Paradis Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 again, dont repeat the derisive words from earlier in thread or you may be 86'ed...... As an aside, I assume you realize how hilarious it is to say 'case dismissed' to someone who has argued before the Supreme Court, LOL It's why I said it. And yes. I got your msg the first time. Didn't think I've been overly crude. Appreciate you calling for a mod tho. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 SAR I We play the Cardinals in the Super Bowl? What a nice little story line for Bowles playing his former team. Also, Fitz and Palmer were teammates in Cinci. It's too rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Your Projecting 25TD's for him this year and to get comeback player of the year. He Threw 17 TD's last year in 12 games or roughly 1.5 TD's per game. So at that pace if he played 16 games he would had thrown about 23-24 TD. You basically saying he is going to repeat last years performance yet somehow win comeback player of the year for it. I get that your trying to say hes going to be good and see where your coming from but theres no shot at him winning CPOY. While I do think Geno will start because "Thats the way the NFL works" - I do agree fitz will likely have good numbers if he starts. Lol nice retreat from original argument that a player can't with CPOY if he played the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's why I said it. And yes. I got your msg the first time. Didn't think I've been overly crude. Appreciate you calling for a mod tho. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk hey you're welcome, no problem,, just don't use those words and all will be cool and you can stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 SAR I amazing graphics work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 amazing graphics work from background shot, Looks like we beat the Cardinals, ,that would be awesome, asst coach comes back to beat his old team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Lol nice retreat from original argument that a player can't with CPOY if he played the year before. Sure Rivers won it after playing - But that doesn't strengthen your argument whatsoever. Phillip Rivers went from being a Pro Bowl QB to being terrible then to playing at a MVP Level. Your projecting Fitzpatrick to play at the same pace he did last year and somehow win a comeback player of the year award. You simply don't understand what the comeback player of the year award is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sure Rivers won it after playing - But that doesn't strengthen your argument whatsoever. Phillip Rivers went from being a Pro Bowl QB to being terrible then to playing at a MVP Level. Your projecting Fitzpatrick to play at the same pace he did last year and somehow win a comeback player of the year award. You simply don't understand what the comeback player of the year award is. snooze... semantics, he claims Fitz a good year,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ryan Fitzpatrick-- comeback player of year. 24tds, 11ints. That would be fantastic. Question is if he puts up those numbers are we looking at 10 + wins with our defense and running game ? I say yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 That would be fantastic. Question is if he puts up those numbers are we looking at 10 + wins with our defense and running game ? I say yes I figured your money would be on the Sanchize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sure Rivers won it after playing - But that doesn't strengthen your argument whatsoever. Phillip Rivers went from being a Pro Bowl QB to being terrible then to playing at a MVP Level. Your projecting Fitzpatrick to play at the same pace he did last year and somehow win a comeback player of the year award. You simply don't understand what the comeback player of the year award is. A lot of what happened to Phillip Rivers was based on the talent then lack of talent then talent again .... You have to surround good QB's with talent because then they have the chance to become great QB's ...Some guys just never get it and we have had our share of those but we also have lacked talent for a long time and it makes it really hard to judge QB's who have played for this organization. Now that we have what I think is a pretty solid offense just lacking an all around treat at RB and a an O-lineman or 2 there really is no excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I figured your money would be on the Sanchize I don't even know what this means chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't even know what this means chan to win CPOY, he's backing up the white Chad Pennington.. means he should play atleast 13 games and have a good chance at CPOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 to win CPOY, he's backing up the white Chad Pennington.. means he should play atleast 13 games and have a good chance at CPOY White Chad Pennington. Is he related to the white Wes Welker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 As has been stated throughout this thread, of course you don't hand him the job. But if its close, Geno starts. No, if it is close then you give it to the better player. total equality is not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 No, if it is close then you give it to the better player. total equality is not possible. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A lot of what happened to Phillip Rivers was based on the talent then lack of talent then talent again .... You have to surround good QB's with talent because then they have the chance to become great QB's ...Some guys just never get it and we have had our share of those but we also have lacked talent for a long time and it makes it really hard to judge QB's who have played for this organization. Now that we have what I think is a pretty solid offense just lacking an all around treat at RB and a an O-lineman or 2 there really is no excuse what.. he basically had 1 bad year and it's cause he had no Oline and I think was hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A lot of what happened to Phillip Rivers was based on the talent then lack of talent then talent again .... You have to surround good QB's with talent because then they have the chance to become great QB's ...Some guys just never get it and we have had our share of those but we also have lacked talent for a long time and it makes it really hard to judge QB's who have played for this organization. Now that we have what I think is a pretty solid offense just lacking an all around treat at RB and a an O-lineman or 2 there really is no excuse Agreed. This is the best year for a QB on the Jets since the one year we had Keller, Braylon and before Santonio signed his extension. I would think this year is better. Both of our WR's are tough. Marshall is an elite red zone threat. Our RB's are tough. I would think this might finally be the year our offense will at-least be middle of the pack in the NFL which is a huge step for us. I would also bet that either QB that starts for us will be very successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ryan Fitzpatrick-- comeback player of year. 24tds, 11ints. I don't see any reason that Fitz can't mirror the career of Jim Plunkett. Just wondering: Does anyone know how Plunkett;s stats before coming to the Raiders compare with Fitz's stats before coming to the Jets? I just have this gut feeling they are pretty similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sure Rivers won it after playing - But that doesn't strengthen your argument whatsoever. Phillip Rivers went from being a Pro Bowl QB to being terrible then to playing at a MVP Level. Your projecting Fitzpatrick to play at the same pace he did last year and somehow win a comeback player of the year award. You simply don't understand what the comeback player of the year award is. You're right I don't. I don't think "comeback" should be given to someone who is "coming back" just from sucking. It should be coming back from adversity--like having a career year cut short by a busted leg and then catching on with a team with a rookie head coach and turning a 4-12 team into a playoff team. I do love that your are treating my TD/Int prediction as gospel. Raise it to 30TDs if it makes your feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Read the thread. I had read the thread. do not patronize me. if Geno is even slightly behind Fitz, then Geno can sit and try to learn now to improve while riding the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 its so sad to see a fanbase "shoot for" 24 TD passes in a season from the starting QB we are dain bramaged in the QB department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ryan Fitzpatrick - the Cadillac of Worms! His new nickname will be "Red Wriggler"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 You're right I don't. I don't think "comeback" should be given to someone who is "coming back" just from sucking. It should be coming back from adversity--like having a career year cut short by a busted leg and then catching on with a team with a rookie head coach and turning a 4-12 team into a playoff team. I do love that your are treating my TD/Int prediction as gospel. Raise it to 30TDs if it makes your feel better. I would totally love to change all of the definitions of every NFL award too. Unfortunately we can't just make things up as we go along in real life-- as theres zero chance of Fitz receiving this award. However you can talk about it all day here in a forum. So go for it. its so sad to see a fanbase "shoot for" 24 TD passes in a season from the starting QB we are dain bramaged in the QB department If our QB this season throws for 24 TD's we will be in the playoff race at the end of the season. I think we all would take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I would totally love to change all of the definitions of every NFL award too. Unfortunately we can't just make things up as we go along in real life-- as theres zero chance of Fitz receiving this award. However you can talk about it all day here in a forum. So go for it. If our QB this season throws for 24 TD's we will be in the playoff race at the end of the season. I think we all would take that. that's an average number. If we are going to dream, lets shoot for 32, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 I would totally love to change all of the definitions of every NFL award too. Unfortunately we can't just make things up as we go along in real life-- as theres zero chance of Fitz receiving this award. However you can talk about it all day here in a forum. So go for it. What a relief it is to me that I have your permission to share an opinion on a fan board. I can finally be myself and share my thoughts without fear. What a burden that has been lifted. Fitz has a better chance of getting CPOY than Geno does of starting 6 games. Book that one, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 broken leg shortened a career year and nfl exile in houston. players have "come back" from less to win the award. philips rivers is one example. Phillip Rivers was an All Pro in 09, had 20+ turnovers in 2012 and was all-pro again in 2013. That's pure comeback. You don't get demoted in a career year. Not as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 not sure CFL has a most improved player award not sure anyone in the CFL wants Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 what.. he basically had 1 bad year and it's cause he had no Oline and I think was hurt his O line had issues he lost a few receivers and that pretty muc constitutes loss of talent.. no ?/ I mean when you play with guys off the street like the Jets have been so good at your QB usually sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 his O line had issues he lost a few receivers and that pretty muc constitutes loss of talent.. no ?/ I mean when you play with guys off the street like the Jets have been so good at your QB usually sucks 1 bad year!! and an online that's a sieve is a bigger problem the lack of weaponzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Phillip Rivers was an All Pro in 09, had 20+ turnovers in 2012 and was all-pro again in 2013. That's pure comeback. You don't get demoted in a career year. Not as a QB. Love all the emotion this thread has stirred up. People really do love some geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Love all the emotion this thread has stirred up. People really do love some geno I call him 'Gee-NO' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Love all the emotion this thread has stirred up. People really do love some geno look at schedule,,talk to brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 look at schedule,,talk to brother Work has been hell on earth when i get a chance i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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