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Michael Sam apparently still wants to play in the NFL. I can't help but wonder if the reason he isn't playing now is really because he came out of the closet before being drafted???? 

 

If he  could actually help the Jets and contribute to a championship run, I would want him on the team. Hopefully he gets a legitimate shot to compete somewhere. 

 

 

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I think the whole coming out thing means no one wants the media circus. I think he can play though.

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a linebacker that can't run and hit on an NFL level

 

nah

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He's been given 2 chances. I don't think him being gay has anything to do with it. Some people were calling him a tweener before the draft anyway.

 

But I'm pretty sure Richardson was his roommate in college. Maybe some familiar faces would help? 

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He was a fringe prospect to begin with. The best thing he ever could have done for his career was come out.

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Michael Sam apparently still wants to play in the NFL. I can't help but wonder if the reason he isn't playing now is really because he came out of the closet before being drafted???? 

 

If he  could actually help the Jets and contribute to a championship run, I would want him on the team. Hopefully he gets a legitimate shot to compete somewhere. 

I wish the best for him, though he should keep his private life private. I dont believe in the "You have to accept whatever people do without having an opinion on it" nonsense. Im not a hater, dude looks like he can play football...I just hope he keeps it football. If the media wants to ask him something regarding his personal life his answer should be "I'm at work". If he can do that, and he looks like a player at the combine, then the Jets could always use depth at the DE/LB position.   

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I have watched a lot of Missouri games, and this kid can get to the QB.  For a team like the Jets, that kid is worth a tryout.

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he can play but I think he should have waited before coming out I think he would be on a team if not for that

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Played on a stacked line at Missouri with Ealy, Sheldon and others. Undersized, only fits as a rush end in a 4-3 and not a key contributor on specials. 

 

the michael sam story is that he's not very good at football. 

 

maybe the only reason he got drafted at all was because the league didn't want to get sued if he didn't.  That was a savvy media move actually. He wasn't really on track to get drafted otherwise.

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Played on a stacked line at Missouri with Ealy, Sheldon and others. Undersized, only fits as a rush end in a 4-3 and not a key contributor on specials. 

 

the michael sam story is that he's not very good at football. 

 

maybe the only reason he got drafted at all was because the league didn't want to get sued if he didn't.  That was a savvy media move actually. He wasn't really on track to get drafted otherwise.

 

 

I think the opposite is true. Most stuff I read had him as a 5th rounder, Coming out might have scared some teams off. 

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Michael Sam, Richie Incognito, and Rex Ryan in the same locker room, working together. Yes. Oh sweet Jesus, yes.

The producers of Hard Knocks will be drooling over that.

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Sam just isn't that great of a football player, that's why he's not on an NFL team right now. 

 

In the 2013 season in which he won the defensive player of the year in the SEC (or was it co-player of the year, can't remember), he had 10.5 sacks in the regular season.  That's what people saw when he was voted into that award at the end of the year.  If you actually look at the statistics, most of those sacks came against fairly weak competition.  Six of those 10.5 sacks came in Week 4 and Week 5 against Arkansas State and Vanderbilt, respectively, and both of which Missouri absolutely crushed.

 

He got another 3 sacks against a Florida team that went 3-5 in the SEC and 4-8 overall.  Against good SEC competition that season, he managed just 1.5 sacks, with 1 against South Carolina and a half sack against Texas A&M towards the end of the regular season.  Just looking at his stats from that season, against good SEC competition (which is a decent barometer for what one will do in the NFL, or at least the best we have when judging college recruits) he tended to disappear whereas he played much better against decidedly weaker competition.

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Michael Sam, Richie Incognito, and Rex Ryan in the same locker room, working together. Yes. Oh sweet Jesus, yes.

 

This is a recipe for disaster.

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Michael Sam apparently still wants to play in the NFL. I can't help but wonder if the reason he isn't playing now is really because he came out of the closet before being drafted???? 

 

If he  could actually help the Jets and contribute to a championship run, I would want him on the team. Hopefully he gets a legitimate shot to compete somewhere. 

 

He can't.

 

He's not good enough.

 

And is has nothing to do with which genitalia he prefers.

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From the deadspin article:  "his life will be a reality show overseen by Oprah Winfrey, the queen of aspirational disingenuousness,"

 

WTF?????

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Is this to show that he's still interested in playing in the NFL? Or to showcase his athletic ability, because honestly, dudes slow and put up sh*tty numbers when he was prospect. Does he plan to impress NFL teams?

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Is this to show that he's still interested in playing in the NFL? Or to showcase his athletic ability, because honestly, dudes slow and put up sh*tty numbers when he was prospect. Does he plan to impress NFL teams?

 

I'm going to handle these questions one by one, because I don't think the answers are obvious at all and the gentleman presents some serious inquiry here.

 

1. No. This is not to show that he's interested in playing in the NFL. He is doing this because he doesn't want to play football this season.

2. No. It's not to show off his athletic ability. That is not what things like this are for, nor why players do them.

3. No. He does not plan to impress NFL teams. In fact, it's the opposite. He plans to (googles opposite of impress) disappoint them.

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Is this to show that he's still interested in playing in the NFL? Or to showcase his athletic ability, because honestly, dudes slow and put up sh*tty numbers when he was prospect. Does he plan to impress NFL teams?

What would be the point of showcasing his athletic ability if not to play in the NFL?  I can't think of anything else those combines can do for you.

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The very reason why this thread exists in lieu of the other players that may have applied is why he's probably out of football.  It's not that he's not an NFL caliber player, it's just that he's not worth the trouble because he's not a difference maker.   

 

1.  The media pressure is immense with him, pretty much every move he makes, every move the team makes around him is going to be reported, very similar to what we went through with Tebow.  "Hey, Sam beat his blocker today twice in a row, why was he taken out?"  or "Coaches seen yelling at Sam, singled him out, why?  His play or something more?"  Stupid story lines like these would start to creep up to the point that you have to treat him like royalty.  And his play on the field wasn't worth that much microscopical attention.

 

2.  To be a barrier breaker, you have to be exemplary.   You hear all these stories about how much pressure Jackie Robinson was under to perform well when he first broke into the league, because if he wasn't great (and just average) then the circus that surrounded him wasn't going to be worth it.  He had to be great, he had to be a star, or else it was going to fail.  It's by no chance that the color barrier was broken in baseball by a star.   Sam, isn't a star.  I think he played the timing of this extremely wrong.  There were some buzz that he may have fallen into the mid rounds before new broke about his sexual inclinations, but it wasn't projected to be this tough.  I think he over-estimated his value after winning SEC defensive player of the year (I think no one who won the award had been selected lower than the second round I believe, not 100% sure) so he felt he had the name to come out, and it backfired.  He was much better off keeping it quiet (teams doing their research would find out, but no team would be stupid enough to disclose that kind of information without risking media and fan backlash), hope to produce in the NFL, and THEN come out.  Had he established himself as someone important to an NFL team, all of this would've worked out better.  

 

3.  There is an extreme risk a team faces from a PR standpoint from taking on Sam.  It's not all rosy from a PR standpoint at all, about how the team is being progressive.  Half the team is composed of meatheads like Incognito that don't really know political correctness.  Imagine the backlash if someone like Incognito kept harassing Sam?  No one really even knew who the heck Jonathan Martin was, before the whole incident, and that became national news.  This guy is already in the national spotlight, something like that comes along, and it's a PR nightmare.  Coach under scrutiny for letting this happen, GM an idiot for bringing on whoever did the terrible deed, and the owner ashamed that his team resorted to such methods.  The Rams took a shot at him, and the media attention was overwhelming, and that meant anything that happened to him were going to be tied back to the Rams.   In this social media age, teams are having trouble trying to keep their knucklehead players from creating controversy, and this is going to be a whole lot of new headaches. 

 

He'll most likely get a tryout somewhere and then go to the CFL and do well.  

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Why would anyone want this guy? He's a tweener and will bring unneeded attention all for a football player that really isn't good.

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My guess is that he wants another shot at the combine to improve his numbers, and since last year gay marriage has become legal in several more states, so his sexual orientation is less of a possible issue in taking him than it was last year.  Acceptance is rapidly becoming the norm, instead of the exception.

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