Larz Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 And the conspiracy arguments continue. Too funny. how would you describe the patsfan.com theories about the mob ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Sorry just quoting the Wall Street Journal and scientific stats. Is that funny? Didnt you know that science is a jealous Jets fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Sorry just quoting the Wall Street Journal and scientific stats. Is that funny? And scientific data also says that PSI pressure drops in cold, damp weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 And scientific data also says that PSI pressure drops in cold, damp weather. that damn 12th ball always getting in the way of a lame ignorant excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What about the colt footballs? Weather resistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 All you need to know about Kraft and Pats Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch · 45m45 minutes ago New issue of GQ has a feature on Goodell in which unnamed NFL exec says RG and Kraft are so tight, Kraft is called "assistant commissioner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 that damn 12th ball always getting in the way of a lame ignorant excuse OK, that was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 All you need to know about Kraft and Pats Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch · 45m45 minutes ago New issue of GQ has a feature on Goodell in which unnamed NFL exec says RG and Kraft are so tight, Kraft is called "assistant commissioner." If that's the case, shame on the other 31 owners for going along with it. They're going to make their money anyway, with or without Goodell so why don't they tell Goodell and/or Kraft to cut it out for the good of the league perception. Despite no smoking gun(that is known) there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to show that somebody in that organization either deflated the balls manually or blew them up in a warm environment with the intent to cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 If that's the case, shame on the other 31 owners for going along with it. They're going to make their money anyway, with or without Goodell so why don't they tell Goodell and/or Kraft to cut it out for the good of the league perception. Despite no smoking gun(that is known) there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to show that somebody in that organization either deflated the balls manually or blew them up in a warm environment with the intent to cheat. Yes blowing them up with hot air, would be cheating for sure, as the intent is PSI will drop quicker in cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The Advanced NFL Stat guys also notice a trend. Right after the 2007 rule change that allows teams to use their own balls at away games, the Patriots** fumble a lot less! Thats impossible, Bill has been coaching New England* since 2000, did he start coaching ball security in 2007? So obvious that they have been altering the balls since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Well coached football teams know the importance of ball security. Another great job by BB and his staff. Another home job by BB and his staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Anyone remember this game? Pats 59 Titans 0. You tell me what you see. Let me give you a bit of recap. Turnovers Titans 5 Pats 0 Fumbles Titans 3 (all lost) Pats 0 Interceptions Titans 2 Pats 0 Passing Titans -7 yards (Minus 7 yards) Pats 426 yards Yards per play Titans 3.7 Patriots 8 Rushing Titans 193 Pats 193 Yards per rush Titans 5.4 Pats 6.4 Passing attempts Titans 14 Patriots 45 4th down efficiency (Let me again mind you, the Patriots won this game 59-0) Titans 0-2 Pats 1-3 Passing 1st downs (This is just ridiculous) Titans 1 Pats 21 Rushing 1st downs Titans 6 Pats 9 Now for the kicker Kerry Collins 2-17 for -7 yards and 1 int Vince Young 0-2 for 0 yards and 1 int. Tom Brady 29-34 for 380 yards 6 TD's 0 Ints. Brian Hoyer 9-11 for 52 yards. Tom Brady in the 2nd Qtr threw 5 TD's. Thats a record for the most passing TD's by a QB in NFL history. Everything that involved rushing is relatively close. Everything passing, forget about it. The Titans QB could barely maintain control of the ball from under Center meanwhile the Pats are doing flea flickers for their first 40 yard completion....IN THE SNOW. Now if anyone remember our last blizzard game (Eagles/Lions) which was a great game by the way, check out that game recap below. It looks like they may have played in the f'ing snow. Both QB's had a problem maintaining the ball with both fumbling. Both threw for under 200 yards. Matter of fact, Brady threw for more yards and TD's than all three QB's combined across both games and threw for about as many attempts as Folk and Stanford combined. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013120805/2013/REG14/lions@eagles#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000296368&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Pathetic. I thought the media that covered actual news was terrible, the sports media is worse whether we root for the Pats or the Jets, it's safe to say are all die hards on this forum. Big football fans. We have been pummeled with stories about spouse abuse, concussion, child beating, dog fighting, bathroom raping... what is or isn't a catch... etc. This doctoring of a football story seems tame and nice compared to all that this story is for non football fans. People who don't know the game at all watch the Super Bowl and now my mom is asking about PSI. that's the kind of story this is. It's huge. blaming the media for covering of the biggest stories in the country? Cmon. It's not a conspiracy. It's entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Pats press conference announced for 2:30 hasn't started yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Anyone remember this game? You tell me what you see. Let me give you a bit of recap. Turnovers Titans 5 Pats 0 Fumbles Titans 3 (all lost) Pats 0 Interceptions Titans 2 Pats 0 Passing Titans -7 yards (Minus 7 yards) Pats 426 yards Yards per play Titans 3.7 Patriots 8 Rushing Titans 193 Pats 193 Yards per rush Titans 5.4 Pats 6.4 Passing attempts Titans 14 Patriots 45 4th down efficiency (Let me again mind you, the Patriots won this game 59-0) Titans 0-2 Pats 1-3 Passing 1st downs (This is just ridiculous) Titans 1 Pats 21 Rushing 1st downs Titans 6 Pats 9 Everything that involved rushing is relatively close. Everything passing, forget about it. The Titans QB could barely maintain control of the ball from under Center meanwhile the Pats are doing flea flickers for their first 40 yard completion....IN THE SNOW. Now if anyone remember our last blizzard game (Eagles/Lions) which was a great game by the way, check out that game recap below. It looks like they may have played in the f'ing snow. Both QB's had a problem maintaining the ball with both fumbling. Both threw for under 200 yards. Matter of fact, Brady threw for more yards and TD's than all three QB's combined across both games and threw for about as many attempts as Folk and Stanford combined. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013120805/2013/REG14/lions@eagles#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000296368&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore VTF check out the stats for Pats/Bears that was played in a blizzard. I cant remember the year. Brady was throwing the ball all over the place, this game changed my opinion on him, at the time I said dam he really is good.. now we know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Thats impossible, Bill has been coaching New England* since 2000, did he start coaching ball security in 2007? So obvious that they have been altering the balls since then. It's not impossible by any means. It's clear the Patriots have been using deflated ball since the rule change in 2007. Prior to 2007, the home team supplied all game balls. The Pats** would not have risked using a deflated ball for their home games before 2007 because the other would have handled used them and probably would have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Bill Polian was awesome this morning on Sirius He also explained that a deflated football also helps relieve arm fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 They would beat the test easily. Kraft has Michael "Mickey Scars" DiLeonardo on the payroll for situations just like this. He couldnt pass a lie detector test if his life depended on it, a born liar and cheat the damn machine would go haywire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 It's not impossible by any means. It's clear the Patriots have been using deflated ball since the rule change in 2007. Prior to 2007, the home team supplied all game balls. The Pats** would not have risked using a deflated ball for their home games before 2007 because the other would have handled used them and probably would have noticed. Thats what I meant, its obvious something changes in 2007. They have been messing with the balls since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 VTF check out the stats for Pats/Bears that was played in a blizzard. I cant remember the year. Brady was throwing the ball all over the place, this game changed my opinion on him, at the time I said dam he really is good.. now we know why I'll go check it out now. Another outrageous stat on this game. Tom Brady threw 5 TD's in the 2nd Qtr. No QB has ever thrown for as many TD's in 1 qtr. Also... These are the stats for the QB's in that game. Kerry Collins 2-17 for -7 yards and 1 int Vince Young 0-2 for 0 yards and 1 int. Tom Brady 29-34 for 380 yards 6 TD's 0 Ints. Brian Hoyer 9-11 for 52 yards. To now hear about the deflation of footballs it puts so much in perspective when looking at past games in inclement weather conditions. Tom Brady is a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The whole time we thought he was just an amazing 6th round QB. Now we see how a 6th rounder becomes a HOF QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Belicheat announces that the team has followed every rule to the letter. Has talked to everyone and done an internal study. Feel is most important. They are finalized and given to the refs. Pressure is hard to idntify by feel. They simulated a game-day situation. The process they do raises psi by one pound. Officials are then asked to get them to 12.5. Don't know what the officials do or did. When they go on the field they are no longer in a controlled process. When they tested they went down 1.5. When the brought them back in they went up half a pound. He is claiming they are affected by the environment. Process in test resulted in them going down to 11.5. Not sure what the f he is talking about. Gauges can be different. Variance there. All balls are different. I feel i am about to OD on BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Belicheat announces that the team has followed every rule to the letter. Has talked to everyone and done an internal study. Feel is most important. They are finalized and given to the refs. Pressure is hard to idntify by feel. They simulated a game-day situation. The process they do raises psi by one pound. Officials are then asked to get them to 12.5. Don't know what the officials do or did. When they go on the field they are no longer in a controlled process. When they tested they went down 1.5. When the brought them back in they went up half a pound. He is claiming they are affected by the environment. Process in test resulted in them going down to 11.5. Not sure what the f he is talking about. Gauges can be different. Variance there. All balls are different. I feel i am about to OD on BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Nothing new really. He is just trying to suggest that it was atmospheric and they did nothing. Says qbs couldnt tell the difference of one lb and in most cases 2 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Belichick: "Best team in the postseason" Thank you for pissing off the Seahawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 He's embarassed about the time he has put into it. Says he's not the Monalisa Vito of the football game. (Cousin Vinny reference). Says they followed the rule and did nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 This press conference is freaking awesome!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Says he will not talk about it again (big surprise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 "im not a scientist or a league official" LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 TBH, this has been the most animated press conference I've seen from Belichick. He looks pissed. Either he's a great actor or he didn't know about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Nice try, Belicheat...It ain't going away, scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Thats what I meant, its obvious something changes in 2007. They have been messing with the balls since then. Sorry man. I misread what you wrote. My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 THIS IS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!! If you take the ball in and then take the ball out and then take the ball in, anyone can do those experiments. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 TBH, this has been the most animated press conference I've seen from Belichick. He looks pissed. Either he's a great actor or he didn't know about this. is there a new press conference going on now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yea, ok Bill, we believe you...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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