Doggin94it Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Marchall/Decker/Harvin/Kerley/Amaro or Marshall/Decker/Kerley/Draft Pick/Amaro Either way, and all locker room and risk issues aside (tought hough that is), WR would certainly not be a weak talent unit with that group. Harvin as #3/#4 Trickster >>> Harvin as #1/#2 Starting WR. But boy oh boy, while the talent is there, is there a more disaster-potential WR group than one with Marshall AND Harvin? Risk/Reward, I suppose. If the price was a 5th, and we're not locked in long-term, seems a very smart short-term whilst-we-have-space/cash deal for while the team rebuilds. Harvin's a goner - no chance you pay 10M and a high 4th to a 3/4/trickster. This is the "get a replacement first" strategy I was talking about in the Harvin thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 1. The GM said he had input in who was going to start at QB. From Day 1. 2. Who signed David Garrard and Michael Vick? When those are your options, why not start Geno? 3. When you don't have QB you take the next best 1? They why didn't they take Bridgewater, Carr, Garoppolo or even Manziel? Here's my reply: Do you know for a fact that Idzik didn't tell the staff that Geno wasn't ready ? I don't, but I knew he wasn't ready to start in a WCO, not even knowing how to take snaps from under center. Don't know . I would have drafted Bridgewater over Calvin Pryor in a N Y minute and twice on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yeah, it's his 4th team in 7 years for no other reason than everyone else is just dumb. Dude who the **** cares how many teams he has been on? WHAT WAS HIS PRODUCTION Especially his LAST team??? In case you are wondering here it is... now I ask you; WHO could we get for a 5th rounder with this production?? Keep in mind he was hurt last year. Year Receiving Rushing Fumb. KO Ret Punt Ret Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD 2006 DEN 15 20 309 20.6 15.5 0 2 2 12 .8 6.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2007 DEN 16 102 1325 82.8 13.0 4 7 5 57 3.6 11.4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2008 DEN 15 104 1265 84.3 12.2 3 6 2 -4 -.3 -2.0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 2009 DEN 15 101 1120 74.7 11.1 3 10 7 39 2.6 5.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2010 MIA 14 86 1014 72.4 11.8 4 3 2 3 .2 1.5 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2011 MIA 16 81 1214 75.9 15.0 5 6 1 13 .8 13.0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2012 CHI 16 118 1508 94.3 12.8 7 11 1 -2 -.1 -2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2013 CHI 16 100 1295 80.9 13.0 6 12 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 -8 0 0 0 2014 CHI 13 61 721 55.5 11.8 2 8 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 How anyone can complain about this is totally beyond me..... 5th round pick people!!!!! smdh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Dude who the **** cares how many teams he has been on? WHAT WAS HIS PRODUCTION Especially his LAST team??? In case you are wondering here it is... now I ask you; WHO could we get for a 5th rounder with this production?? Keep in mind he was hurt last year. Year Receiving Rushing Fumb. KO Ret Punt Ret Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD 2006 DEN 15 20 309 20.6 15.5 0 2 2 12 .8 6.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2007 DEN 16 102 1325 82.8 13.0 4 7 5 57 3.6 11.4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2008 DEN 15 104 1265 84.3 12.2 3 6 2 -4 -.3 -2.0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 2009 DEN 15 101 1120 74.7 11.1 3 10 7 39 2.6 5.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2010 MIA 14 86 1014 72.4 11.8 4 3 2 3 .2 1.5 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2011 MIA 16 81 1214 75.9 15.0 5 6 1 13 .8 13.0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2012 CHI 16 118 1508 94.3 12.8 7 11 1 -2 -.1 -2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2013 CHI 16 100 1295 80.9 13.0 6 12 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 -8 0 0 0 2014 CHI 13 61 721 55.5 11.8 2 8 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 How anyone can complain about this is totally beyond me..... 5th round pick people!!!!! smdh Can I get an Amen Church ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Over the years there have been no bigger Cutler fan than me. He's the guy I wanted to draft instead of Brick Ferguson and still would have to this day. Have you seen Cutler play lately ? He's a veteran, been in the league for yrs, and he makes Geno Smith look like a stud. Who's fault was the horrific Bears offense last year? Marshall, Jeffery, Forte, Bennett, Wilson. I'm not a fan of Trestman but that sh!t show cant be all on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Dude, he's a football player who makes plays. It's something the Jets don't have. Do you realize that lasyt yr the Jets had no WRs who could take the ball away from a defender on those 50/50 balls. You win with talent, and this is a talented player who can teach the 2 young WRs on or roster how to play the game. Tin, don't even bother. Some folks on this board just have an agenda and are content to bitch and moan about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tanny did it with holmes, idzik w/ harvin and now mac w/ marshall. There is a reason teams are giving these guys away for nothing. Y do we keep falling for this over and over and over? Reason: same old jets. Same old jets is alive and well. Unbelievable. Trading for Holmes was a great move. Re-signing him for $9M/year with $20M guaranteed was as dumb as extending Sanchez with $20M guaranteed. Maybe dumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Decker and Kerely have gotta be thrilled. This move lets both of them play roles they're more suited for. And Geno?.. If he can somehow manage to be the week 1 starter, this could mean a huge improvement for him. I'm not holding my breath, but if he's given a 3rd season to prove himself, he won't have any excuses. I'm cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Here's my reply: Do you know for a fact that Idzik didn't tell the staff that Geno wasn't ready ? I don't, but I knew he wasn't ready to start in a WCO, not even knowing how to take snaps from under center. Don't know . I would have drafted Bridgewater over Calvin Pryor in a N Y minute and twice on Sunday. Here's my reply: do you know what beef is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 actually BPD is one of the toughest mental illnesses to treat and to stay recovered, although there is some evidence it's less severe as you age.. Marshall just got arrested in NY for hitting a girl, within the last 2-3 years I believe "just" got arrested? He wasn't arrested. The incident was about 9 months after Marshall was diagnosed with BPD and began his meds. On early Sunday, March 11, 2012, two days before his trade to the Bears, Marshall was accused of hitting a woman in the face at a New York club and being involved in a melee. The New York Post stated that Marshall, his wife and some friends were at Marquee when a brawl ensued, and Marshall punched the woman below her left eye, although he may have been attempting to hit the woman's friends.[101] The investigation later ended after a lack of evidence of Marshall's role in the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Dude who the **** cares how many teams he has been on? WHAT WAS HIS PRODUCTION Especially his LAST team??? In case you are wondering here it is... now I ask you; WHO could we get for a 5th rounder with this production?? Keep in mind he was hurt last year. Year Receiving Rushing Fumb. KO Ret Punt Ret Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD 2006 DEN 15 20 309 20.6 15.5 0 2 2 12 .8 6.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2007 DEN 16 102 1325 82.8 13.0 4 7 5 57 3.6 11.4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2008 DEN 15 104 1265 84.3 12.2 3 6 2 -4 -.3 -2.0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 2009 DEN 15 101 1120 74.7 11.1 3 10 7 39 2.6 5.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2010 MIA 14 86 1014 72.4 11.8 4 3 2 3 .2 1.5 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2011 MIA 16 81 1214 75.9 15.0 5 6 1 13 .8 13.0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2012 CHI 16 118 1508 94.3 12.8 7 11 1 -2 -.1 -2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2013 CHI 16 100 1295 80.9 13.0 6 12 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 -8 0 0 0 2014 CHI 13 61 721 55.5 11.8 2 8 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 How anyone can complain about this is totally beyond me..... 5th round pick people!!!!! smdh Why are you so mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Who's fault was the horrific Bears offense last year? Marshall, Jeffery, Forte, Bennett, Wilson. I'm not a fan of Trestman but that sh!t show cant be all on him. Cutler is shell shocked. He's a great talent, but he no longer is interested in getting hit anymore. He throws the ball up because he has no confidence in his OL protecting him and I can't blame him. He's playing scared and that means he's done IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Why are you so mad? You bring the worst out of people. Surely you've heard this before. Post a .gif or something to make it all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 On it's face this isn't a bad deal. I just think it stinks of Woody going over the GM's head. No matter who the GM is this owner loves big names. Farve, Tomlinson, Tebow, ect, now Marshall. Where did it say that Woody went over Macca's head on this one? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Here's my reply: do you know what beef is? When I ate it,(I don't anymore) I preferred Prime Rib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I understand he knows him. I'm concerned that the HC supported a move that, initially, I think is bad, regardless of that fact. Wondering why you don't like the move. Marshall for a 5th, cut Harvin and keep the 4th, save on net cap, is a much better plan than cutting Harvin and getting into a bidding war for Cobb/Maclin/Smith (which saves us all of a 5th round pick and likely costs more money, and especially cap flexibility moving forward, than Marshall does) or keeping Harvin at a higher cap cost and losing a 4th round pick. What's the downside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 nice pickup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Marshall would not have signed with us if he were free,. He would have gone to a Super Bowl contender for less. That would have been the end of this world. Well the world is now saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Countless women despiiiiiiiise me and yet none of them have drawn blood. I've been hit with a shoe, been bitten, punched, and had all of my credit card info put on a blog, but never got stabbed. stop stealing their boyfriends and they will stop hating you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Idzik and Rex's CBs were supposed to be Milliner , Mcdougle and Wilson . 2 of em got hurt and nobody available was worth ruining the cap to attain after that. Rex needed to adjust and didn't. He threw those guys out there to do things they couldn't and it made everyone look bad. Who was Idzik supposed to spend money on that was worth it when all the CBs got injured ? The Baltimore Ravens almost beat the Pats with a bunch of crap at CB in the playoffs because they adjusted. Rex Ryan is / was a Lousy HC and a 1 trick pony as a DC. Actually, it was supposed to be Patterson and Milliner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ever seen NFL Network's 'A Football Life' episode on him? He isn't a bad guy, just misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yeah. Brandon Marshall is the postsr child for being patient while a young qb learns the rope. I cant believe im reading some of this stuff. Poster child for being patient? He's here short term. He gives the jets a lot of flexibility on draft day. Who needs him to be patient? He just needs to catch the damn ball the next year or two. He isn't a long term solution he's a short term band aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 100% correct. Marshall is the poster child for mental health rehab and is a shining example of success through accurate diagnosis and treatment. This board is so full of ignorami that all they can see is past bad behavior and assume there has been no change. Some people here never let facts get in their way of displaying their own inability to reason. Agreed. Been pulling for him for years; borderline is a no-fooling awful diagnosis, and he's been doing really great things since he got help. Will be nice to root for him in green and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Countless women despiiiiiiiise me and yet none of them have drawn blood. I've been hit with a shoe, been bitten, punched, and had all of my credit card info put on a blog, but never got stabbed. Maybe you should date more motivated women. It seems like your lack of wounds isn't from a lack attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFavoriteMartin28 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 ...this good receiver with a bad qb ordeal that all the haters are using to hate this trade...When Josh Gordon led the league in receiving who was his qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Actually, it was supposed to be Patterson and Milliner Do u believe Rex spent a 3rd round pick on a CB to have him sit on the bench ? Especially a CB the football world was shocked when he was drafted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Do u believe Rex spent a 3rd round pick on a CB to have him sit on the bench ? Especially a CB the football world was shocked when he was drafted ? Yes. Third rounders, especially guys coming back from catastrophic injury, are not usually counted on as day 1 starters. Of course, if he came into camp and lit it they'd happily have started him. But only a fool would have planned on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 God help me if the jets get cuntler... Do u think he would be better than Geno, who would u prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Could not have said it better. I liked the gm/coach but was slightly concerned that they didnt cut harvin right away. Now this awful move, and its over. These guys are as clueless as the last regime. Damn. Only an idiot would cut Harvin before they acquired someone to take his place. They had until March 19th to cut Harvin and preserve their 4th rounder so why do it earlier than that? It gives them over a week to explore free agency and see who they can get. They should still hold Harvin until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Is it true that Brandon Marshall has never been to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 100% correct. Marshall is the poster child for mental health rehab and is a shining example of success through accurate diagnosis and treatment. This board is so full of ignorami that all they can see is past bad behavior and assume there has been no change. Some people here never let facts get in their way of displaying their own inability to reason. Yes, I have become more and more aware of that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 For a 5th rounder. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tanny did it with holmes, idzik w/ harvin and now mac w/ marshall. There is a reason teams are giving these guys away for nothing. Y do we keep falling for this over and over and over? Reason: same old jets. Same old jets is alive and well. Unbelievable. sorry you feel that way. It's not based on any logic at all. You are riding on emotion. Too bad for you. Marshall is a very solid signing for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Do u think he would be better than Geno, who would u prefer? I want a guy that cares about football and winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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