The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spjsearch0110,0,3338180,print.story?coll=ny-jets-bigpix Jets will talk to young Mangini Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 god's speed bradway, bring back our coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee_Jet Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Unfortunately, I just can't see Mangini leaving NE. I think Kraft will offer a hefty raise along with an Asst. Head Coach title and BB will poison the Jets by telling him "you don't want to work for Woody." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Unfortunately, I just can't see Mangini leaving NE. I think Kraft will offer a hefty raise along with an Asst. Head Coach title and BB will poison the Jets by telling him "you don't want to work for Woody."the guy is from the new york area and it's hard to turn down a head coaching job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This would be a good hire for us. Plus it would weaken the Pats and BB staff at the same time. It's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Money and title aside, Kraft would have to get the guy blown on a nightly basis to get him to turn down a HC slot to be in BB's shadow again. No coach is going to turn down a HC slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Money and title aside, Kraft would have to get the guy blown on a nightly basis to get him to turn down a HC slot to be in BB's shadow again. No coach is going to turn down a HC slot. Especially @ 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Mac Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 TB heading to NE? Our troubles are over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 TB heading to NE? Our troubles are over!GO RU!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 TB heading to NE? Our troubles are over! Not over. You climb a mountain 1 step at a time. This would be a good 1st step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJermaineFromQnz Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This is the only thing that will keep me off the ledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I have a question regarding this potential hire. Do the Jets have to wait for the Pats to get eliminated from the playoffs or could they hire him on the spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This would be a good hire for us. Plus it would weaken the Pats and BB staff at the same time. It's a no brainer. I agree. Just look at what Mangini has done with that secondary this season...incrediable. He's a good coach. I hope he's the guy if not Fassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I have a question regarding this potential hire. Do the Jets have to wait for the Pats to get eliminated from the playoffs or could they hire him on the spot? They have to wait until the Pats are eliminated this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I stopped reading this article when I realized that Bradway was coming back from New England. I thought maybe he was leaving us as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 They have to wait until the Pats are eliminated this weekend. Thanks Max...and they will be eliminated this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Unfortunately, I just can't see Mangini leaving NE. I think Kraft will offer a hefty raise along with an Asst. Head Coach title and BB will poison the Jets by telling him "you don't want to work for Woody." But Belicheck didn't work a day in his life for Woody... so how the hell would he know. Woody was just finalizing the deal when he left. Belicheck cited uncertainty in ownership for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Hopefully Terry's closing skills have improved since the Antoine Winfield incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 TB heading to NE? Our troubles are over! I hope he's using bread crumbs and not pebbles, to find his way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This could potentially be the second blow dealt Boston's way...first Damon, now Mangini! It helps us and hurts them at the same time! Good luck Bradway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Money and title aside, Kraft would have to get the guy blown on a nightly basis to get him to turn down a HC slot to be in BB's shadow again. No coach is going to turn down a HC slot. Guns, the more I thought about your post, the more I tend to agree. If Bradway offers this guy the HC job and he refuses, then this will send a message to all the league that we are indeed a joke of an organization. To turn down a HC job at the age of 35 will have a ripple effect from years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Mike and th Mad Dog brought up an excellent point last night on WFAN. Mike said there are only two reasons Mangini doesn't take this job. One is BB poisening his mind about the Jets organization. Which Mike said he does not see happening and that the Jets are a great organization in a great city. I agree with this. The second reason is that he would have to face Saban and BB twice a year each. If he doesn't want the job for the second reason then I'm not sure I want him as a coach. If h is not confident enough that he can beat these guys than he will not be a very good HC anyway. They also went on to say that people were saying the same thing about Cleveland and Cinci a couple of years ago that they are saying about the Jets now. The bottom line is Mangini is from CT and there are only 3 jobs where he can stay close to home with. Also, lets face it none of the open vacencies are very attractive. Would anyone rather have the Minn, Det or NO job than the JEts job? The Jets job is a great job and the Jets have had some bad luck but each one of those situations was different and do not dictate how good of a job this really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 The one negative about Mangini - he is absolutely RAW on offense. If you hire Mangini - it is imperative that you keep 'Dinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 The one negative about Mangini - he is absolutely RAW on offense. If you hire Mangini - it is imperative that you keep 'Dinger. IDK if that is totally true Garb. I mean I agree he is raw but not as raw as some like Herm, ect. He was the offensive quality control person for cleveland and baltimore in which thy set quite a few offensive records in 1996. IMO, like I stated earlier I can see a Mike Tice come in as well as a assistant HC/OL Coach and Dinger staying on if the Jets get Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I HOPE we get mangini and elevate Heimer to asst. Head Coach. Keep Donnnie and we're light years ahead of last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Ahh....you forget that over-exaggerated muscle all men have: egos. Tice second fiddle to a 35 year old? How does 'Dinger feel about this? Won't Mangini want to evaluate the staff, tweak it, and make it his own? How this unfolds should be very interesting..... IDK if that is totally true Garb. I mean I agree he is raw but not as raw as some like Herm, ect. He was the offensive quality control person for cleveland and baltimore in which thy set quite a few offensive records in 1996. IMO, like I stated earlier I can see a Mike Tice come in as well as a assistant HC/OL Coach and Dinger staying on if the Jets get Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Ahh....you forget that over-exaggerated muscle all men have: egos. Tice second fiddle to a 35 year old? How does 'Dinger feel about this? Won't Mangini want to evaluate the staff, tweak it, and make it his own? How this unfolds should be very interesting..... I agree it will be interesting. Bradway made it clear on 1050 ESPN Radio last night that the staff will be reviewed with the new HC and it made it sound like the new HC gets the last word on who stays and goes both personel and coaching wise. My money says that if Mike Tice has no other job he wouldn't mind getting this gig close to home and who wouldn't want a offensive line coach with HC experience on thier staff. The last thing is jmo though. Wtf knows what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't see Dinger staying. First off, who is our opening day QB? Dinger was handcuffed all season with our inept offense...this is a "downfield" coordinator and it showed all season long. He's lost in the offense we gave him to work with. So, unless Penny grows a bionic arm over the offseason, I don't see Dinger here...he'll be taking Henderson out the door most likely also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't see Dinger staying. First off, who is our opening day QB? Dinger was handcuffed all season with our inept offense...this is a "downfield" coordinator and it showed all season long. He's lost in the offense we gave him to work with. So, unless Penny grows a bionic arm over the offseason, I don't see Dinger here...he'll be taking Henderson out the door most likely also. Where is he going? Offenses take 2 years atleast to implement so I can't see him going someplace and starting over. The Jets will get him the players he needs. We have lots of trade ammo and can get this cap manageable according to Bradway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 ....you have to wonder what Mangini is thinking about regarding the QB position, you know? It has to be somehwat unsettling to go from a future hall of famer in Tom Brady to Penne Pasta Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 ....you have to wonder what Mangini is thinking about regarding the QB position, you know? It has to be somehwat unsettling to go from a future hall of famer in Tom Brady to Penne Pasta Boy. Garb brings up a valid point. While I think landing the job of HC would overpower this, this is a valid concern. Does Mangini look at the Jets situation, specilly given TB's comments that the Jets aren't rebuilding, and are making a run next year, and day F it? I think TB has to go in there and tell him, this is your team, establish your system, let's get you players and make it happen by 2007. Saban was brilliant in how he approached the 06 season and it paid dividends. If TB expects the Jets to rally for the division again, given Penny, Martin and that OL, Mangini may be inclined to decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Money and title aside, Kraft would have to get the guy blown on a nightly basis to get him to turn down a HC slot to be in BB's shadow again. No coach is going to turn down a HC slot. I agree 100%. Kraft and BB will have no say in Mangini's decision. The only way the Jets can screw this up is if Woody and Bradway severly low-ball him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Unfortunately, I just can't see Mangini leaving NE. I think Kraft will offer a hefty raise along with an Asst. Head Coach title and BB will poison the Jets by telling him "you don't want to work for Woody." eventually u have to make your own mark,, belly had to finally leave parcells shadow and i am sure mangini know sthat also,, plus, a bad year here an dthere and he isnt so hot all off a sudden,, not many opportunities arise to coch in your hometown,, i think this is a slam dunk,, will he be successful? who knows, but i thoink its a slam dunk we hire him,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 OK. So he is under Belichicks wing for 10+ years, but what else has he ever done? Can he manage the clock? Is he a good teacher? Will he run a well disciplined team? Can he help retool our Oline and teach them well? I got yes answers for all those questions....from Kirk Ferentz. Who actually has head coaching experience, runs a well disciplined team, knows how to build an Oline, and must be a good teacher from what he has done with all the great things in his Iowa football program. How do we know for sure that Mangini will be a good HC, and that he might be nothing more than a great DBs coach. Last time I checked, the patriots defense fell off from last year in a big way, and Mangini was their new coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 OK. So he is under Belichicks wing for 10+ years, but what else has he ever done? Can he manage the clock? Is he a good teacher? Will he run a well disciplined team? Can he help retool our Oline and teach them well? I got yes answers for all those questions....from Kirk Ferentz. Who actually has head coaching experience, runs a well disciplined team, knows how to build an Oline, and must be a good teacher from what he has done with all the great things in his Iowa football program. ya, ferentz is my 1st choice, but he is least likely to be hired cause he is demanding total control,, and obvioulsy woody is lettin bradway still run the GM show... How do we know for sure that Mangini will be a good HC, and that he might be nothing more than a great DBs coach. Last time I checked, the patriots defense fell off from last year in a big way, and Mangini was their new coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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