dbatesman Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't think Dupree is much different than Fowler if you ask me. They're totally different. Just not in the way people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Dupree and Beasley both are a little undersized to be edge guys, they will get manhandled by NFL tackles. Fowler and Gregory are the only ones with enough size to justify top 10 picks (however Gregory's other issues could drop him out of top 10). I know what the official numbers are, I'm talking about what these players play to on the field. Watch the tape, Dupree plays in space, he rarely found himself banging around on the line of scrimmage, which an NFL edge guy needs to do. jetscrazey, you ARE crazey! This player plays to being a little undersized to be an edge guy on the field? Does he impersonate Barkevious Mingo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm good with Dupree, if we trade down, not at 6. If your Picking at 6 its:- Cooper. White. Mariota. Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm good with Dupree, if we trade down, not at 6. If your Picking at 6 its:- Cooper. White. Mariota. Beasley. Would you take Leonard if he fell? I think Beasley & Fowler drop Leonard out of top 5 if QBs go 1 & 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 "Freakish athlete with chiseled frame. Posted incredible 42-inch vertical leap and 4.56 40 at the combine while weighing 269 pounds. Outstanding power with ability to rag-doll tight ends at will. . . . Explosive closing burst. . . . Raw, but learning with huge growth potential as a player........" This was one analysts words for Dupree. Sounds like Gholsten and dare I say VLAD or Stephen Hill. Say NO to potential in the 1st round. NO to Dupree in round 1. Raw but learning.... nuff said, PASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm good with Dupree, if we trade down, not at 6. If your Picking at 6 its:- Cooper. White. Mariota. Beasley. Would you take Leonard if he fell? I think Beasley & Fowler drop Leonard out of top 5 if QBs go 1 & 2 I probably know even less about these guys than usual, but I would tend to see it this way too. I am probably higher on Dupree than most - except maybe Gato, but I would imagine the top 7 would be the 2 QBs the 2 WRs, Beasley, Fowler and L. Williams. I assume we are taking one of them and Mariota might actually be primed for the longest fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 "Freakish athlete with chiseled frame. Posted incredible 42-inch vertical leap and 4.56 40 at the combine while weighing 269 pounds. Outstanding power with ability to rag-doll tight ends at will. . . . Explosive closing burst. . . . Raw, but learning with huge growth potential as a player........" This was one analysts words for Dupree. Sounds like Gholsten and dare I say VLAD or Stephen Hill. Say NO to potential in the 1st round. NO to Dupree in round 1. Raw but learning.... nuff said, PASS. Great athlete = potential bust? Do you hear yourself? The single word "raw" was the only thing in that analysis that wasn't positively glowing and it was fully qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 NFL linemen are very different from college linemen. Many of the bigger linemen were able to manhandle Dupree which is why I don't think the #6 overall pick is justified for him. If the Jets had the 12th pick or higher, I'd accept drafting him a lot more. That's all I'm saying. He has Maybin written all over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Vlad Ducasse 4.5 forty and 42" vertical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Great athlete = potential bust? Do you hear yourself? The single word "raw" was the only thing in that analysis that wasn't positively glowing and it was fully qualified. Yes... Maybin and Gholsten were exactly the same. reduce risk.... a 1st round player that doesn't contribute sets us back. Milner, Pryor etc. I am tired of potential. I wouldn't draft him in the 1st 20 picks. Risk if he being manhandled in the NFL IMO is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He has Maybin written all over him Maybin played at 230 in college. This guy plays at 269. ******* people and their ******* hatred of anybody that does well at the ******* combine is off the ******* wall nutso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Vlad Ducasse 4.5 forty and 42" vertical! run with it.... Vlad was drafted for potential. Say NO to development players at round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes... Maybin and Gholsten were exactly the same. reduce risk.... a 1st round player that doesn't contribute sets us back. Milner, Pryor etc. I am tired of potential. I wouldn't draft him in the 1st 20 picks. Risk if he being manhandled in the NFL IMO is good. Stop making stupid statements. Make up your ******* mind. Is he Gholston? Maybin? Stephen Hill? Vlad Ducasse? That pig and elephant DNA just won't splice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Stop making stupid statements. Make up your ******* mind. Is he Gholston? Maybin? Stephen Hill? Vlad Ducasse? That pig and elephant DNA just won't splice I have.... I dont want him in the top 20 picks. You like him, you wanna pay for potential. Go right ahead. I am tired of developmental players in early rounds. Remember...many experts agree with me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I have.... I dont want him in the top 20 picks. You like him, you wanna pay for potential. Go right ahead. I am tired of developmental players in early rounds. Remember...many experts agree with me as well. You can not like a guy and fear his bust potential without comparing him to every single player that didn't work out for us. Comparing him to Gholston and Maybin is pretty lazy, especially considering how different they were. BTW, every single player in the NFL is drafted on potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 You can not like a guy and fear his bust potential without comparing him to every single player that didn't work out for us. Comparing him to Gholston and Maybin is pretty lazy, especially considering how different they were. BTW, every single player in the NFL is drafted on potential. I bet you liked Kyle Wilson too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Dupree is this year's Ziggy Ansah, who went #5 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Then he will have 27 sacks as a rookie and if we don't draft him we will rue the day!!!! Book it! He may very well be Vernon Gholston. On the other hand, he may very well not be Vernon Gholston. Remember where you heard that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Bud DuMamula more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Gonna be so funny when it turns out Bud Dupree doesn't even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 his play doesn't match up to his measurables because he has to read and react imagine this kid trying to keep up with the eagles offense ? he would be 3 steps behind I have had my fill of guys who aren't instinctive football players do not want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 his play doesn't match up to his measurables because he has to read and react imagine this kid trying to keep up with the eagles offense ? he would be 3 steps behind I have had my fill of guys who aren't instinctive football players do not want Fatal last words: "We'll just coach him up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Fatal last words: "We'll just coach him up." ABSOLUTE TRUTH................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Mr. Gholston and Mr. Robertson. Here's to you dadadada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 imagine this kid trying to keep up with the eagles offense? he would be 3 steps behind If that's how you feel, imagine the guys who were way less productive and nowhere the athlete he is against them. I'm looking at you, Fowler and Ray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I bet you liked Kyle Wilson too. Let me guess, you hated DRob, but loved Wilkerson and Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Let me guess, you hated DRob, but loved Wilkerson and Richardson. I haven't seen a MOCK draft that has Dupree in top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If that's how you feel, imagine the guys who were way less productive and nowhere the athlete he is against them. I'm looking at you, Fowler and Ray! The SackSEER guy absolutely HATES Fowler and Ray as pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I haven't seen a MOCK draft that has Dupree in top 15. I am not banging the table for Dupree. That doesn't make him, or any other guy with a good combine (Vic Beasley for instance) Vernon Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I am not banging the table for Dupree. That doesn't make him, or any other guy with a good combine (Vic Beasley for instance) Vernon Gholston. Agree with that..I would take him with any pick at or around 20. I simply believe that having seen Vlad, Wilson, Hill etc... The JETS historically take fliers in early rounds. It rarely works out well. Drafting well is a crap shoot so one of my business mantras is remove as much uncertainty as possible. I believe this is draft worthy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If that's how you feel, imagine the guys who were way less productive and nowhere the athlete he is against them. I'm looking at you, Fowler and Ray! the National Broad-jump League is in Lithuania I don't like the pot heads I don't like the character cases I don't like the guys with the dreaded "not very instinctive" label the biggest difference between the NFL and college is the speed of the game. lets stay away form they guy who doesn't play fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I haven't seen a MOCK draft that has Dupree in top 15. jeremiah has us taking him at #6 currently (I'm pretty sure but its on the NFL network scroll tonight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 jeremiah has us taking him at #6 currently (I'm pretty sure but its on the NFL network scroll tonight) I googled a few mocks and saw none in top 15. If we take him at 6....I'm gonna spit out my chicken wings and beer. having a draft party in Charlotte NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Here is an interesting one: 3. image: http://walterfootball.com/jscss/Images/Logos/MED/JAC.gif Jaguars: Alvin Dupree, Outside Linebacker, Kentucky image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Kentucky_logo.gif This is the one big flyer of pick i have in the first round. Kentucky is not a big football factory, but after all the tape is seen I think the guy will be the best all around pick at DE. THe other DE/OLB are better pure rushers, but I think this guy is better to help build a long standing defense with. Like I said, the one big surprise in my picks. Read more at http://walterfootball.com/Mocks/Mock/31151#B8Gf5ZMfhh9F6CYj.99 Why is it interesting? Well it is just a "reader mock" on Walter Football, but it was pre-combine from January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 the National Broad-jump League is in Lithuania I don't like the pot heads I don't like the character cases I don't like the guys with the dreaded "not very instinctive" label the biggest difference between the NFL and college is the speed of the game. lets stay away form they guy who doesn't play fast Dupree plays plenty fast and isn't one of those three things. The whole speed of the game thing is exactly why guys like Fowler and Ray aren't even close as prospects. They couldn't be as consistent or productive in college, they're nowhere near the athletes, why would any of that change in the pros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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