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By Glenn Naughton

 

While the rest of the NFL keeps a watchful eye on several big-name free agents, the New York Jets have two players of their own who are set to test the free agent market, albeit on a limited basis.  Nose Tackle Damon Harrison and Safety Jaiquawn Jarrett will both be free to shop their services as restricted free agents if and when they receive qualifying offers from Mike Maccagnan and company.  With plenty of cap room and no shortage of holes to fill, retaining Harrison and Jarrett should be on the Jets’ “to-do” list as free agency approaches.

Clearly the higher priority is Harrison who is called on to anchor the middle of the Jets three-man front in their 3-4 alignment. Signed in 2011 as an undrafted free agent out of William Penn, Harrison has emerged as one of the top players at his position in the NFL.  Rated as the league’s third-best run stuffing NT by PFF.com, the big man should be looking at a significant pay raise.  Given their cap situation and what is likely to be  high-demand for Harrison, a first round tender of just over $3 million (last year’s rate was $3.113) wouldn’t be out of the question if there are no plans for a long-term deal.

If the Jets are willing to take a risk (or a 2nd round pick) for Harrison, 2014’s figure of $2.187 million is likely to increase slightly, but would net them the second round pick of the signing team if he were to go elsewhere.

Meanwhile,  Jarrett showed off some of the traits that made him a second-round selection of the Philadelphia Eagles in 2011 out of Temple. After winning defensive player of the week honors against the Pittsburgh Steelers in week 10, Jarrett continued to perform well with increased playing time for the duration of the season.

If the Jets like what they see from Jarrett on film, another figure that will increase from last season but is still manageable was a qualifying offer of $1.431 million.  That would all but guarantee Jarrett’s return as any team matching the offer would be forced to surrender their second round selection to acquire his services as that tender requires the team adding the player to surrender their pick for the round in which the player was originally selected.

If the Jets wish to retain Jarrett at the lowest possible salary without receiving any compensation should he move on, last season’s minimum salary for “right of first refusal” offer only, was $1.323 million.

 

 

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Tag him with a 1st and simply leak it out to other teams that we might take a 2nd instead if it was a high 2nd. The extra $1M is negligible when we'll be starting with $65M in cap space, and particularly for such a good and popular player.

The Jets don't have to actually hold teams to a 1st just because he's tagged with a 1st. They can lower the demand if they like (i.e. if it's the #35 pick in the country and we say that's close enough for us).  Problem with a 2nd round tender is we might only get back the #58-62 pick. Sure we can match, but it might be a bad contract in some ways.

 

If a team with a bottom-5 pick was targeting a run-stuffing NT type, like Snacks, in round ONE then they would be wise to offer us their first for Snacks and lock him up at $4-5M/year instead of an unknown prospect for half that.  A low 1st round rookie may not be starter-quality for a while, let alone high end starter quality (which may never happen at all), on top of the chance a draftee is a full-on bust.

 

Unless it's a top 40-ish pick at worst, frankly, I'd rather pay the kid, lock him up for 4-5 years, and front-load the deal a bit. It's not like we don't have tons of cash we must spend this year. It's easy to wave his value off by mindlessly repeating the "it's a passing league now" stuff: teams still run the ball up the gut on short yardage >90% of the time, and this will not change (Bevell/Carroll getting cute in the superbowl notwithstanding). A run-stuffing beast like Snacks can easily be the difference between a handful of possession changes (not to mention goal line scores).

 

If we tag him with a 2nd and only get back like the #60 pick I'll be pissed.

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Jets should tag Harrison with a 2nd round tender and see if anyone is willing to offer a pick for him.

 

I'm split on this. I don't like the 2nd round tender for Snacks because I'm not interested in any playoff team jump in on this and hand us a late 2nd round pick. If it's an early 2nd round pick or maybe even somewhere in the middle I guess I'd give up Snacks and then focus on getting Ellis re-signed who I think has more upside and is the better player of the two. Just can't stay healthy.

 

What I do like about the 2nd round tender is that even if somebody does jump in, we still have an opportunity to match their offer. So it's not like we don't get a chance to keep him here even if we put a 2nd round tender on him.

 

Bowles just has to make a decision. Either put the 1st round tender on him and let Ellis walk, or put a 2nd round tender on him and try to re-sign Ellis as well. Or put the 2nd round tender on him, re-sign Ellis for sure long term and then try to trade Snacks or let him walk next season. We can't half-ass this thing. Like putting a 2nd round tender on Snacks and letting Ellis walk. If somebody gives up a 2nd rounder for Snacks then we're pretty much screwed. Unless we find a stud NT in the draft of course. Or we move Mo to NT. The possibilities are endless...

 

As for JJ, put a mid round or late round tender on him and keep him here.

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I'm split on this. I don't like the 2nd round tender for Snacks because I'm not interested in any playoff team jump in on this and hand us a late 2nd round pick. If it's an early 2nd round pick or maybe even somewhere in the middle I guess I'd give up Snacks and then focus on getting Ellis re-signed who I think has more upside and is the better player of the two. Just can't stay healthy.

 

What I do like about the 2nd round tender is that even if somebody does jump in, we still have an opportunity to match their offer. So it's not like we don't get a chance to keep him here even if we put a 2nd round tender on him.

 

Bowles just has to make a decision. Either put the 1st round tender on him and let Ellis walk, or put a 2nd round tender on him and try to re-sign Ellis as well. Or put the 2nd round tender on him, re-sign Ellis for sure long term and then try to trade Snacks or let him walk next season. We can't half-ass this thing. Like putting a 2nd round tender on Snacks and letting Ellis walk. If somebody gives up a 2nd rounder for Snacks then we're pretty much screwed. Unless we find a stud NT in the draft of course. Or we move Mo to NT. The possibilities are endless...

 

As for JJ, put a mid round or late round tender on him and keep him here.

Agree with a lot of this (see my post just above yours), but I'd much rather have Snacks by himself than Ellis plus a 2nd rounder plus another $3M/year in cap space.

 

Ellis isn't worthless horsesh*t himself, but he's also not a top 3 run stuffer in the league. And as you allude to, there's still a good chance he wouldn't make it through enough of a full season as the #1 NT to rank as such. Or maybe after 8-10 games 1st string he hits a wall and goes to sh*t just as the post-season (or qualifying for the post-season) approaches. Maybe not, but durability hasn't been his #1 quality so far.

 

I'd rather just lock up Harrison. But if we don't know his value in this market, or we can't lock him up before the deadline, then he has to get tagged with a 1st. We can always take less if we want to and it's easy to allow some things to be poorly-kept secrets (i.e. leak it to the other teams with top 10 picks in round 2).

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Agree with a lot of this (see my post just above yours), but I'd much rather have Snacks by himself than Ellis plus a 2nd rounder plus another $3M/year in cap space.

 

Ellis isn't worthless horsesh*t himself, but he's also not a top 3 run stuffer in the league. And as you allude to, there's still a good chance he wouldn't make it through enough of a full season as the #1 NT to rank as such. Or maybe after 8-10 games 1st string he hits a wall and goes to sh*t just as the post-season (or qualifying for the post-season) approaches. Maybe not, but durability hasn't been his #1 quality so far.

 

I'd rather just lock up Harrison. But if we don't know his value in this market, or we can't lock him up before the deadline, then he has to get tagged with a 1st. We can always take less if we want to and it's easy to allow some things to be poorly-kept secrets (i.e. leak it to the other teams with top 10 picks in round 2).

 

Snacks is the safer bet so I'd agree that since we do have a choice Snacks should be locked up long term. He's the best run stuffer in the game, he's young, he's a hard worker and he's as proven and reliable (skillwise & healthwise) as it gets. But if we have to "settle" for a 2nd round pick and Ellis I wouldn't complain.

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He's a 2-down player for the strongest unit on a 4-12 team. There's no universe in which he's more valuable than a 2nd-round pick.

 

If you say so. I think a known quantity, stud run-stopper that helps stuff the other team on 3rd & short, or at the goal line, is more valuable than a lower 2nd round pick (which is my objection to tagging him with a 2nd), that may or may not even pan out at any position. He's the type of player at that isn't appreciated until his lesser replacement is inserted and fails. The team's record last season is irrelevant, unless you are suggesting that Harrison is part of the cause.

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He's a 2-down player for the strongest unit on a 4-12 team. There's no universe in which he's more valuable than a 2nd-round pick.

You forget that we're presently in the universe where everything that is prefaced by I think and which can't be affirmatively disproved is equally valid as a matter of precious, important opinion.

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I just won a bet with "Arsis" and he got me a Richardson jersey. Tag him with a 1st rd. designation.

 

I'll be pissed if I'm stuck with a Richardson, Revis and Tebow jersey.

 

Enough is Enough!!!

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You forget that we're presently in the universe where everything that is prefaced by I think and which can't be affirmatively disproved is equally valid as a matter of precious, important opinion.

 

If you're done with this snooty babble, the entire NFL offseason and draft decisions are based on what individual GMs say "I think" in regards to, weighing opinions of players' perceived values relative to draft positions or costs or others available. The true objective absolutes in value comparisons are with the benefit of hindsight (like injury prediction) or in comparing between the absurd, like Aaron Rodgers vs Brooks Bollinger. Everything else is subjective (i.e. "I think"). 

 

If you think you can affirmatively prove or disprove the absolute worth of a 2nd round pick vs Damon Harrison, coming down on either side without any subjective opinion or rationalization, then have at it. Do present your theorem for us all.

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He's a 2-down player for the strongest unit on a 4-12 team. There's no universe in which he's more valuable than a 2nd-round pick.

 

If teams had known what he would be capable of they would have picked him in the top 10-15 somewhere. He's more dominant and easily better than most of the DT's drafted inside the top 15 the last few years.

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If you're done with this snooty babble, the entire NFL offseason and draft decisions are based on what individual GMs say "I think" in regards to, weighing opinions of players' perceived values relative to draft positions or costs or others available. The true objective absolutes in value comparisons are with the benefit of hindsight (like injury prediction) or in comparing between the absurd, like Aaron Rodgers vs Brooks Bollinger. Everything else is subjective (i.e. "I think").

If you think you can affirmatively prove or disprove the absolute worth of a 2nd round pick vs Damon Harrison, coming down on either side without any subjective opinion or rationalization, then have at it. Do present your theorem for us all.

What are you even talking about? I said it can't be disproven, so you challenge me to disprove it. Great work, dude.

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He's a 2-down player for the strongest unit on a 4-12 team. There's no universe in which he's more valuable than a 2nd-round pick.

 

I dunno. I think if we used a 2nd rounder on a player that turned out to be Snacks, I'd be cool with that.

 

But that's just my opinion, man.

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How can any of you even consider a 2nd rounder while letting a true quality player walk? Go back and look at the Jets' 2nd round picks over the last two decades, or more. The Jets probably have the worst 2nd round history in the league... by a mile.

Keep Snacks.

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Tag him with a 1st and simply leak it out to other teams that we might take a 2nd instead if it was a high 2nd. The extra $1M is negligible when we'll be starting with $65M in cap space, and particularly for such a good and popular player.

The Jets don't have to actually hold teams to a 1st just because he's tagged with a 1st. They can lower the demand if they like (i.e. if it's the #35 pick in the country and we say that's close enough for us).  Problem with a 2nd round tender is we might only get back the #58-62 pick. Sure we can match, but it might be a bad contract in some ways.

 

If a team with a bottom-5 pick was targeting a run-stuffing NT type, like Snacks, in round ONE then they would be wise to offer us their first for Snacks and lock him up at $4-5M/year instead of an unknown prospect for half that.  A low 1st round rookie may not be starter-quality for a while, let alone high end starter quality (which may never happen at all), on top of the chance a draftee is a full-on bust.

 

Unless it's a top 40-ish pick at worst, frankly, I'd rather pay the kid, lock him up for 4-5 years, and front-load the deal a bit. It's not like we don't have tons of cash we must spend this year. It's easy to wave his value off by mindlessly repeating the "it's a passing league now" stuff: teams still run the ball up the gut on short yardage >90% of the time, and this will not change (Bevell/Carroll getting cute in the superbowl notwithstanding). A run-stuffing beast like Snacks can easily be the difference between a handful of possession changes (not to mention goal line scores).

 

If we tag him with a 2nd and only get back like the #60 pick I'll be pissed.

 

Great post. He is a very good player, we have the cap room and need good players more than cap room. Tag him with a first and try to work out a deal. 

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So could I 

I could see it to and with a poison pill stating that he has to be the highest paid Def tackle on the team.  The NFL recognizes 3-4 def ends as tackles as they play inside the OT pads for tag purposes and awards etc. Wilfork would be cut and the next highest paid DT on the pats get paid 2 mill.  But on the jets it will make him over 7mill per year next year and when Wilk or harrison get paid so will he.  And the pats would only give up the 64th pick. They could sign him to a 4 year 18 mill contract with a low 1st year hit. 

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Who do you feel are similar players

 

Kendrick Ellis is UFA I doubt anyone gives up a 2nd for Snacks when a similar player is UFA

Who do you feel are the similar skill level players, Knighton? Way too expensive, my guess is 4 and 25. Rubyn Iguess is the closest in term of money and skill. if ellis and Snacks were close, why did ellis play 1 out of 8 snaps and harrison 1 out of  2.

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I can't begin to understand why people view Snacks as expendable, and Kenrick Ellis as his equal. Has everyone not been watching the Jets these past few seasons?? Kenrick is hurt every season, Snacks is one of the best NT in the league. We have 55-65 million in cap space, why take the only unit on the Jets that's perfect as it is, and screw it up by replacing Snacks with an injury prone, okay NT. What has Ellis shown you guys that makes you love and believe in him so much, that you would prefer to get rid of Snacks for a 2nd round pick?

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I can't begin to understand why people view Snacks as expendable, and Kenrick Ellis as his equal. Has everyone not been watching the Jets these past few seasons?? Kenrick is hurt every season, Snacks is one of the best NT in the league. We have 55-65 million in cap space, why take the only unit on the Jets that's perfect as it is, and screw it up by replacing Snacks with an injury prone, okay NT. What has Ellis shown you guys that makes you love and believe in him so much, that you would prefer to get rid of Snacks for a 2nd round pick?

 

PFF had Ellis rated extremely highly against the run a year or two ago.  I think the reason people would be willing to let Harrison walk has more to do with how highly they value a 2nd round pick than anything else.  My biggest concern with Ellis is that he has had back problems.  Big men with back problems don't usually improve.  It's not like getting your knee scoped.

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I can't begin to understand why people view Snacks as expendable, and Kenrick Ellis as his equal. Has everyone not been watching the Jets these past few seasons?? Kenrick is hurt every season, Snacks is one of the best NT in the league. We have 55-65 million in cap space, why take the only unit on the Jets that's perfect as it is, and screw it up by replacing Snacks with an injury prone, okay NT. What has Ellis shown you guys that makes you love and believe in him so much, that you would prefer to get rid of Snacks for a 2nd round pick?

Neither can I, some fans think that if you don't get sacks or flush the qb you have very little value. Harrison is a very good run defender and will give you 45 snaps a game. He is exactly what I would want the Pats to get in the 2nd.  Now he may see  Knighton get 7+,, or the 6+ that Solari got last year and not want to sign as a RFA with less leverage.   The only thing that you can say for letting him walk in return for a 2nd is that It will be tough to keep Wilk, Harrisson and Richardson together under the cap. 

The pats could not do it after a couple of year when they had Warren, Wilfork and Seymour, with Jarvis Green rotating. 

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Who do you feel are similar players

Who do you feel are the similar skill level players, Knighton? Way too expensive, my guess is 4 and 25. Rubyn Iguess is the closest in term of money and skill. if ellis and Snacks were close, why did ellis play 1 out of 8 snaps and harrison 1 out of 2.

Snacks and Ellis are both two-down run stuffers. This idea that someone is going to offer us a 2nd round pick for Snacks just cuz is homeritis.

The pats are in the market for a Nose to takeover for Wilfork. There's a better chance of Bill Cosby becoming the spokesperson for NOW than the pats giving the jets a pick to sign Snacks.

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