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It hasn't been mentioned, because it doesn't exist. It's yet another perfect example, however, of how many Jets fans twist the truth into what they want to hear, instead of what actually ocurred. The video shows the ball boy going into the men's room for 90 seconds. Not "handling the footballs".

Occums razor.  There is no explanation for how the balls became deflated, especially that the pats did but the colts didn't.  You trace back the chain of events and choose the most likely scenario.

 

Now you can quickly say there was no conclusive proof that the ball boy did anything due to no video.  This would be valid if the NFL and the commissioner had not gone out of their way and set a precedent  in the Saints case and the 'there is no excuse for ignorance' comment.

 

In addition if a person is hanging onto the notion of no proof presented then whey is Hernandez in jail and not playing for the Pats right now?  He has been convicted of nothing.  There has only been suspicion of wrong doing by evidence presented.  He has not been convicted.

 

There is no way the offending person will point a finger at the big boys in this case and he will probably deny any wrong doing at all.  The whole key to the chain of events is how much pressure can be applied to this individual.  If it some how, some day comes down to the guy having to give a statement under oath things may change in a big way.

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  If it some how, some day comes down to the guy having to give a statement under oath things may change in a big way.

 

 

Wait a second, for the entire week Jets fans have been clamoring that this is not a court of law and Goodell can do anything he wants.

 

Now you saying for all the facts to come out, the guy needs to be served a subpena and testify under oath???????

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Wait a second, for the entire week Jets fans have been clamoring that this is not a court of law and Goodell can do anything he wants.

 

Now you saying for all the facts to come out, the guy needs to be served a subpena and testify under oath???????

Yes, the reason?  He can lie his ass off or say nothing to joe blow security analyst for the NFL.  If he has to be under oath there is a thing called perjury and all that goes with it and that tends to open up the tight lips of people who would otherwise cover for others. 

 

Goodell still has to look at the evidence of that the balls were changed, when and how up for question but he has previous painted himself into a corner by suspending New Orelans personnel.

 

We can only hope some NFL fan decides to sue over this and at least gets enough traction to make the guy make a statement.  It's like one of the episodes of your previous cheating, it stook some time and some pressure before the dude doing the taping fessed up.

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Wait a second, for the entire week Jets fans have been clamoring that this is not a court of law and Goodell can do anything he wants.

 

Now you saying for all the facts to come out, the guy needs to be served a subpena and testify under oath???????

 

So why do you think this ball attendant (allegedly and on video) did what he did to the balls?

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-investigation-into-deflate-gate-centers-in-on-patriots-attendant-204937583.html

 

 

Report: NFL investigation into deflate-gate centers in on Patriots attendant

 

Glazer writes that the NFL has interviewed the attendant and, per Glazer's sources, possess video of the attendant's actions. The league is still trying to determine if there was any wrongdoing that happened, but the attendant is considered to be a "strong person of interest" in the investigation.

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Wait a second, for the entire week Jets fans have been clamoring that this is not a court of law and Goodell can do anything he wants.

 

Now you saying for all the facts to come out, the guy needs to be served a subpena and testify under oath???????

 

not what he said at all.  you are out of bullets.

 

 I guess shooting blanks should come as naturally for you as liying is for the past* players and coaches

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LOL

 

Of course a minimum pay bathroom attendant would take it on himself to manipulate the psi in the game balls.  Why not?  After all last time it was a rouge camera man who took the illegal pictures.

 

Hard to find good help in Boston

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Or exchange properly weighted balls for lighter balls that Brady prefers?

 

True.  However, there should be another video were another guy goes in with the other batch of balls.

 

 

It's not all that difficult. 

 

 

Granted.  It does look easy, but it was ~10 seconds with him holding the ball.  Not grabbing ball out of bag, inserting into ball pressing it 1 or 2 times down to the preferred level, repeat process 10 more times.

 

Possible?  Sure, but if the guy was in there 5 minutes that would be one thing.  90 seconds?  Not so much.

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Wait a second, for the entire week Jets fans have been clamoring that this is not a court of law and Goodell can do anything he wants.

 

Now you saying for all the facts to come out, the guy needs to be served a subpena and testify under oath???????

Just wondering.  If the Seahawks route the Pats this week, do you become Hawks Fan Tex?

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True.  However, there should be another video were another guy goes in with the other batch of balls.

 

 

 

Granted.  It does look easy, but it was ~10 seconds with him holding the ball.  Not grabbing ball out of bag, inserting into ball pressing it 1 or 2 times down to the preferred level, repeat process 10 more times.

 

Possible?  Sure, but if the guy was in there 5 minutes that would be one thing.  90 seconds?  Not so much.

True, but the balls were deflated, unless you buy the Belichick garbage. And maybe he could do it so quickly becaus of experience , let's say., 7 years?

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Francesa giving Kraft credit. By coming out so blatantly and aggressively, he put the media on  the backfoot and they are receding

 

the homer crowd from yesterday ?  LOL

 

I'll give kraft credit when he faces the international press at media day and answers tough questions

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Allegedly, some little birdy must have told him.

 

Thankfully, birds do not play for the Patriots.

 

they didn't work for sean payton either

 

there is clear precedent that the HC is responsible for everything

 

that's like legal sh*t

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Appreciated, but indulge me.

 

Why do you think an NFL Attendant would alter game balls (allegedly)?

 

 

Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

 

 

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

 

Hell, this conspiracy theory has more legs than the foolish ones thrown around by Jets fans all week.

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

In such a case, the paid-off ballboy will shortly roll on the Ravens for immunity from prosecution, and the issue will be settled.

 

Of course, we both know that's most likely not what happened.

 

Occam's Razor being what it is.

 

I'm curious, to whom do you credit the Patriots amazing ball-control skills to on their staff?  Who, in your view, is primarily responsible for teaching Pats players how to not fumble so well that it's almost unprecedented, and was so vital to that teaching that players who left his tutelage went back to fumbling at normal "average" amounts?

 

 

Hell, this conspiracy theory has more legs than the foolish ones thrown around by Jets fans all week.

 

Seems you're rather comfortable with speculation after all.

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

it was the mob silly

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

dang, I thought for sure Mangini was going to be in there somewhere

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

Wait, so in your brain you'd be more willing to believe this than the fact that your 6th round, weak-armed QB needed to cheat to play good football his whole career?

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Ok. I'll play. Because the Ravens, still butthurt from losing, complained to the league which they knew would cause them to check the balls in the Indy game. They then paid off a minimum wage ball attendant to deflate the balls, thus causing the hysteria that has followed.

 

 

Wow. Conspiracy theories are FUN!

 

This has been going on for a lot longer than that, infiltration by other teams have presented this to the league since during the season, including the first Colts game.  It seems to me that the league has been preparing for this for a while, and used the playoffs to catch them off guard.

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True, but the balls were deflated, unless you buy the Belichick garbage. And maybe he could do it so quickly becaus of experience , let's say., 7 years?

No doubt. Probably had it down to a science, 5 clicks on each ball at the same pressure of click and at 7 seconds a ball you got 11 done in 80 seconds

Just like the pit crew in a Nascar race can change 2 tires in about 20 seconds.

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Hell, this conspiracy theory has more legs than the foolish ones thrown around by Jets fans all week.

You two chumps really need to get a life...Go enjoy your Super Bowl week...If you were really the fans you say you are you'd be in Phoenix instead of trolling our messageboards like losers.

If this is all so ridiculous why are you even entertaining the subject?

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Occam's Razor being what it is.

 

I'm curious, to whom do you credit the Patriots amazing ball-control skills to on their staff?  Who, in your view, is primarily responsible for teaching Pats players how to not fumble so well that it's almost unprecedented, and was so vital to that teaching that players who left his tutelage went back to fumbling at normal "average" amounts?

 

 
 

 

Occam's Razor being what it is, I credit BB. ( as opposed to some conspiracy over 2 lbs. psi making nearly impossible to fumble a football).....MANY NFL players have stated they can't tell the diffence, while others disagreed, but all you Jets fans, who've never once felt a regulataion NFL football, say it's easy to tell) Me? I've seen plenty of fumbles, many at the worst possible time while watching the Pats play. And you notice what almost always happens to the offending player? He's taken out of the game immediately and frequently doesn't see any more game actions of several series if not games. So I'll go with the simplest answer, good coaching (and fear) and not some elaborate conspiracy is at play.

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Occam's Razor being what it is, I credit BB. ( as opposed to some conspiracy over 2 lbs. psi making nearly impossible to fumble a football).....MANY NFL players have stated they can't tell the diffence, while others disagreed, but all you Jets fans, who've never once felt a regulataion NFL football, say it's easy to tell) Me? I've seen plenty of fumbles, many at the worst possible time while watching the Pats play. And you notice what almost always happens to the offending player? He's taken out of the game immediately and frequently doesn't see any more game actions of several series if not games. So I'll go with the simplest answer, good coaching (and fear) and not some elaborate conspiracy is at play.

 

You're adorable. 

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This has been going on for a lot longer than that, infiltration by other teams have presented this to the league since during the season, including the first Colts game.  It seems to me that the league has been preparing for this for a while, and used the playoffs to catch them off guard.

 

 

But I thought Kraft had Gooddell in his pocket. Yet he orchestrated this to catch them cheating at the most embarrassing time possible? Which is it Rah Rah.

 

 

Seems like you're talking outta both sides of your mouth again. One thing you can be sure of, without all those losses, the jets had a pretty good season. Amiright?

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