bman Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Solid hold the fort guy till Jets draft a Franchise QB at some point. Who knows, if they can keep him healthy he may do pretty good with these weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Now we use a mid-rounder on a QB (maybe the Colorado St guy, perhaps after trading down) and Geno gets relegated to 3rd string duties. Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 333 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's not even this year's picks! That's even better. I agree, We still could do something on draft day. Hes getting back-up money. Either way Genos days may be numbered, and thats the best part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Solid hold the fort guy till Jets draft a Franchise QB at some point. Who knows, if they can keep him healthy he may do pretty good with these weapons. Fitzy is definitely the biggest winner in all of this. Had he been cut no one would have paid him $3.3M this year I don't think. And he gets to come to a system he's been a part of before and throw to Marshall, Decker, Amaro, Kerley and who knows who else we add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Can't wait to hear all the whining now! C'mon people, be happy about this. Geno's time is done!! Geno is starting. I'm happy about this because we now have a viable back up who cannot only help mentor Geno but actually play if necessary. Remember, our new QB coach has no experience coaching QB's from what I recall. We need a guy like this on our team. Gailey can only spend so much time with Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 PFF had him ranked as the 12th best QB in the league last season with a positive 8.8 ranking. For some perspective Geno had a -19.8 ranking,, Hoyer -18.8 and Foles -7.4. I don't consider their stats gospel or anything but it's a pretty encouraging sign. He might not be the long term franchise QB but we've upgraded hugely here. Amazed people can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think they are looking at Hundley in rd 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sign Fitzy, draft Cooper and draft Hundley in rd 2. I like this!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeton Manning Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ryan Fitzbushwick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Geno is starting. I'm happy about this because we now have a viable back up who cannot only help mentor Geno but actually play if necessary. Remember, our new QB coach has no experience coaching QB's from what I recall. We need a guy like this on our team. Gailey can only spend so much time with Geno. Ha... Geno is NOT starting. He will be lucky to still be on the team. The only reason to keep him is that he is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInPA Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 My QB solution is to use Fitz as a one year bridge. Trade with the Eagles and get their 1st round pick next year. Hopefully, it becomes a top 5 and you draft Christian Hackenburg from PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Ryan Fitzpatrick-to-the-Jets move could be a trade Posted by Darin Gantt on March 11, 2015, 10:01 AM EDT When the seemingly inevitable Brian Hoyer signing comes through for the Texans, they’re going to have too many quarterbacks again. And it appears they have a plan to get something for one of the spares. According to Albert Breer and Kim Jones of the NFL Network, once Hoyer signs with the Texans they’re expected to trade Ryan Fitzpatrick to the Jets quickly. The groundwork for this deal seems to have been in place for some time, and makes sense for both sides. The Texans will have Hoyer and Ryan Mallett and Tom Savage, and the Jets need someone to serve as mentor/insurance policy for Geno Smith. Fitzpatrick spent a year with Chan Gailey in Buffalo, so he’ll know what’s happening in New York. Of course, the Jets could probably wait the Texans out to cut Fitzpatrick, but the possibility that someone else might want him means it’s probably worth giving up a seventh-rounder or some such to secure his $3.25 million contract for next year. Either that, or Jets General Manager Mike Maccagnan is just doing his old boss a favor by throwing a pick their way. Mentor/insurance my ass. If Fitzpatrick isn't the opening day starter I'm breaking out the torches and pitch forks. This team cannot go into another season with that train wreck as the starting quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Good read on Fitzy. Click to read the whole thing. The Jets are having a pretty darn good offseason and it continued on Wednesday when they sent a conditional late-round pick to Houston in exchange for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pac, you're dead wrong. This front office/HC/OC has zero ties to Geno Smith. They have zero incentive to start him. Meanwhile, we just added Brandon Marshall and Darrelle Revis. We're not looking for a QB to "develop" right now. We're looking for a guy that's good to go. Fitzpatrick has ties to both the GM and OC. He's the guy to run Chan Gailey's system. He's the Week 1 starter. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 everyone's emphasizing his brains but he's actually known as an uncommonly ballsy QB... tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think they are looking at Hundley in rd 2. Is that where he's projected? Too high for my taste. Love him in the 3rd though. Fitz, Geno, Hundley. I could live with it for a year. Though I'd still rather just roll with Geno and win 4 games for draft position purposes than win 7 with that stiff Fitz and be in no man's land next year. Whatevs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Fun fact: That's roughly 1.5 standard deviations, he'd need to have an IQ of roughly 1200 to do so. That's the bare minimum to get into Harvard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hope the condition is that if he sucks, they get nothing. And not if he is serviceable it goes to a 4th or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ha... Geno is NOT starting. He will be lucky to still be on the team. The only reason to keep him is that he is cheap. Don't you think if Macc and Co were ready to move on from Geno they'd have made more of a splash than Ryan Fitzpatrick? I'm telling you... Geno will be in the shotgun more often and may actually have some open targets this year. Unless he implodes in the pre season he's starting. Take it to the bank. BUT.. the leash will be short. I'd imagine he'll have 3 games and if he looks like crap he's outta there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 PFF had him ranked as the 12th best QB in the league last season with a positive 8.8 ranking. For some perspective Geno had a -19.8 ranking,, Hoyer -18.8 and Foles -7.4. I don't consider their stats gospel or anything but it's a pretty encouraging sign. He might not be the long term franchise QB but we've upgraded hugely here. Amazed people can't see it. I say all the time that PFF is just a guide, but I was pretty encouraged by their data when I watched a couple of Cleveland games to keep an eye on Skrine. Against Atlanta he played a very good game and PFF had him with a positive coverage rating. Against Tenn he was atrocious and PFF rated it as one of his worst games of the year. Apparently they're not just providing random data based on nothing as so many like to claim. Not to say they're 100% on the money, but they are an excellent resource to give you an idea as to how well a player performs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Agree I think he's a stopgap and we're taking a QB (just not at #6). Not familiar enough with these prospects to make a judgment on where they're likely to get drafted (or if they aren't total train wrecks in the making at any draft slot). Better than having another rookie compete with just Geno Smith, like Smith did with Sanchez or Sanchez with Clemens. Smart move. now we can draft and groom a QB. Rather than throw him to the dogs like the last couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 everyone's emphasizing his brains but he's actually known as an uncommonly ballsy QB... tough. oh yeah, he doesn't play very smart. He tries to force everything, like he has Favre's arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Is that where he's projected? Too high for my taste. Love him in the 3rd though. Fitz, Geno, Hundley. I could live with it for a year. Though I'd still rather just roll with Geno and win 4 games for draft position purposes than win 7 with that stiff Fitz and be in no man's land next year. Whatevs. New regime with some new players need to start winning as soon as possible. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pac, you're dead wrong. This front office/HC/OC has zero ties to Geno Smith. They have zero incentive to start him. Meanwhile, we just added Brandon Marshall and Darrelle Revis. We're not looking for a QB to "develop" right now. We're looking for a guy that's good to go. Fitzpatrick has ties to both the GM and OC. He's the guy to run Chan Gailey's system. He's the Week 1 starter. Period. I hereby challenge you to a sig bet. You pompous ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Don't you think if Macc and Co were ready to move on from Geno they'd have made more of a splash than Ryan Fitzpatrick? What splash was there to be had? Giving up high pick(s) this year to acquire Nick Foles? C'mon. Fitz is not splashy but it was a highly logical move. Get a guy who can play for you right away without even having to learn a system he's unfamiliar with. Smart decision for a team with a brand new GM, HC and OC. They needed to stabilize the QB position and this was the easiest and quickest way to do so without having to give up tons of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hope the condition is that if he sucks, they get nothing. And not if he is serviceable it goes to a 4th or something It's a 7th with a chance to be a 6th based on playing time, so 2016 draft. This is a no-brainer move. Everything is coming up Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 wait.... what if Fitzpatrick refuses the trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hereby challenge you to a sig bet. You pompous ass. Yes to a bet, no to the stakes. Donation to a charity. The RJF route. $50 to St. Jude's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yes to a bet, no to the stakes. Donation to a charity. The RJF route. $50 to St. Jude's. I decline your counter offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 interesting take from PFF At this point, an average offense would be a huge improvement. During those three years (which spanned 2010 to 2012), Fitzpatrick handled 1,678 (or 94 percent) of the Bills’ 1,789 dropbacks. He averaged 3,408 passing yards and 228 rushing yards per season and put up a 71:54 TD:INT mark. Those numbers aren’t particularly impressive, but they were enough to allow Fitzpatrick strong QB2 production. He was fantasy’s No. 17 scoring quarterback in 2010 (in 13 games), 12th in 2011, and 17thin 2012. Neither Fitzpatrick or Gailey have had a history of big-time production – the Bills scored exactly 24 passing touchdowns each of Gailey’s three seasons – but this is an offensive that should be right around league average. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/03/11/jets-acquire-ryan-fitzpatrick/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We need competent play at QB to give us a chance to win- not asking or expect him to be a saviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 NERDS UNITE FITZMAGIC TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Don't you think if Macc and Co were ready to move on from Geno they'd have made more of a splash than Ryan Fitzpatrick? I'm telling you... Geno will be in the shotgun more often and may actually have some open targets this year. Unless he implodes in the pre season he's starting. Take it to the bank. BUT.. the leash will be short. I'd imagine he'll have 3 games and if he looks like crap he's outta there. More of a splash? Who? Only 2nd tier QBs are avaialbe in FA. There is no savior. However, Fitz was with Chainey in Buff, during Fitz's most productive years. Why would the new regime tie themseld to the guy who got their predecessors fired? Answer... They wouldn't. Geno has taken his last snap as a starter for the NYJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pac, you're dead wrong. This front office/HC/OC has zero ties to Geno Smith. They have zero incentive to start him. Meanwhile, we just added Brandon Marshall and Darrelle Revis. We're not looking for a QB to "develop" right now. We're looking for a guy that's good to go. Fitzpatrick has ties to both the GM and OC. He's the guy to run Chan Gailey's system. He's the Week 1 starter. Period. Yeah Fitzpatrick > Geno. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I decline your counter offer. Why. If you want we can add a humiliation clause like where Bit had to say RJF is smarter. I know that's your ultimate goal in a bet like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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