Jetsfan80 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Truth be told Wright should walk into the front office and forfeit like $6 million per to Murph. If it weren't for him the big story of this postseason would be Wright completely disappearing when the offense needed him most, and between this year and '06 he'd get the choker label. Instead nobody cares because Daniel Murphy turned into Babe Ruth so who gives a sh*t about anything else. Pretty much. Is it true Wright asked to be benched by Collins, and Terry refused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Adam Rubin ESPN Staff Writer Terry Collins says Matt Harvey's right triceps is "pretty sore and pretty swelled up." Right now it's a go for Game 5, but still some uncertainty. Bartolo Colon, Jon Niese in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Pretty much. Is it true Wright asked to be benched by Collins, and Terry refused? Collins said Wright asked if he thought he should be moved lower in the order, and Collins thought about it and decided that 1) There's nobody really else to hit in that spot right now considering Cespedes is doing just as poorly and 2) He thinks the team needs his presence at the top of the lineup. Also said he thinks having to face Greinke and Kershaw for a week straight ****ed with his swing. We'll see. Sheffield was doing a bit last night on this and he said he thinks Wright straightened his hips out finally last night and he thinks he'll be fine the rest of the way. And Wrigley is certainly the right ballpark to help a hitter get going. Worth noting that it's going to be a windy week, so I'd expect some runs the next 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 My only fear is that if they get the wind again it definitely favors the Cubs. They had a few hits these first two games that would have been HRs at Wrigley, but then again I guess we did too. I didn't get all this Cubs having the much superior offense talk at the start of the series and I still don't. Unless I am reading the wrong stats, the Mets were better than the Cubs this season in just about every offensive category including HR's.... and that's with the lame line-up we trotted out there for over half the season. The Cubs have a lot of young talented bats that are susceptible to the strikeout which is what the Mets SP strength is. The series is far from over but the Mets are not at a disadvantage in any match-up, statistical comparison, weather related discussion or anything else someone wants to drum up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I didn't get all this Cubs having the much superior offense talk at the start of the series and I still don't. Unless I am reading the wrong stats, the Mets were better than the Cubs this season in just about every offensive category including HR's.... and that's with the lame line-up we trotted out there for over half the season. The Cubs have a lot of young talented bats that are susceptible to the strikeout which is what the Mets SP strength is. The series is far from over but the Mets are not at a disadvantage in any match-up, statistical comparison, weather related discussion or anything else someone wants to drum up. The Cubs are like the Dolphins, any semblance of them being good and their fanbase and the media tend to really hype them up. Pretty much why Vegas favored them after the division series finished up, you have to make them favorites because people bet them. That said their lineup is definitely going to be legit for a long time, but the one guy who kept saying this is a strikeout team and that favors the Mets considering their pitching before this series was Olney. No excuses going forward for sure. Teams that win the first 2 at home win over 3/4 of the time, but given the pitching mismatches over the next 2 days the odds have to be more in our favor than that, so there is absolutely no excuse for the Mets to not put themselves in a position to close this out. The weather probably favored the pitchers, sure; but what kind of excuse is that? The Cubs trotted out a $150 million pitcher for game 1 and a Cy Young candidate for game 2. It's not like we were going up against newbs. Bottom line is we just beat them, plain and simple. What the Mets have been doing considering the pitching they've been facing is historic, and anyone who can't tip their cap to it I find annoying. When all is said and done we are 4-1 against the top 3 Cy Young candidates this year. No team has ever done this in history. I think my fear of the Cubs scoring is that our power guys have all been slumping so bad. Wright, Yo, Duda...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'll be honest I don't think most of this city watched much of Mets/Dodgers. Everyone is talking about deGrom as if he's just a pretty good pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Probably the right decision, sadly. Bring back Cespedes, take the compensatory pick for Murph. This happened recently with another team...cant remember who but the team kept saying the same thing but the player stayed hot in the playoffs and the fans clamored for him and got resigned. I dont see that happening with Murph because I think a glove is the priority at 2nd base with this staff moving forward and as it probably should be. But even as probably his biggest hater out there, I'm kind of warming up to it. He is a hard out, he works counts like a mother and if this is seriously some new found power that we're seeing, maybe they give it some serious thought. It could be a motivation tactic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Well Murphy we know what we get- but his recent power surge is a little unexpected from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 warm night in ChIcago First pitch at Wrigley is scheduled for 8 p.m. Game-time temp: 66 degrees with some clouds, according to AccuWeather.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Very anxious for tonight. If deGrom has his good stuff, we should win. I will rest a little easier after we have that 3rd win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Should Jacob deGrom reach double-digit strikeouts tonight, he would become the second pitcher in MLB history with 30 strikeouts in his first three postseason games, joining Bob Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I know I shouldn't be bringing up any more Cespedes/Murphy stuff just hours before first pitch, but I'll forget about it later if I don't ask the question now. I was comparing Murphy and Cespedes' WAR ratings just to see if there was a significant difference there. Murphy's was 1.4, which isn't a big surprise. But Cespedes' was "only" 2.3 in a Mets uniform this year. He was 4.0 with Detroit, putting him at 6.3 overall. That 2.3 seems low given how much of an offensive force he was. He hit 18 bombs for Detroit in 427 plate appearances and 17 HR's for us in just 249 plate appearances. Any explanations for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Probably the right decision, sadly. Bring back Cespedes, take the compensatory pick for Murph. Highly doubt they'll be getting a compensatory pick for Murphy, since they're not going to risk him taking the $15.8m qualifying offer if he can't find a satisfactory multi-year deal. If he keeps up this pace throughout the postseason, maybe they roll the dice that some team has a short memory and offers him a very lucrative contract. Not likely though... On top of that, Cespedes can't be given a QO after having been traded during the season, so no compensation when he leaves either. Didn't mean to be a Debbie Downer.... looking forward to some deGromination tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Perfect baseball weather today. Not sure how it is up on the Northside but there's a small breeze, nothing too major. Might be different closer to the lake though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Getting so pumped for this game!!!! LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'll be honest I don't think most of this city watched much of Mets/Dodgers. Everyone is talking about deGrom as if he's just a pretty good pitcher. They beat him up twice in regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Highly doubt they'll be getting a compensatory pick for Murphy, since they're not going to risk him taking the $15.8m qualifying offer if he can't find a satisfactory multi-year deal. If he keeps up this pace throughout the postseason, maybe they roll the dice that some team has a short memory and offers him a very lucrative contract. Not likely though... On top of that, Cespedes can't be given a QO after having been traded during the season, so no compensation when he leaves either. Didn't mean to be a Debbie Downer.... looking forward to some deGromination tonight. Sherman reporting Mets will tender him. Who knows? It would be a minimal risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 warm night in ChIcago First pitch at Wrigley is scheduled for 8 p.m. Game-time temp: 66 degrees with some clouds, according to AccuWeather.com. Weather.com says tomorrow should be upper 70s. Rain tonight thru tomorrow night around game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Who are these boobs nicking up deGrom? Imposters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 5 base runners in 2 innings and just 1 run. We gotta take advantage of these chances. Not good managerial moves by Collins either thus far. Kendricks is there for the taking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Holy Locked in Murph!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 That's what I'm talkin about - Murphy!!!!!! Pow Pow!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 THIS IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Ohhhhh just missed back to back. I'm tellin ya, Hendricks is bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 YES MURPH. Cespedes just missed, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 ... with bases empty once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 deGrom does not have his good stuff, they are going to need to score a lot of runs to win tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 deGrom does not have his good stuff, they are going to need to score a lot of runs to win tonight He didn't have his good stuff in LA either but he's a bull dog and will work thru it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He didn't have his good stuff in LA either but he's a bull dog and will work thru it. He will work thorugh it, but this lineup is far better than the Dodgers lineup, and he is not going to last long at this pace either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 degrom is nibbling. the catcher sets up outside too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He will work thorugh it, but this lineup is far better than the Dodgers lineup, and he is not going to last long at this pace either. Don't agree. LA had experienced and dangerous hitters. Cubs hitters are dangerous but lack experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Don't agree. LA had experienced and dangerous hitters. Cubs hitters are dangerous but lack experience. I hope you are right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I hope you are right! Soler looked good there. Obviously deGrom is not on again tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Soler looked good there. Obviously deGrom is not on again tonight. We're spoiled when we note that he's off after allowing a couple of solo HR's. Doesn't have his A game stuff but still has only allowed the two runs. More concerned that we have let Cubs pitchers off the hook a couple of times when we could have taken the fight completely out of them as a team. We've been a big hit away from busting this one open a few times. Let's hope we get another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 That (ivy) blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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