Klecko73isGod Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, chirorob said: He does not have the "intangibles" He does have the money to hire people to throw people thru walls. I hope so because he's got a noodle arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Maybe I'm misremembering things, but I always interpreted his dickishness as more of a necessity than his actual personality, because his children and grandchildren and other family members were constantly acting like morons. Had Cersei been the person then that she is now he probably would backed off. Nah... he was just a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, chirorob said: Roose was ruthless, but he was loyal to Rob Stark until Rob started acting like an idiot, going back on his word, and marrying someone after being promised to someone else. That was why the North lost, and why house Frey turned on them. High Sparrow was a religious zealot who took offense to his Queen having illegitimate kids with her twin brother. Sure, but he's living in a world where all political and cultural ambitions are rooted in gratuitous violence too. So there's a basis for him believing religious goals should be couched in the same norms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Sure, but he's living in a world where all political and cultural ambitions are rooted in gratuitous violence too. So there's a basis for him believing religious goals should be couched in the same norms. Oh, I totally agree with what you were saying. Now, after he started getting some power, I'm sure he liked it and wanted more. He also probably believed that his rule would be the best thing for the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, chirorob said: Spell it without google. Since I can't, I label her. Cause I'm a dirty, horrible man who stinks with names. Shae, as in: Shae would have taken all of my money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Shae, as in: Shae would have taken all of my money. You are truly, a better man than me. She was an excellent character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Might be spoiler-y, but these are promo pics from E5 that HBO put out. I’m not sure, but isn’t that the room with the Iron Throne Grey Worm and Tyrion are standing in, or is that Dragonstone? Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said: Nah... he was just a dick. He was a pragmatist but not a sadist. The scenes where Tywin and Lady Olenna discuss the burdens of parenting and leadership in the modern age were some of the most compelling parts of the whole series. This, here, is the ultimate Tywin Lannister scene where he reveals his grand philosophy. The show desperately misses this kind of discourse and, especially, acting excellence: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He was a pragmatist but not a sadist. The scenes where Tywin and Lady Olenna discuss the burdens of parenting and leadership in the modern age were some of the most compelling parts of the whole series. This, here, is the ultimate Tywin Lannister scene where he reveals his grand philosophy. The show desperately misses this kind of discourse and, especially, acting excellence: The arc with him and Arya was Tywin at his best. Those that earned his respect always got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: The arc with him and Arya was Tywin at his best. Those that earned his respect always got it. Great scenes and another place where Tywin was the hero-ish when he intervened to stop the torture of prisoners, including Arya, to put them to work. The show really lost its center axis when he died. Tywin really tied the room together 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Great scenes and another place where Tywin was the hero-ish when he intervened to stop the torture of prisoners, including Arya, to put them to work. The show really lost it’s center axis when he died. Tywin really tied the room together There is a scene or two during that arc where he’s cursing out other Lannisters for doing bad work. I think he had a real Teddy Roosevelt vibe to him and that’s why viewers, especially dudes, dug him so much. Ned too, now that I think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2019 20 hours ago, chirorob said: What is your definition of a great ruler? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 13 hours ago, T0mShane said: Might be spoiler-y, but these are promo pics from E5 that HBO put out. I’m not sure, but isn’t that the room with the Iron Throne Grey Worm and Tyrion are standing in, or is that Dragonstone? Interesting That's Dragonstone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 12 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: There is a scene or two during that arc where he’s cursing out other Lannisters for doing bad work. I think he had a real Teddy Roosevelt vibe to him and that’s why viewers, especially dudes, dug him so much. Ned too, now that I think about it. You see him in the deleted scene fishing, getting his own dinner. Or after he went hunting, talking to Jaime while skinning the animal he took down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47MazYDnmaU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, chirorob said: You see him in the deleted scene fishing, getting his own dinner. Or after he went hunting, talking to Jaime while skinning the animal he took down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47MazYDnmaU I always loved that scene where he's skinning the deer. In hindsight a Lannister butchering a stag (Baratheon) was some awesome foreshadowing. I remember an interview with Charles Dance from a while back where he explained that the deer was real and that he did that all in one take, despite having no experience and only being told how to do it by a butcher on set. Afterwards the cast and crew feasted on venison. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Tywin at his best: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: I always loved that scene where he's skinning the deer. In hindsight a Lannister butchering a stag (Baratheon) was some awesome foreshadowing. I remember an interview with Charles Dance from a while back where he explained that the deer was real and that he did that all in one take, despite having no experience and only being told how to do it by a butcher on set. Afterwards the cast and crew feasted on venison. Yeah, he did it all in 1 take, after being shown for literally a few minutes how to do it. That guy is an amazing actor, there are no bad scenes with him. Tywin and Arya were great, Tywin putting his pyscho grand king to bed was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 So when Dany lined up her entire army and dragon right outside the wall to negotiate with Cersei, why didn’t Cersei just rain arrows and giant bolts all over them? The dragon was literally just sitting there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Old now, but this made me laugh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Really hoping they don't go the 'mad queen' Daenerys route. That has not been foreshadowed enough over the course of the whole series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Really hoping they don't go the 'mad queen' Daenerys route. That has not been foreshadowed enough over the course of the whole series. Concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 So, everyone else super ready to just watch lots and lots of death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Really hoping they don't go the 'mad queen' Daenerys route. That has not been foreshadowed enough over the course of the whole series. Well if that intro piece is any indicator, HBO does not seem to be on your side with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 So there goes any redeeming qualities Jon had. I'm definitely on board with my original theory of absolutely everyone dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Really hoping they don't go the 'mad queen' Daenerys route. That has not been foreshadowed enough over the course of the whole series. I hope you didn't put money on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 ****in a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 So I’ve been right all the way through this season so I’m neither too high or too low on any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Dany emo was alright. Obvious, but fun to watch. Clegane-bowl sucked. Cersei and Jamie death sucked. Euron really was the least creative thing in the shows history. Cool that Jon has the light go on. Too late though. Arya coming into Kings Landing on a black horse, leaving on a white horse. Promising to see her purpose change. Went there to kill, ended up trying to save. Page turned? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 So, it was ******* gorgeous and incredibly visual. Set pieces were amazing. What sucked is that the deaths were wholly unsatisfying and none of it was clever or interesting on an intellectual or symbolic level. It was pure balls to the walls action movie schlock from the LOTR universe. Cersei deserved a better end. That Euron-Jamie matchup was like something out of Rocky 4, and the decision to turn Jon Snow into a pacifist, brain-dead mush is weak and he’s impossible to root for. Arya choosing to walk away at that point—after all this— was so ******* sexist and cliche that I wanted to puke. Still, gorgeous to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: So, it was ******* gorgeous and incredibly visual. Set pieces were amazing. What sucked is that the deaths were wholly unsatisfying and none of it was clever or interesting on an intellectual or symbolic level. It was pure balls to the walls action movie schlock from the LOTR universe. Cersei deserved a better end. That Euron-Jamie matchup was like something out of Rocky 4, and the decision to turn Jon Snow into a pacifist, brain-dead mush is weak and he’s impossible to root for. Arya choosing to walk away at that point—after all this— was so ******* sexist and cliche that I wanted to puke. Still, gorgeous to watch. Agree with every last word of this. While in the middle of watching the episode, here is the question that popped into my mind that I'm definitely curious of what others think: At this point, do we think Martin has simply not even figured out yet what he plans to put in the remaining books (assuming they ever come)? Or he has outright refused to give HBO anything but a vague direction for a small handful of major plot points? Because regardless of anyone's personal opinions on the positives/negatives of this season's episodes, one thing that is blatantly obvious is that he has next to nothing to do with any of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Still annoyed by Arya, after killing the Night King, saying “You’re right, Mr. Clegane! I sure would like to give up all this nastiness and go be a housewife.” My god. She’s literally at the foot of the stairs where she can compete her mission and it’s like, “never mind, gotta go get supper on for Gendry!” WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Agree with every last word of this. While in the middle of watching the episode, here is the question that popped into my mind that I'm definitely curious of what others think: At this point, do we think Martin has simply not even figured out yet what he plans to put in the remaining books (assuming they ever come)? Or he has outright refused to give HBO anything but a vague direction for a small handful of major plot points? Because regardless of anyone's personal opinions on the positives/negatives of this season's episodes, one thing that is blatantly obvious is that he has next to nothing to do with any of it. I think Martin is just really rich and doesn’t give a sh*t anymore. Dude’s banks and will continue to bank generational wealth and never lift another fat little finger again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I think Martin is just really rich and doesn’t give a sh*t anymore. Dude’s banks and will continue to bank generational wealth and never lift another fat little finger again. Friggin' Jets fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Jon not hooking up with Dany killed thousands. What a goof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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