second time, knowing he messed up with the punishment the first time. I think putting the colts in the SB is a fair punishment. The NFL can prepare for a super bowl in a week. It has done so in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 No, the point is all teams do it. How come the Pats are the only team team to get caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Perfect punishment is to be locked in a small room with you for a few days Weak. how about four days in an elevator with Ray Rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 How come the Pats are the only team team to get caught? Pats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Under any other circumstance I would agree. But being the second time, knowing he messed up with the punishment the first time. I think putting the colts in the SB is a fair punishment. The NFL can prepare for a super bowl in a week. It has done so in the past. then that wouldn't be fair to the ravens. they should make the ravens battle the colts. a championship game go-over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 What's the difference? The venue, advertisers, and ticketholders were committed long before the two conference champs were determined. They signed up no matter what teams are playing. This is untrue. People buy superbowl tickets after the championship game is over. The fact that you can't get them on Ticketmaster doesn't negate this. Pretend the Jets get to the superbowl someday (do some really hard pretending). Will there be a bunch of Jets fans at the game? I would say yes. Would each of those Jets fans have had those tickets otherwise? I would say no. Fans buy tickets from online and offline ticket brokers, as packages that come with pregame party events or stand-alone's. Then they have to buy plane tickets. Then they have to book hotel rooms (and you can't just book for the night). Plus other transportation to/from the stadium. The suggestion that no one who buys superbowl tickets for thousands of dollars per seat is at all influenced by who's in the game is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 If the NFL has concrete proof (why haven't we seen the results of the Colts balls?) that the Pats were directly responsible for the deflated balls, I wouldn't be surprised that the following would happen: Belichick suspended immediatley (including for the Super Bowl) for one year. Pats to lose multiple draft picks, including at least one 1st rounder. Kraft to be fined anywhere between $3MM-$5MM. Concrete proof? Hell, better be fire proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Patriots* Perhaps there should be two asterisks now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Pats* Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This is untrue. People buy superbowl tickets after the championship game is over. The fact that you can't get them on Ticketmaster doesn't negate this. Pretend the Jets get to the superbowl someday (do some really hard pretending). Will there be a bunch of Jets fans at the game? I would say yes. Would each of those Jets fans have had those tickets otherwise? I would say no. Fans buy tickets from online and offline ticket brokers, as packages that come with pregame party events or stand-alone's. Then they have to buy plane tickets. Then they have to book hotel rooms (and you can't just book for the night). Plus other transportation to/from the stadium. The suggestion that no one who buys superbowl tickets for thousands of dollars per seat is at all influenced by who's in the game is nonsense. The Patriots refund their fans losses. Problem solved. Totally fair too since they probably should never have made money by being in the AFC Championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Poor pats, when I did a google search and typed in Patriots, the very 1st auto fill phrase was 'Patriots under inflating footballs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I know you're right but I could give a sh*t if the Pats fans are the ones who pay. Hit the franchise where it hurts, their supporters. How many countless other fans have payed over the years for the sh*t this team pulls? I'm sympathetic to your opinion about their team and their fans. The league isn't asking you, though. It is simply undoable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 No, the point is all teams do it. Not all teams cheat. Whats the point of the officials checking the footballs before the game if the teams are going to tamper with the balls? Why is it that the Patriots are the ones caught and not all the other teams? We heard the same thing about spy gate and how other teams take down the opponents signals, yet no other team was caught. Why is it at half time when the balls where checked again all of Indy's balls were good but the Pats balls were deflated? Your team is a powerhouse, Belichick is a coaching genius and Tom Brady is the best pocket passing QB probably ever. Yet with that Robert Kraft (because its ultimately his team) allows such shenanigans? The coach should be suspended for the year and Tom Brady as well because the Coach is the head and the QB took advantage of the circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Poor pats, when I did a google search and typed in Patriots, the very 1st auto fill phrase was 'Patriots under inflating footballs' That's funny. I get "filmed Rams walkthrough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Goodell's public statement: "After thoroughly inspecting the football's used last weekend by the Patriots and Colts, it was determined that 11 out of 12 balls the Patriots provided were underinflated in accordance with NFL rules. It was also verified and determined that 11 out of the 12 balls used by the Colts were underinflated as well. After discussions with 9 highly renowned, unbiased scientists from the World Meterology Consortium, it has been concluded that the cold, rainy weather was solely responsible for the under-inflated footballs used in that game. Therefore, the NFL has determined no violations of league rules has ever occured. Enjoy the great upcomming Super Bowl." Link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Under any other circumstance I would agree. But being the second time, knowing he messed up with the punishment the first time. I think putting the colts in the SB is a fair punishment. The NFL can prepare for a super bowl in a week. It has done so in the past. It has nothing to do with the NFL preparing. The NFL is not settling up with all the people who made other arrangements as a result of the Pats winning the game. Every SB ticket bought. Every package. Every flight booked. Every hotel booked for the 4 night minimum. The commercial time sold and subject material in them that may pertain to who's in the game. There are so many things that have nothing to do with the game on the field. It isn't happening. A championship game would be different. You could change teams in the championship game. It's not 1/100 of the event the superbowl is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 collinsworth should refer to him as BALLICHECK the entire superbowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Patriots refund their fans losses. Problem solved. Totally fair too since they probably should never have made money by being in the AFC Championship game. Yeah ok, that'll happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'd search for the results but I'm at work and I don't really want to Google "Colts balls" from my office computer. Come on dude. Just cross out JiF and write Colts instead. not that hard,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 If anything, hopefully the refs see this as an insult and stop with the favorable playcalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I highly doubt the NFL would misspell "upcoming" in their statement. That's just Pats homer talk right there. A troll and bad at grammar... Still don't know why this guy is still allowed to post here. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It has nothing to do with the NFL preparing. The NFL is not settling up with all the people who made other arrangements as a result of the Pats winning the game. Every SB ticket bought. Every package. Every flight booked. Every hotel booked for the 4 night minimum. The commercial time sold and subject material in them that may pertain to who's in the game. There are so many things that have nothing to do with the game on the field. It isn't happening. A championship game would be different. You could change teams in the championship game. It's not 1/100 of the event the superbowl is. The tickets were bought from the teams. That is an easy one to refund. The hotels can be backed out of. The airfare I can see as an issue - but it's really the only issue and the Pats fine can be reimbursing its fans. The commercial time can be resold. Not an issue there either. Especially when most is sold far in advance. The NFL licenses the super bowl a year in advance, sometimes farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckomania Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 mike freeman ✔ @mikefreemanNFL Follow Gerry Austin, longtime referee, says halftime Pats-Colts footballs brought in, checked at half. Colts footballs still legal. Pats were not. Now we have our explanation for why there was a 5 minute delay before the 1st drive of the 3rd Quarter when the refs got a different ball for the Patriots at their own 20 yard line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 new espn.com front page. If true pats must be punished. If True, Pats Must Be Punished If True, Pats Must Be Punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 the NY Post will have to bring this back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12205179/if-allegations-prove-true-new-england-patriots-arrogance-consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This is untrue. People buy superbowl tickets after the championship game is over. The fact that you can't get them on Ticketmaster doesn't negate this. Pretend the Jets get to the superbowl someday (do some really hard pretending). Will there be a bunch of Jets fans at the game? I would say yes. Would each of those Jets fans have had those tickets otherwise? I would say no. Fans buy tickets from online and offline ticket brokers, as packages that come with pregame party events or stand-alone's. Then they have to buy plane tickets. Then they have to book hotel rooms (and you can't just book for the night). Plus other transportation to/from the stadium. The suggestion that no one who buys superbowl tickets for thousands of dollars per seat is at all influenced by who's in the game is nonsense. Bah. It's only been a few days. They can resell them instantly to Colts fans. There will always be a demand for SB tix no matter who plays. And don't tell me you never canceled a flight or hotel reservation before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I gotta be honest though....I think it was worth them winning last week - to see the cheaters get caught again... This is how I feel too. It's great. Watching Pats fans be in complete denial about it is equally entertaining. Few things will ever beat WickedAnal and TX blaming Deflategate on Jets fans at first. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Jerry Rice ✔ @JerryRice Follow 11 of 12 balls under-inflated can anyone spell cheating!!! #Just Saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah ok, that'll happen. Not saying it will happen. Just saying it's not that impossible to do. Goodell will probably destroy the balls and release a presser that says the Patriots have earned the benefit of the doubt. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Goodell's public statement: "After thoroughly inspecting the football's used last weekend by the Patriots and Colts, it was determined that 11 out of 12 balls the Patriots provided were underinflated in accordance with NFL rules. It was also verified and determined that 11 out of the 12 balls used by the Colts were underinflated as well. After discussions with 9 highly renowned, unbiased scientists from the World Meterology Consortium, it has been concluded that the cold, rainy weather was solely responsible for the under-inflated footballs used in that game. Therefore, the NFL has determined no violations of league rules has ever occured. Enjoy the great upcomming Super Bowl." you know if this actually happens, you are DEAD MEAT. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 No, the point is all teams do it. 1. Haha this is such a lie. Jets fans are so jealous smdh. 2. Ok fine but it was just the weather. Colts balls are probs the same. 3. Whatever. All teams do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Come on dude. Just cross out JiF and write Colts instead. not that hard,. The jokes just kind of write themselves with this story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Jerry Rice ✔ @JerryRice Follow 11 of 12 balls under-inflated can anyone spell cheating!!! #Just Saying That hurts. Way to Go Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 No, the point is all teams do it. Apparently, the Colts didn't this past Sunday. And if if they did , they didn't get caught cheating like the Pasteriks have now twice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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