maury77 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Gut feeling it comes down to this choice it might easily be Kevin White. If they think he's a better prospect than Beasley. I personally am less comfortable with the OLB depth chart than I am with the WR depth chart. But the Jets could see it the other way, it would not be surprising at all. I agree with you bit that it would come down to those two choices for me, however, I would choose Beasley. All other things being equal, I think an edge rusher holds more value than a wr, I agree with you that OLB is a bigger need for the Jets than WR and I prefer the WR options that will be available later on in the draft over the OLB options that will be available in later rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Vic Beasley or Kevin White would be target then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Beasley. Why no love for Beasley? Cuz he's not 260? C'mon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Who do you take at 6? This is the top of my draft, depending on who is there when we pick: Cooper and Harold, or Fowler and Dorsett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Why aren't we discussing Punters that might be available? Totally overlooked position! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 this is idiotic. Where is Vic Beasley? Did he drop out of the draft or something? And Dorsett is NOT going at pick 16. He won't even make round 1. Not a snowball chance in hell that the Giants pick Gurley. Very bad mock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 White. The thought of White is starting to scare me. Im thinking hes not a sure thing. Maybe im blinded by my pessimism of WVU prospects. He has physical traits...does he have polished route running ability? Character concerns? Is he just a combine freak? I feel like he was an unknown until after college season was over and that scares the daylights out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 How do they forget Beasley in that mock? Weirdos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 White was not an unknown coming out of combine-lets get that straight. White or Beasley- I am not sold on Beasley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 How do they forget Beasley in that mock? Weirdos We gotta take Beasley in this scenario, IMO. Many think he's Vonn Miller-esque. Can you imagine adding a Vonn Miller to this group? If that turns out to be true our defense would be lights out!! In this scenario, I'm pounding table for Beasley!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 White was not an unknown coming out of combine-lets get that straight. White or Beasley- I am not sold on Beasle My question is, "Was he turning heads BEFORE the combine?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The thought of White is starting to scare me. Im thinking hes not a sure thing. Maybe im blinded by my pessimism of WVU prospects. He has physical traits...does he have polished route running ability? Character concerns? Is he just a combine freak? I feel like he was an unknown until after college season was over and that scares the daylights out of me. White does come with question marks as he had a problem with drops in 2013 but caught everything in 2014. He does go up and get the ball very well. He dosent appear to have any character concerns. I do have some reservations as he was a one year wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 My question is, "Was he turning heads BEFORE the combine?" He had a very good season in 2014. I would jump at Cooper at 6. White or Beasley is more of a challenging decision to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'd go with White. He's a legit #1 NFL frame. A redzone Beast. Instant offense & more of a role in the offense in the future. Makes Marshall expendable when his salary exceeds his production and White can step right in. If not White then trade down to grab picks & Gregory I've also become rather skeptical of Clemson players in the pros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCave Analyst Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Our pick #6 , I believe is next hot spot for trade activity. I don't believe TEN will take Mariota , but, will trade the pick. If not, they take Williams and the Mariota trade frenzy really heats up. JAX, OAK, and WAS are probably not locked on anyone in particular and could be tempted to a trade the includes 2 #1s. One player is not going to make them a Champion overnight. But, if the draft does go with these 5 players coming off the board in some order then we can become the next trade pivot point. Remember our pick is worth 1600 and TEN @ 2 is worth 2600 on the trade value chart. Do cooler heads prevail from the next 7 teams or do they call us with an effort to move up and grab the player that they are targeting . I think we will wait till the last 45 seconds and our new GM will trade down. Probably no further than #13. The next group of players could be all lumped in value but differ depending on a Team's need. This could be just as exciting as the opening of this year's free agent trade FRENZY. Most of you know I rank Gurley in the top 6, but, don't think they will do it. The Rumor Frenzy of misinformation is just getting started and by Thur afternoon could be boiling. I am planning to post on Wed night or Thur morning depending on my schedule. I look forward to you guys doing your homework and chiming in with some well thought out opinions to wet our appetites . And yes I watched Kiper and McShay last night and was stunned that Beasley didn't go in the 1st round when he Killed the Combine as a workout warrior and is ranked high by the NFL channel analysts. Most of what I read is that these edge rushers are Weak vs the Run. That is my concern too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I really was undecided who I favored at all with our pick until I started reading mocks one pick at a time, slowly instead of racing down, and finding that I winced every time I saw Cooper picked. In this scenario, I go White, with Beasley as my second choice. Trading down a few slots and ending up with Gurley or Scherf are both nice choices as well but I don't like the value of picking them at 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'd go with White. He's a legit #1 NFL frame. A redzone Beast. Instant offense & more of a role in the offense in the future. Makes Marshall expendable when his salary exceeds his production and White can step right in. If not White then trade down to grab picks & Gregory I've also become rather skeptical of Clemson players in the pros Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, Bruce Ellington, Martavis Bryant, C. J. Spiller, Byron Maxwell.... Not bad from my perspective. Perhaps you mean "defensive" players from Clemson? That would be a bit more credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCave Analyst Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I wouldn't rule out us taking the kid from LSU L. Collins to groom as Ferguson's replacement either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I wouldn't rule out us taking the kid from LSU L. Collins to groom as Ferguson's replacement either. Wouldnt rule out Clemmings from Pitt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Plenty of good WRs/RBs in the top of the 2nd - go with OLB/DE or OL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Plenty of good WRs/RBs in the top of the 2nd - go with OLB/DE or OL I agree with you. But if an elite receiver is sitting there at #6, it will be hard to pass up if your other option is Dupree or Sherft. There are very good OL in the second and third as well. Ideally, the Jets nab a top-flight OLB, then WR, then RB. Personally, I like Beasley at #6, but I wouldn't cry if we took White or Cooper. David Johnson should be there in the 3rd. OLB/WR/RB would be in the wheel-house of this draft's distribution, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 i wouldn't mind if they took a guy like fisher in the 2nd, they could use a young RT to groom. give me cooper/white, fisher and a rb in the 3rd, revamp this offense finally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The thought of White is starting to scare me. Im thinking hes not a sure thing. Maybe im blinded by my pessimism of WVU prospects. He has physical traits...does he have polished route running ability? Character concerns? Is he just a combine freak? I feel like he was an unknown until after college season was over and that scares the daylights out of me. Unknown if you don't watch College a Football .. He was one of the best receivers in the country. . Now if you wanna tell me he could be a 1 yr wonder I could agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 . Now if you wanna tell me he could be a 1 yr wonder I could agree with that. If you could agree with this, you shouldn't want to draft him @ 6. Unless you take developmental QB, #6 should be a lock....not a 1 year wonder at WVU. ...In my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If you could agree with this, you shouldn't want to draft him @ 6. Unless you take developmental QB, #6 should be a lock....not a 1 year wonder at WVU. ...In my opinion Hate to tell you there is no lock at 6- Beasley is certainly not a lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hate to tell you there is no lock at 6- Beasley is certainly not a lock I guess but I like Beasley better than white. We need to get to the QB!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I guess but I like Beasley better than white. We need to get to the QB!!!! Ok tough call- have to see what the management feels our biggest need is at that spot with players available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 White or Gurley, I do NOT reach on Beasley or Dupree when I can get Eli Harold or Gregory in the 2nd or bottom first with a small move up trade. We need balance. If not White or Gurley I would gladly trade down a few spots for someone that has to have Beasley or White. Gurley at 6th overall? Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetBlue Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think Gregory is a better prospect than both...and would agree about depth chart re OLB/WR I think he and White might be equal as prospects and as the need for OLB is greater than receiver plus given the depth of quality receviers in this draft, I would definitely go Gregory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I agree with you. But if an elite receiver is sitting there at #6, it will be hard to pass up if your other option is Dupree or Sherft. There are very good OL in the second and third as well. Ideally, the Jets nab a top-flight OLB, then WR, then RB. Personally, I like Beasley at #6, but I wouldn't cry if we took White or Cooper. David Johnson should be there in the 3rd. OLB/WR/RB would be in the wheel-house of this draft's distribution, IMHO. If we take Beasley be prepared to see one of two things; either him not playing on first or second downs, or teams running down his throat. If we go OLB, the choices need to be (not in any order) Gregory, Dupree or Fowler. Guys who can both rush the passer AND play the run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If we take Beasley be prepared to see one of two things; either him not playing on first or second downs, or teams running down his throat. If we go OLB, the choices need to be (not in any order) Gregory, Dupree or Fowler. Guys who can both rush the passer AND play the run. I feel the same way as you on this. We are in the minority. Only I'm not so sure Dupree doesn't generate similar concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If we take Beasley be prepared to see one of two things; either him not playing on first or second downs, or teams running down his throat. If we go OLB, the choices need to be (not in any order) Gregory, Dupree or Fowler. Guys who can both rush the passer AND play the run. Gregory is the only guy among the potential edge-rushers who was solid against the run and that was because he was used as a DE and it was a natural function of his role. Gregory is not, in my opinion, in the same class as a pass rusher as Fowler, Ray or Beasley (Dupree is too raw to even compare, but nice measurable). All three are more explosive, faster, and more skilled as pure pass rushers. So much depends on what the Jets want. I believe they will lean to the pure OLB's over the DE hybrid types (Coples part 2). Right now what teams are looking for is where they expect a player to be a few years down the road. Dupree may have the best upside, but he is the farthest away. If Ray is healthy, he and Fowler and Beasley will see the field quickly in precisely the packages you describe. That's not a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I watched a lot of College football and my ick will be a pass rusher at a LB position. My choice is between Beasley or Ray. I like Ray more because of his size and speed. Beasley is a little lighter and needs to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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