Jet9 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Division rivals in the same stadium? Hmm. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472372/article/chargers-raiders-team-up-for-stadium-proposal-in-los-angeles?campaign=twitter_atn Add two more teams to the NFL-to-L.A. discussion. The San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders have joined together for a stadium proposal on a site in Carson, California, per two league sources. Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times first reported the news. Executive vice president of NFL ventures and business operations Eric Grubman was encouraged by the increase in available options for teams looking to relocate to Los Angeles. "In my opinion, the most important thing represented by the recently announced club-driven initiatives, is that the options available to present a viable L.A. solution have increased," Grubman told NFL Media. "No project is certain until all the issues have been worked out, and the owners have voted to move forward, but two potentially viable projects pushing ahead increases the probability that something could get done." The Chargers and Raiders released a joint statement Thursday evening explaining their proposal: » We have both been working in our home markets to find a stadium solution for many years, so far unsuccessfully. » We remain committed to continuing to work in our home markets throughout 2015 to try to find publicly acceptable solutions to the long-term stadium issue. » We also both understand and respect the NFL's relocation process, and we intend to adhere strictly to the relocation procedures that the League has set forth for Los Angeles. » In particular, we respect the right of the NFL's owners to decide on all Los Angeles-related relocation issues and understand that any relocation application that is filed for Los Angeles must obtain the approval of three-fourths of the NFL’s owners. » Both teams have kept the NFL owners' committee on Los Angeles, and the Commissioner, fully informed about our joint efforts. » We are pursuing this stadium option in Carson for one straightforward reason: If we cannot find a permanent solution in our home markets, we have no alternative but to preserve other options to guarantee the future economic viability of our franchises. » In short, for the remainder of 2015, we intend to move down two tracks simultaneously: -- On track one, we will continue to work in our home markets to find permanent stadium solutions that are publicly acceptable. -- On track two, we will work in Carson to preserve our options, and the future economic viability of our franchises, in the event that our efforts in our local markets fail. » Throughout this process we will respect the rules and procedures set forth by the League and defer completely to the ultimate decision of the NFL's owners. The NFL responded with a two-sentence statement: "We are in regular contact with all involved clubs. All clubs have been meeting their responsibilities to keep us informed," the league said. Grubman said a team in Los Angeles in 2016 isn't a guarantee. "I would not yet draw a conclusion that everything gets done, and certainly I would not agree that 2016 is a certainty," Grubman said. "There is no reason to slow things down or to speed things up. I believe the owners will vote to move forward when a good and sound proposal so presented, and Relocation Guidelines have been met. This is a potentially positive development, with lots more work to do." This proposal is the second to be announced in 2015 for Los Angeles, which has been without NFL football since the end of the 1994 season. St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke is part of a joint venture to build an 80,000-seat NFL stadium along with other retail, office and residential spaces on a Hollywood Park site in Inglewood, California, which was announced in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 What's even more weird is they're planning on calling it "Giants' Stadium". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 if it's sponsored by Farmers Insurance, visitors can sign a life insurance policy and their next of kin can cash it in the same day. Talk about efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 if it's sponsored by Farmers Insurance, visitors can sign a life insurance policy and their next of kin can cash it in the same day. Talk about efficient Lol. There's sure to be free MMA in the parking lot after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 A NFL game in 2017 Los Angeles. I'm just going to go ahead and assume that this will be actual Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This is a awesome posturing. Your move San Diego and Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Really good ploy to get their respected cities to get off their asses. Taxtpayers are about to take it up the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 i don't get it. isn't Carson, CA WAYYYY far away from Oakland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 What's even more weird is they're planning on calling it "Giants' Stadium". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Twenty years from now we will all look back and realize why Chargers fans are now extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 The Raiders would move out of the Afc to the NFC . SO THE Chargers and Raiders wouldn't be in the same division. If the Raiders moved out of AFc how could the Jets have to travel out there to play the Raiders, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This is a awesome posturing. Your move San Diego and Oakland. Agreed. The stadium in San Diego is in bad shape. a lot of times teams move for luxury boxes or other reasons, that is part of it here but your actual stadium is a million years old. San Diego needs to do something otherwise they are gonna lose the Chargers. Not sure about Oakland they should let them go to LA anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Twenty years from now we will all look back and realize why Chargers fans are now extinct. not sure you have to wait that long, check again in 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Eh, let em move. So long as no taxpayers are on the hook for a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Agreed. The stadium in San Diego is in bad shape. a lot of times teams move for luxury boxes or other reasons, that is part of it here but your actual stadium is a million years old. San Diego needs to do something otherwise they are gonna lose the Chargers. Not sure about Oakland they should let them go to LA anyway. Most people don't have much positive to say about the Chargers stadium. But those people in football media maybe biased as well. It would be interesting. It seems LA is in a good situation. Added to Chargers and Raiders there was some talk about the Rams owner being interested in LA and having bought some land already for that for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hey, if they want a "Joint" stadium they will probably have to put it in Colorado or Washington, no? But it sounds like a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Two OG AFL franchises. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Most people don't have much positive to say about the Chargers stadium. But those people in football media maybe biased as well. It would be interesting. It seems LA is in a good situation. Added to Chargers and Raiders there was some talk about the Rams owner being interested in LA and having bought some land already for that for purpose. Yeah, that's why there's all that talk in this press release about how they're in contact with the league office, complying with league rules, etc. The owner of the Rams is building a stadium, and looks like he plans on moving to LA whether the league likes it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yeah, that's why there's all that talk in this press release about how they're in contact with the league office, complying with league rules, etc. The owner of the Rams is building a stadium, and looks like he plans on moving to LA whether the league likes it or not. Yup that's what it looks like but i won't be surprised if this also is all part of posturing. I won't be surprised if St Louis owner is looking for newer digs to be publicly paid for by taxpayers in St Louis itself. So buy some land in California which usually is not a bad investment and have maximum leverage. From NFL's and Goddell's standpoint they do want a franchise in Los Angeles but at the same time they would want a franchise in the St Louis and San Diego markets as well BUT they sure as well want to use the LA area opportunity to maximize their leverage in cities like San Diego and St Louis. I am not sure about the viability of Oakland so i cannot comment on that but this joint proposal does sound like something that has the fingerprints of the NFL office all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Apparently the Edward Jones Dome (StL) is ranked very poorly among current stadiums. The insane part is that it's only been around 20 years. I'm also not sure why the Rams would want to move to California. It's a bankrupt state with insane taxes that keep going up. I realize St Louis is a baseball town, but you couldn't pay me to move my team, worth almost a billion dollars, to California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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