SMC Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Internet posters know more about football than Brandon marshallWell, internet posters knew more about football than John Idzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Internet posters know more about football than Brandon marshall Every time I hear this argument I laugh. Does a McDonalds worker have an unsurpassed knowledge of the franchise system? Marshall is a great receiver it doesn't mean he has learned about the rest of the game or the management side of the sport. He's a millionaire too but that doesn't mean he knows more about managing his finances more than I do despite that fact that he makes more money in a game than I will in the next decade. Having said that I hope he's right. A big part of the reason why Marshall is in the NFL and some of us aren't is based purely on physical attributes and not necessarily his intricate knowledge of the overall sport itself. If I was 6'4 as opposed to 5'7 I would have played TE in college instead of not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ok so he has 1 personality on both sides of the border, I think that's even worse! Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 BPD is a serious disorder. The pressure of competing in the NFL is a stressor which could exacerbate the symptoms.. He is prolly on some serious meds to function, and not spend his life in group therapy. I hope being on the NYJ works out for him and the team. No meds for BPD. Psycho therapy only treatment. He apparently is doing well, has a supportive wife who stuck with him through some very difficult times and now they have kids. He always will be prone to erratic behavior, outbursts, things like that but he has it managed as well as possible, according to what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetcane Redux Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 No meds for BPD. Psycho therapy only treatment. He apparently is doing well, has a supportive wife who stuck with him through some very difficult times and now they have kids. He always will be prone to erratic behavior, outbursts, things like that but he has it managed as well as possible, according to what I've read. He may or not be on meds. There are BPD patients who do take their meds as prescribed. The link to BPD in this thread discusses meds as well for this disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Pretty sure I read he's not on meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Terror Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Well, internet posters knew more about football than John Idzik Who is John Idzik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Every time I hear this argument I laugh. Does a McDonalds worker have an unsurpassed knowledge of the franchise system? Marshall is a great receiver it doesn't mean he has learned about the rest of the game or the management side of the sport. He's a millionaire too but that doesn't mean he knows more about managing his finances more than I do despite that fact that he makes more money in a game than I will in the next decade. Having said that I hope he's right. A big part of the reason why Marshall is in the NFL and some of us aren't is based purely on physical attributes and not necessarily his intricate knowledge of the overall sport itself. If I was 6'4 as opposed to 5'7 I would have played TE in college instead of not at all. Yeah you're right you know more than a player who has been in the nfl almost 10 years and made pro bowls with different quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 well damn I fully expected Marshall to come out and say that Geno as a POS and that it was disaster to his career he got traded to a team with such a horrific QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The fact that Geno is putting in this kind of work in the offseason cannot be a bad thing. I am glad to hear it...I still expect a true competition at QB and if Geno is trying to work hard to win the starting job then good for him. I for one wish Geno luck,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yeah you're right you know more than a player who has been in the nfl almost 10 years and made pro bowls with different quarterbacks. Not saying I do. Just saying that argument doesn't always hold true. When it comes down to it football is football it isn't brain surgery, sorry. A good example is Cromartie as he has made the Pro Bowl and he said it himself he doesn't know anything about technique if he wasn't 6'2 with elite athleticism he wouldn't be in the NFL. Being a great athlete and being a student of the game are two very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The fact that Geno is putting in this kind of work in the offseason cannot be a bad thing. I am glad to hear it...I still expect a true competition at QB and if Geno is trying to work hard to win the starting job then good for him. I for one wish Geno luck,,, Sure it's good to see, and it would be awesome if he suddenly became a good QB. But he put the work in last offseason as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Take it from me, Geno will always be a below average QB and in the NFL you do not win. I compare Geno to a Tarvaris Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 he's huge and can catch a football Partial credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Partial credit. Your face is partial credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Take it from me, Geno will always be a below average QB and in the NFL you do not win. I compare Geno to a Tarvaris Jackson. How is Russell Wilson doing in Seattle? Has he beaten out Matt Flynn yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Sure it's good to see, and it would be awesome if he suddenly became a good QB. But he put the work in last offseason as well. Do you have to always be right!!!! Can't I keep my optimisim ?!? I will keep it, it is good to see. However, duly noted Sperm, he did put in the work last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Do you have to always be right!!!! Can't I keep my optimisim ?!? I will keep it, it is good to see. However, duly noted Sperm, he did put in the work last year. It cant happen, I am 99.9% sure. geno issue isnt hard work, arm , heart etc.. Its XsOS Playbook Progression reading. he just cant learn where his 2nd/3rd WR are after primary is covered QUICKLY enuf. At NFL level you almost throw with just periferal glance at progressions. Geno can NOT do that. In most cases after primary covered,he just does a odd backward spin towards endzone behinfd offense and starts a scamblke or throwds ahorrible ball into multi coverage. I just dont see great franchise QBs learning this Progression trait in NFL. You have it when drafted then enhance it. He never had it IMHO. The good news IF we draft Mariota the word is he is excellent at Progressions and doesnt panic in pocket after Primary covered. He takes that 1/2 step forward and keeps looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It cant happen, I am 99.9% sure. geno issue isnt hard work, arm , heart etc.. Its XsOS Playbook Progression reading. he just cant learn where his 2nd/3rd WR are after primary is covered QUICKLY enuf. At NFL level you almost throw with just periferal glance at progressions. Geno can NOT do that. In most cases after primary covered,he just does a odd backward spin towards endzone behinfd offense and starts a scamblke or throwds ahorrible ball into multi coverage. I just dont see great franchise QBs learning this Progression trait in NFL. You have it when drafted then enhance it. He never had it IMHO. The good news IF we draft Mariota the word is he is excellent at Progressions and doesnt panic in pocket after Primary covered. He takes that 1/2 step forward and keeps looking. can't fix stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Ok so he has 1 personality on both sides of the border, I think that's even worse! Let it go. Can't rescue a bad joke by doubling down on the stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Terror Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Let it go. Can't rescue a bad joke by doubling down on the stupid You're right, it only got 11 positive reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Do you have to always be right!!!! Can't I keep my optimisim ?!? I will keep it, it is good to see. However, duly noted Sperm, he did put in the work last year. Fine. Smith will be awesome. The winter-long working out with his QBC, which turned Tony Romo from a backup nothing into a star QB, is to be devalued. Of far greater impact will be playing catch with Brandon Marshall for an extended weekend. Happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jales22 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I think of Geno everytime I hear the line at 1:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If Geno Smith does improve, I wonder how many people who just KNOW he can't get better will be willing to admit they had no idea what they were talking about? Just curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If Geno Smith does improve, I wonder how many people who just KNOW he can't get better will be willing to admit they had no idea what they were talking about? Just curious.... That's easy. NO-BO-DY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If Geno Smith does improve, I wonder how many people who just KNOW he can't get better will be willing to admit they had no idea what they were talking about? Just curious.... That's easy. NO-BO-DY. Funny thing is, when Geno Smith is a backup on some other team I doubt you guys are going to be admitting that you were wrong. But yeah let's pass on Mariota for another year of Geno Smith, worked out wonderfully with Carr and Bridgewater. Funny thing is don't see all the haters on Bridgewater/Carr eating crow either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Funny thing is, when Geno Smith is a backup on some other team I doubt you guys are going to be admitting that you were wrong. But yeah let's pass on Mariota for another year of Geno Smith, worked out wonderfully with Carr and Bridgewater. Funny thing is don't see all the haters on Bridgewater/Carr eating crow either. Should they be eating crow cause of bridgewater 64 QB rating 14 tds and 15 TO's? Or the fact the great Derek Carr who was protected so much he threw a whooping 5.5 ypa , 58% completion percentage and 599 pass attempts and barley went over 3,000 yards. I personally don't think anyone needs to eat crow over these guys. They both still have plenty prove . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Fine. Smith will be awesome. The winter-long working out with his QBC, which turned Tony Romo from a backup nothing into a star QB, is to be devalued. Of far greater impact will be playing catch with Brandon Marshall for an extended weekend. Happy now? No........Sperm I do not feel better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 No........Sperm I do not feel better... Oh. Well I don't know how much warmer and fuzzier I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Funny thing is, when Geno Smith is a backup on some other team I doubt you guys are going to be admitting that you were wrong. But yeah let's pass on Mariota for another year of Geno Smith, worked out wonderfully with Carr and Bridgewater. Funny thing is don't see all the haters on Bridgewater/Carr eating crow either. Can't see that there would be anything for me to admit to if what you suggest actually occurs. My position on Geno is that he deserves another chance. Even if he eventually fails, since we cannot know in advance he will fail, not giving him another chance is what would be the mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Should they be eating crow cause of bridgewater 64 QB rating 14 tds and 15 TO's? Or the fact the great Derek Carr who was protected so much he threw a whooping 5.5 ypa , 58% completion percentage and 599 pass attempts and barley went over 3,000 yards. I personally don't think anyone needs to eat crow over these guys. They both still have plenty prove . Yes, the rookie of the year was a sh*t qb. Give me more of your riveting analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Funny thing is, when Geno Smith is a backup on some other team I doubt you guys are going to be admitting that you were wrong. But yeah let's pass on Mariota for another year of Geno Smith, worked out wonderfully with Carr and Bridgewater. Funny thing is don't see all the haters on Bridgewater/Carr eating crow either. Why wouldn't we? No one is saying he will be the starter; we are just saying we are interested in seeing what Chan Gailey can do with him along with a better playmakers on offense. All this "he is too stupid to learn" and other bullsh*t is what I object to. They guy has played some good games and is still young and developing. If Mariota is available at 6 and they draft him I will okay with that. We were never taking Carr or Bridgewater after Geno went 8-8 as a rookie so I don't see the relevance.... That is an argument you need to take up with the previous regime. In fact, I laugh posts like this because had we drafted Carr or Bridgewater, they probably would have struggled too, and some body like you would be calling them a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Can't see that there would be anything for me to admit to if what you suggest actually occurs. My position on Geno is that he deserves another chance. Even if he eventually fails, since we cannot know in advance he will fail, not giving him another chance is what would be the mistake. We are in agreement. We have nothing to lose at this point, why not let him compete with whomever, Fitz, Mariota etc and the best player wins the job. I remember Jim Plunkett who went from absolutely Horrible to Hero over the course of his career so it isn't impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Why wouldn't we? No one is saying he will be the starter; we are just saying we are interested in seeing what Chan Gailey can do with him along with a better playmakers on offense. All this "he is too stupid to learn" and other bullsh*t is what I object to. They guy has played some good games and is still young and developing. If Mariota is available at 6 and they draft him I will okay with that. We were never taking Carr or Bridgewater after Geno went 8-8 as a rookie so I don't see the relevance.... That is an argument you need to take up with the previous regime. In fact, I laugh posts like this because had we drafted Carr or Bridgewater, they probably would have struggled too, and some body like you would be calling them a bust. Totally, a guy like Carr who was on the worst roster in the league would've sucked on the Jets. And don't give me that sh*t about Geno winning 8 games, this team won 8 games in spite of Geno, not cause of it. Compare that to a team like the Raiders who had to have a rookie qb carry their ass to winning like three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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