Jets being contacted for Wilkerson

[BP]

Keep mo!! This is crazy lol we get our secondary in line and now we want to trade the anchor of the line. Pay him the moolah

[Savage69]

Keep mo!! This is crazy lol we get our secondary in line and now we want to trade the anchor of the line. Pay him the moolah

You think Mo is the best guy on the Line I think Sheldon is..

[BP]

You think Mo is the best guy on the Line I think Sheldon is..

You don't think losing mo will effect sheldons play?

[Augustiniak]

Excellent point I think this draft should be all about making the offense better..

call me crazy, but i believe the jets will be in the mariotta game tomorrow, with an eye on peat if they lose.  the o-line needs upgrades at tackle, especially.  getting marshall probably means no wr in the first, though who knows how their board is stacked.  

 

if the jets want to trade mo, and they might for all we know, i'd guess they'd contact tennessee and go for it with mariotta.  

[DaBallhawk]

“We fully expect serious negotiations to take place once the NFL Draft is over,” a person close to Wilkerson’s camp told The Post. “Muhammad continues to work out with his personal trainer, and looks forward to remaining a Jet for the rest of his career.”

 

http://nypost.com/2015/04/28/jets-must-pay-wilkerson-or-theyll-squander-their-biggest-weapon/

 

Hoping this quote/source wasn't made up, because this sounds very encouraging.

[Scoop24]

http://nypost.com/2015/04/28/jets-must-pay-wilkerson-or-theyll-squander-their-biggest-weapon/

 

Hoping this quote/source wasn't made up, because this sounds very encouraging.

Best quote I read all week . Good find

[#27TheDominator]

http://nypost.com/2015/04/28/jets-must-pay-wilkerson-or-theyll-squander-their-biggest-weapon/

 

Hoping this quote/source wasn't made up, because this sounds very encouraging.

 

I'm sure it wasn't.  That is 100% what you would expect his people to say.  Emphasize that he is working out and not home on his couch eating bon bons and repeat the company line while acknowledging that he is not at the voluntary camp.  Unfortunately, it also really does not mean much other than that he is not burning his bridges like Peterson.

[Scoop24]

You think Mo is the best guy on the Line I think Sheldon is..

There Both Top 4 3-4 DE's Imo . As far as who is Better Sheldon charisma is gonna take him a lot further as far as accolades go . But Mo has a 10 sack season under his Belt and is pretty dominant VS the Run . He may not get the Accolades cause he is the Quiet type but I think he is equally as good .

[Villain The Foe]

No doubt it s gonna be a pricey deal . im sure it will take time to hammer out . But Macc doesn't sound concerned at all . He is already on record saying after the draft they will work it out .

All sources/ beat writers say Jets aren't trading Mo and it would pretty much take some rediculous offer for them to even entertain it . IE: Not Mike Glennon

Yeah, I doubt that Macc is concerned because he knows that he has the upper hand. At the end of the day Wilk is under contract and we can either keep him or trade him. His agent can do what he likes. 

[Villain The Foe]

who?

Brandon Marshall. 

[section314]

There Both Top 4 3-4 DE's Imo . As far as who is Better Sheldon charisma is gonna take him a lot further as far as accolades go . But Mo has a 10 sack season under his Belt and is pretty dominant VS the Run . He may not get the Accolades cause he is the Quiet type but I think he is equally as good .

 

They make each other better.

[chirorob]

Ellis was told by Herm to get real fat and move to dt to be his new warren sapp. That was a disaster and was his worst year ever. Herm made him take a step back lol and was never held accountable for that.

 

Herm was so desperate for his "Warren Sapp".  He totally screwed with Ellis, and you are correct, Herm wasted a year of his career, and if memory serves Ellis' next season wasn't that great as he struggled to get thin again.

[chirorob]

You think Mo is the best guy on the Line I think Sheldon is..

 

I think when you have 2 really good players, they can't both be double teamed, so it helps them both out.

 

That's why I find the Texans so intriguing.  Wilfat is old, but still can play the run.  If (huge if) Clowney can be good, not great but good, that D could be elite with Watt actually getting some help.

[DaBallhawk]

You don't think losing mo will effect sheldons play?

 

Sheldon had the best game of his career when Mo was out with 3 sacks and a safety vs the Vikings. He probably could have done a little better had Mo been on the field that day because he's a huge presence who takes double teams almost all the time, but I think both guys would be perfectly fine on their own. They don't need each other to reach their potential. Sheldon can be the player he wants to be whether Mo is here or not, and vice versa. You combine the 2 of them it makes it a little easier.

[#27TheDominator]

Ellis was told by Herm to get real fat and move to dt to be his new warren sapp. That was a disaster and was his worst year ever. Herm made him take a step back lol and was never held accountable for that.

 

 

Herm was so desperate for his "Warren Sapp".  He totally screwed with Ellis, and you are correct, Herm wasted a year of his career, and if memory serves Ellis' next season wasn't that great as he struggled to get thin again.

 

Typical disaster.  Take over a 3-4 team with great cover corners and mold them to your "vision"  Dump the cover corners for sh*tty big look-in tacklers like David Barrett, move Abraham back to DE after working him at OLB under Groh.  Make Ellis put on weight so that he could play the UT or Sapp role in the new mess.  Hell they had to give up a promising young tackle for the privilege of getting the Texans to take both Glenn and Coleman's contracts.  At least when Mangini took over the cupboard was bare, so the change back to 3-4 made some sense even if it did make DRob and Vilma square pegs in round holes.

[chirorob]

Typical disaster.  Take over a 3-4 team with great cover corners and mold them to your "vision"  Dump the cover corners for sh*tty big look-in tacklers like David Barrett, move Abraham back to DE after working him at OLB under Groh.  Make Ellis put on weight so that he could play the UT or Sapp role in the new mess.  Hell they had to give up a promising young tackle for the privilege of getting the Texans to take both Glenn and Coleman's contracts.  At least when Mangini took over the cupboard was bare, so the change back to 3-4 made some sense even if it did make DRob and Vilma square pegs in round holes.

 

Whole thing was a cluster.  Parcells left the team in a bad cap way, so things had to be changed.  But yeah, taking a good 3-4 defense and turning it into a 4-3 cover who was crap. 

 

Side note, I know that promising young tackle of whom you speak, really a great guy.

[Greensince69]

I do not think Mo is going anywhere unless Macc is blown away.  If Lenard Williams is still there at 6 by some miracle and San Diego wants to give us Rivers and their one for wilk you would have to think about it.

[Shockwave]

He isn't gonna cost JJ Watt money . Wilkerson isn't having 20 sacks in a year or winning DPOY awards. JJ watt is the Exception He is Arguably the Best Defensive Player on the League of Course doing what he does is gonna cost QB Money .

Mo will be right in that 50 million range if I to guess.

 

Mo is going to be in the range of 12-13m per year. 

 

If we are extremely lucky we are looking at a 5 year, 60 million dollar contract with 25m gaurenteed.  But dont be surprised if Mo ends up getting a 6 year, 80 million contract with over 30m gaurenteed.  Other contracts included here:

 

Other cap guys think Mo may be higher. 

 

 

From Wilkerson’s side the price has likely gone up in light of recent contracts signed in the NFL and more specifically signed by the Jets. The Jets went on a wild spending spree this offseason that included $16 million a season to Darrelle Revis, $8 million to Antonio Cromartie, $7.5 million to David Harris, and over $6 million to 3rd string corner Buster Skrine. With the market for defensive linemen being completely turned on its head with the Dolphins QB like contract with Ndamukong Suh there is no reason for Wilkerson to hold to any contract based on numbers from 2014. If Wilkerson sees himself as the leader of the defense then there is almost no reason to settle for much less than $16 million a year and with a very large guarantee that mimics those of Revis (55.6%) and Harris (69.8%) in terms of percentage of contract truly guaranteed.

In hindsight, this really was a contract the Jets needed to get done last season regardless of Idzik’s status. All the uncertaintly of free agencies impact on the team would have been avoided and they likely could have gotten him done at a better price for the team.  Why they did not focus on him is still a bit of a mystery to me.

http://overthecap.com/jets-wilkerson-to-skip-offseason-workouts/

 

In the end Mo's contract should have been done last offseason along with the better players in his class. You never wait to sign his caliber of player. Sheldon needs to get extended as soon as the CBA allows. 

[Shockwave]

LT's can play well beyond 35.  this isn't the year for that.  there will be another peat next year.  when you can get elite talent, you stick and pick

Orlando Pace and Jonathan Ogden who were both significantly better then Dbrick played until 34. So think about Dbrick being 33 years old next year and having a cap number of 14m. The writing is on the wall: Dbricks time here is likely ending this year.

 

Im also not sure I agree with you about "Elite Talent"? Unless Leonard Williams falls I don't see any of these guys really being elite like players in years past. The QB's and De's all have their warts - And you could get a very good WR into round 3 this year which makes a ton of sense being that at best hell be our number 3 wideout. 

[GREENBEAN]

Ok how about All Pro that's not voted on by fans and Revis was traded because of money and Mo is no Revis talent wise.. I like Mo and hope he stays but he has to stop thinking he's worth a elite contact like Watt got out of his head..

Wouldn't it be something if we traded Revis to Tampa for their number 1 pick?  LOL   

[#27TheDominator]

Orlando Pace and Jonathan Ogden who were both significantly better then Dbrick played until 34. So think about Dbrick being 33 years old next year and having a cap number of 14m. The writing is on the wall: Dbricks time here is likely ending this year.

 

 

Eh.  Pace didn't play a full season for five years before he hung them up.  He was hardly similar to Brick who isn't missing snaps, let alone games.  Ogden retired because he was tired of beating up his body and "had nothing left to prove" but he made the pro bowl his last season.  I hardly think they are reasons Brick won't play past 34.  He will still have significant dead money to cut him in 2016, so while it is a possibility, I don't think it is a slam dunk that he will be gone. I guess maybe I would agree with your "likely" scenario.  FWIW, I think Brick  can and will be playing past 34.  I'm just not sure where.

[Scoop24]

FWIW Mo was a 2nd team All Pro 2013

[SickJetFan]

maybe sheldon is only as good when wilks long arms always taking up 2 OL

[Tinstar]

Saints offer me a 1 and a 3 or 4 for Wilkerson and he's playing in Nawlins next season . Especially if we're playing a 4 man front.

[UnitedWhofans]

You don't overpay merely good players. Wilkerson wants to be paid Suh/Watt money, and he isn't ever going to merit that.While the Jets have a good cap situation right now, they won't for long overvaluing their talent. Overpaying Wilkerson would be just that. 

That's what Lupica said on the radio. Watt's contract has inflated everybody even though they are not at Watt's level.

[BurnleyJet]

I'm big on trading Mo rather then paying him 80-90 mill next year.

[BroadwayJoe12]

Just for the record, do we even have a ballpark of what Wilkerson is actually asking for, or is this just straight conjecture?

[SickJetFan]

I'm big on trading Mo rather then paying him 80-90 mill next year.

I guess one of the advantages of not having a franchise QB is you dont have to pay them

 

Maybe we cant throw TDs but maybe we sh pay some big guys up front so at least we might break some legs?

[Larz]

Orlando Pace and Jonathan Ogden who were both significantly better then Dbrick played until 34. So think about Dbrick being 33 years old next year and having a cap number of 14m. The writing is on the wall: Dbricks time here is likely ending this year.

 

Im also not sure I agree with you about "Elite Talent"? Unless Leonard Williams falls I don't see any of these guys really being elite like players in years past. The QB's and De's all have their warts - And you could get a very good WR into round 3 this year which makes a ton of sense being that at best hell be our number 3 wideout. 

 

it's really very simple.  you don't have to replace brick this off season, so you don't.  LT's play week 1 of their rookie season, just like brick did.  

 

white and beasley are freaks.   I stay at 6 and pray for one of them.

[drdetroit]

Wilk and the 6 pick for Winston.

[Villain The Foe]

Yes you did. This was a discussion you were leading well over a month ago.  If the Jets pulled this together and added Glennon to the mix I would have to consider more deeply just who the f*ck you are. 

Just read an article based on the Jets interest in Andrus Peat, they could trade down the draft for Peat then offer D'Brick to Tampa for Glennon and that D'Brick would only count as 1.28 million in dead cap. Bucs would only trade Glennon after securing a QB (Winston/Mariota) in the draft. 

 

It seems that there are 3 to 4 teams in the running for Glennon. 

 

Browns

Bills 

Jets 

Tennessee (If they dont draft Mariota or trade for Rivers)

[dbatesman]

I say we send Wilkerson to Tampa for Glennon and a 2nd, then flip Glennon and #6 overall to Tampa for Jameis, then send Jameis and Mangold plus a future first to Tampa for Glennon again. Boom contender

[DaBallhawk]

Orlando Pace and Jonathan Ogden who were both significantly better then Dbrick played until 34. So think about Dbrick being 33 years old next year and having a cap number of 14m. The writing is on the wall: Dbricks time here is likely ending this year.

 

Ogden fell apart before he retired, which is WHY he retired. Pace fell apart before he retired, which is WHY he retired. Brick is still playing at a very high level. Let's see how he does this season before we go into what happens 2 seasons from now. It's silly to even look that far down the road. We'll have enough time to discuss Brick next offseason.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

I say we send Wilkerson to Tampa for Glennon and a 2nd, then flip Glennon and #6 overall to Tampa for Jameis, then send Jameis and Mangold plus a future first to Tampa for Glennon again. Boom contender

This is what I thought too, but then Maccagnan said something about quarterbacks in the press conference so it's obviously a smokescreen and we will be running single wing this season.

[GREENBEAN]

Just read an article based on the Jets interest in Andrus Peat, they could trade down the draft for Peat then offer D'Brick to Tampa for Glennon and that D'Brick would only count as 1.28 million in dead cap. Bucs would only trade Glennon after securing a QB (Winston/Mariota) in the draft. 

 

It seems that there are 3 to 4 teams in the running for Glennon. 

 

Browns

Bills 

Jets 

Tennessee (If they dont draft Mariota or trade for Rivers)

i wouldn't want to see the Jets trade D'brick man. The guy has been a rock solid , injury free mainstay at an extremely important position. Even for a highly rated draft pick. Ferguson may be on a slow decline but he is still one of the better LT's in the game.

I'm with you on the Glennon train but would hate to create a hole to fill in the 1st rd in the draft to get him. trade a 4th and Darren Walls or something to that affect. Maybe just a 3rd straight up.