slats Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I love Mangold, but his contract is stupid and this one is stupider. Just ridiculous money for an interior lineman. When I saw Pouncy was resigned, I knew the architect of the Mangold contract would outdo himself. I'm not disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 It's a waste of money. Center is one of the easiest positions in football to figure out from a physical standpoint/skill. And if you look around the league teams don't really bother re-signing those guys either. They let them walk in free agency and just plug in a young guy who's been in the system for a while and there's virtually no dropoff. Seahawks are doing it, the Chiefs, Cardinals...And to be honest I liked what Dalton Freeman showed us last year. Granted, it was just one start, but I didn't notice any dropoff. No way I'd spend 10 mil. per year on a Center, that's just absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Via NJ.com, our Predraft visits: • Alabama WR Amari Cooper: April 2 • Stanford OT Andrus Peat: April 2 • Buffalo DL Kristjan Sokoli • Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota • Missouri OLB Shane Ray • Baylor QB Bryce Petty • Virginia OLB Eli Harold • Florida State QB Jameis Winston • UCLA QB Brett Hundley (private workout) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago Johnny Manziel has been released from a drug and alcohol treatment facility, multiple sources told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Getting ready for his trade to Eagles or St. Louis or wherever the heck they're shipping him off to....Siberia=Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 So if Winston starts free-falling and is available at 6 what do we do? I know some will say run up to the podium and select him but those red flags coming out now, imagine him in NEW YORK??? He could make Manziel look like a choirboy.... I would say run to the podium, his off field problems are a concern but hopefully he will grow out of them (I don't see him stealing crab legs after his first NFL contract). The biggest reason I like him for the Jets is that I think he would be able to handle the NY media and fans unlike some of the other QBs in recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago Johnny Manziel has been released from a drug and alcohol treatment facility, multiple sources told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Getting ready for his trade to Eagles or St. Louis or wherever the heck they're shipping him off to....Siberia=Cleveland I think Chip Kelly would commit suicide (or homicide on Manziel) if that trade gets announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Are the Jets plotting a trade up for Jameis? http://t.co/K32Bm4NYDC — ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LinemanCT Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Manish Mehta secretly writes for Walter Football ....that's what I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Assuming there is any truth to this; what do you guys think it would cost to move up from 6 to 1? We saw the kings ransom the Skins paid to move up to 2; not saying that should be the benchmark but it could be very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The amount of quality pass rushers this year is insane. You think Harold Eli will be on the board at 37? That will be amazing pick up even if we draft a edge rusher at 6 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Assuming there is any truth to this; what do you guys think it would cost to move up from 6 to 1? We saw the kings ransom the Skins paid to move up to 2; not saying that should be the benchmark but it could be very expensive. If TB is willing to trade out of #1 then you know they aren't very interested in MM either. I'd think you could give the #6 pick, 2nd rd pick and next year 2nd rd. pick. They'd be negotiating from a place of weakness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Did we trade for Glennon yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Did we trade for Glennon yet? Nah. Denver just traded Manning and Thomas for him. Why would the Bucs take a sh*t trade like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Rivers, still. I'll take 5-6 years of him over any player in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Wow...Tanny....making center's rich in this sport since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I stopped reading at Mehta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's a waste of money. Center is one of the easiest positions in football to figure out from a physical standpoint/skill. And if you look around the league teams don't really bother re-signing those guys either. They let them walk in free agency and just plug in a young guy who's been in the system for a while and there's virtually no dropoff. Seahawks are doing it, the Chiefs, Cardinals...And to be honest I liked what Dalton Freeman showed us last year. Granted, it was just one start, but I didn't notice any dropoff. No way I'd spend 10 mil. per year on a Center, that's just absolutely ridiculous.That is just wrong on so many levels. Center is the second most important position ( only behind Lt) on the Offense line. The Jets to land their Lt and their center in the same draft , was a great draft. I laugh at the fans, who don't appreciate what you have in Nick Mangold. (D Ferguson too) All you have to do is look back when he was injured a couple years ago, and how hard it was to replace him. That's going to be the biggest challenge facing the Jets in a couple years- finding dbrickshaw Ferguson, and Nick Mangold replacement. It's going to almost impossible to replace those two players , as it hard to find players with that ability at those two key positions.( going to be a big drop off) Let's see how the teams who go cheap at the second important position on the Offense line( Center) do. I bet most of them are going to struggle big time as You don't lose your anchor on the Offense line without struggling. Sometimes you get what you pay for. D Brickshaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold spoiled you, and your going to find out just how lucky your team was having them. When both are gone, reality will finally set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Do you really call it offenseline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 That is just wrong on so many levels. Center is the second most important position ( only behind Lt) on the Offense line. The Jets to land their Lt and their center in the same draft , was a great draft. I laugh at the fans, who don't appreciate what you have in Nick Mangold. (D Ferguson too) All you have to do is look back when he was injured a couple years ago, and how hard it was to replace him. That's going to be the biggest challenge facing the Jets in a couple years- finding dbrickshaw Ferguson, and Nick Mangold replacement. It's going to almost impossible to replace those two players , as it hard to find players with that ability at those two key positions.( going to be a big drop off) Let's see how the teams who go cheap at the second important position on the Offense line( Center) do. I bet most of them are going to struggle big time as You don't lose your anchor on the Offense line without struggling. Sometimes you get what you pay for. D Brickshaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold spoiled you, and your going to find out just how lucky your team was having them. When both are gone, reality will finally set in. That Ravens game was brutal, I actually felt bad for Sanchez during that one. I agree both positions are important and we should be looking for replacements for both Ferguson (getting old and probably not worth the money we are giving him at this point) and Mangold who probably can only give us a maximum of three more years if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sources: Jets haven't ruled out trading up, Jameis Winston scheduled for pre-draft visit. #nyj http://t.co/k9Nwenls8C — Rich Cimini (@RichCimini) April 12, 2015 Why the hell would they rule out anything? Whether it's moving up or down. This guy is such an imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Ron Jaworski thinks the Bucs are taking Marcus Mariota with the top pick http://t.co/Pq9Tb50BDj — ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 13, 2015 Mariota getting some momentum. I think if Winston drops to #2 the Chargers might send Rivers to the Titans to scoop him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If the Bucs take Mariota that will shake this draft up for real with teams trying to trade up to take Famous Jameis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 If the Bucs take Mariota that will shake this draft up for real with teams trying to trade up to take Famous Jameis It's funny how the entire league wants to trade up to #1 to get Winston yet the Buccs have the first pick and they are leaning towards picking Mariota. Just odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It's funny how the entire league wants to trade up to #1 to get Winston yet the Buccs have the first pick and they are leaning towards picking Mariota. Just odd. Not really. Consider the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If the Bucs take Mariota that will shake this draft up for real with teams trying to trade up to take Famous Jameis Perfect. That means we'll be picking from Cooper, White, Fowler or Williams at #6. It couldn't fall any better than that for us. Ryan Fitzpatrick with targets like Marshall, Decker, Cooper, Kerley, Amaro ... I know Fitz isn't the "top 10 QB" that everyone in our fanbase is pining for, but I don't see how he could fail with that sort of supporting cast. He looked mostly very good last year with Arian Foster, Deandre Hopkins and a fading Andre Johnson, this would give him twice the fire power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Not really. Consider the source. Mayock also has him as his #1 QB. He's just gaining momentum right now. I'm not sure where all this is coming from suddenly, all this stuff they bring up, we knew months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 This is what you are going to get with the more time before the actual draft- more stories to tell and make up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 OC Greg Roman - "We want to be a balanced problem for our opponents. Want 11 guys out there who our opponents have to worry about." #Bills — Chris Brown (@ChrisBrownBills) April 13, 2015 Safety Sean Richardson offer sheet - matched by @packers #packers — Mitch Nelles (@mitchnelles) April 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent WR Michael Crabtree: http://t.co/t6CJBEVIk7 pic.twitter.com/Ht75UjYU1n — OAKLAND RAIDERS (@RAIDERS) April 14, 2015 They just keep on adding players nobody wants. Same sh*t every year. You'd think they'd learn at some point. Spoiler alert: He will be released next year after a terrible season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 ^Pumped up Drew Gooden THAT'S MY LINE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000485197/Roster-Reset-AFC-East?CAMPAIGN=TWITTER_VIDEO_rosterreset Our favorite shortnecked walking concussion is back. Best AFC East Additions? Revis? Nope. Suh? Nope. How about EVERYBODY the Bills signed. How about Cassel, a coordinator, a RB, and a gadget player. What about the biggest challenger to the Pats? How about...the Bills! Jesus. How does this imbecile still have a job and talk football for a living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gang Green Nation @GangGreenNation 45m45 minutes ago Jets To Host Private Workout With QB Grayson http://sbnation.com/e/8173736?utm_campaign=ganggreennation&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter … pic.twitter.com/CxelMbPzS6 Curious how they view this kid in comparison to Petty? Throws a nice deep ball from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 If Howie Long had one vote for @ProFootballHOF he'd put in Joe Klecko. He tells @talkoffamenet why: http://t.co/IS185tacAY @RAIDERS @nyjets — Clark Judge (@clarkjudgeTOF) April 14, 2015 Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gang Green Nation @GangGreenNation 45m45 minutes ago Jets To Host Private Workout With QB Grayson http://sbnation.com/e/8173736?utm_campaign=ganggreennation&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter … pic.twitter.com/CxelMbPzS6 Curious how they view this kid in comparison to Petty? Throws a nice deep ball from what I've read. Draft a franchise QB or go pick something else. Enough with this wasting of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks on guys that don't have what it takes to be a good NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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