chirorob Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, JiF said: You must not be following, I appreciate how all that was realistic. What I dont appreciate is how a calvary of crazy fighters didnt flank an army of dead people, giants and dragons after their swords were lit on fire by a lady who once released her vagina spirit to kill a "King". Fair enough. Bad decision. I have 2 things in defense. #1, it's a TV show. #2, the Dothraki have no experience fighting a hoard like that, they had no idea how large the hoard was, they couldn't really see the hoard, and in their past, they have always fought ( and won) by charging ahead, shock and awe, and utterly destroying their enemy. It's similar, they wouldn't know how to siege a castle, but would race around it and utterly destroy the country side around the castle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, chirorob said: Fair enough. Bad decision. I have 2 things in defense. #1, it's a TV show. #2, the Dothraki have no experience fighting a hoard like that, they had no idea how large the hoard was, they couldn't really see the hoard, and in their past, they have always fought ( and won) by charging ahead, shock and awe, and utterly destroying their enemy. It's similar, they wouldn't know how to siege a castle, but would race around it and utterly destroy the country side around the castle. Bro, I'm kidding. I'm mocking the dudes knocking the show because the Dorthaki didnt use strategy to attack the army of the dead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, JiF said: Bro, I'm kidding. I'm mocking the dudes knocking the show because the Dorthaki didnt use strategy to attack the army of the dead. It's early, and I'm slow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, JiF said: Bro, I'm kidding. I'm mocking the dudes knocking the show because the Dorthaki didnt use strategy to attack the army of the dead. No way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Glad you enjoyed them. 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: No way! Why you getting all butt hurt over it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, JiF said: Why you getting all butt hurt over it? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: lol Oh, I see. Next time you share your respect for realism on a fantasy TV program, I'll agree and then we can be friends again! I look forward to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, JiF said: Oh, I see. Next time you share your respect for realism on a fantasy TV program, I'll agree and then we can be friends again! I look forward to this day. Lol have folks question anything real or logical in a show with dragons, white walkers and a chick who can walk through fire unscathed. Its like that movie Face Off, we walk out of the theatre and the wife says “so wait, he jumps off a 400 foot oil derrick after he just had a face transplant and his face doesn’t rip off?!?” And I said “So THAT’S the unbelievable part?” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peace Frog Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said: Yes you miss the white hair blowing the first time you see it but when you watch it again it’s obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 12 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: What? I didn’t think these two things, location wise, were particularly close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: What? I didn’t think these two things, location wise, were particularly close. Yea I definitely didn't think of that in the moment, but after rewatching and after looking at the below map of Winterfell, it actually makes sense. Arya ran out of the library (where her face is on the map below) and somehow got to Godswood, but the only way to get to Godswood is to go through the courtyard where Jon and Viserion were. It also gives credence to the fact that Jon was actually useful during the battle of winterfell as opposed to the dope that I initially thought he was right after the episode ended. He stayed true to the character that GRRM built for him in the previous 7 seasons - willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said: Yea I definitely didn't think of that in the moment, but after rewatching and after looking at the below map of Winterfell, it actually makes sense. Arya ran out of the library (where her face is on the map below) and somehow got to Godswood, but the only way to get to Godswood is to go through the courtyard where Jon and Viserion were. It also gives credence to the fact that Jon was actually useful during the battle of winterfell as opposed to the dope that I initially thought he was right after the episode ended. He stayed true to the character that GRRM built for him in the previous 7 seasons - willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good again. Ofcourse there is a diagram to the layout of Winterfell. lmfao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 There's one nit picky thing I have about the Red Woman and Arya's conversation. It was never actually established that Arya knew the Night King's eyes were blue. She had never seen a wight, a White Walker, or the Night King. Obviously, you have to assume she's probably read some book with tails of the Night King and the White Walker's in it, or Jon at some point described the Night King to her, but The Red Woman emphasized the "blue eyes" line and it have never been established (at least in the show) that Arya knew what the Night King looked like, let alone what color his eyes were. In a similar instance, in the Battle of the Bastards, at the very end, when Ramsay tells Sansa that his dogs would never hurt him, she says something along the lines that they were starving because they hadn't been fed in seven "You said so, yourself". Except, Sansa had already left the little pre-war meeting between Ramsay and Jon when Ramsay says this. Sansa never actually heard it. Certainly, again, the viewer can assume that Jon or someone else tells her this story when they gets back to camp, but in both instances, with such a huge dramatic emphasis on both lines (The "blue eyes" line and the "hounds are starving" lines) - you would have hoped that the writers had more solidly established the foundation of why those lines were in fact so dramatic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: There's one nit picky thing I have about the Red Woman After seeing her naked I have nothing ever to nitpick about the Red Witch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Peace Frog said: After seeing her naked I have nothing ever to nitpick about the Red Witch. prolly the hottest chick on the show. either her, or the one sand snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: prolly the hottest chick on the show. either her, or the one sand snake Married to Guy Pearce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Married to Guy Pearce. lucky bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 In case no one has posted this yet: You're welcome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 3:56 PM, IndianaJet said: In a scenario where Cersi wins, Dany, Jon and Gendry are dead, dead, and dead. Does Cersi even know about Gendry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: In case no one has posted this yet: You're welcome. He's a genius. Pieces together music that makes scenes more epic than they have any right to be. Best thing about GOT right now and pretty much the only reason I kept watching the car crash that was Westworld Season 2. His Orchestral version of Paint it Black is a f*cking masterpiece. The music throughout GOT has been on point from the start - So many iconic themes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 This summary is hilarious. Little more harsh than even I expected. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 So I generally think that people who complain about Game of Thrones are weird but my friend this week asked me why didn’t Bran just have knives strapped to the backs of the ravens and then he could kamikaze them into the Night King, and I gotta admit that’s a damn good point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: So I generally think that people who complain about Game of Thrones are weird but my friend this week asked me why didn’t Bran just have knives strapped to the backs of the ravens and then he could kamikaze them into the Night King, and I gotta admit that’s a damn good point. Dragon glass knives. Obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 11:13 AM, JiF said: Ofcourse there is a diagram to the layout of Winterfell. lmfao This is the map floating around the Internet that’s allegedly from the books and would back up the theory. The proximity of the library to the courtyard, and the opening to the Godswood in relation to where Jon was performing that weird kabuki with the dragon all lines up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 12:03 PM, Irish Jet said: This summary is hilarious. Little more harsh than even I expected. Lol just watched the whole thing. Very funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 It's a long one, but a good watch if you're interested in the making of the episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 12:47 AM, T0mShane said: The rumor is he’s the Mad King Targaryen that Jamie Lannister killed. Danaerys’ father, iirc Just catching up on this thread now, but this is just a random fan theory that doesn't make any sense. The White Walkers looooong preceded the Mad King, and the Night King was the first, thus why his death wiped them all out. Suddenly deciding they were the same puts serious plot holes all over the place. EDIT: So... yeah, you guys seemed to have sorted that all out already. Never mind then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Just catching up on this thread now, but this is just a random fan theory that doesn't make any sense. The White Walkers looooong preceded the Mad King, and the Night King was the first, thus why his death wiped them all out. Suddenly deciding they were the same puts serious plot holes all over the place. EDIT: So... yeah, you guys seemed to have sorted that all out already. Never mind then. Yeah, I got screamed at pretty hard elsewhere. Like, book reader GoT people will power-punch the sh*t out of you online if you step on the canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 12:03 PM, Irish Jet said: This summary is hilarious. Little more harsh than even I expected. That was pretty funny, though it got tiresome half way through. I will say that the British are pretty ingenious when it comes to insults. My personal favorite: "f*ck numptey". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 10:10 AM, JiF said: I think you're letting your Arya hatred cloud you memory. Arya has had the greatest training of any one person in Westeros. They established she was a badass more than anyone in the show. Where was it established that Jon Snow was the greatest swordsman in the world? He didnt have some intense training. He trained with Sam and a bunch of meat heads that have never handled a sword but the first time he's thrown into battle, he's slaying it too. Did you question that as well? Yeah, I definitely don't get the Arya hate. People question her abilities, meanwhile they've had her going through never-ending training by various experts of all different types of battle going back to season one and water dancing with Syrio Forel, well before any of the faceless man stuff even began. They literally couldn't have gone slower with her development than you know... the entire series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, I got screamed at pretty hard elsewhere. Like, book reader GoT people will power-punch the sh*t out of you online if you step on the canon. Haha, fair enough. I'll admit, I've read the books, but don't really get that hung up on any differences between the two at all. It doesn't all need to be a copy and paste job. That said, they did already kind of lay down the root of the White Walkers within the show itself, which is the only reason I think it would look stupid to try to put this change in now. It would just be the show writers trying way too hard to force some sort of twist in that doesn't fit. I imagine they've still got opportunities to loop the Mad King back in via a combination of Bran and Daenerys anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 5:31 PM, IndianaJet said: It was never actually established that Arya knew the Night King's eyes were blue. Why would this be necessary? It’s not like Arya took this as permission to go do it. It was a premonition she shared with Arya. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I’m chomping at the bit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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