ghost_in_pads02 174 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Let's see how he does in the 10 games he's not suspended for in 2015 with properly inflated footballs. Me thinks you may be in for a rude awakening. we seen it in the superbowl...he beat the best defense in the league and won another ring! ha ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deucebag 459 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Pats without Brady will be a sub .500 team - as BB IS as a HC.... Been there done that - remember Matt Cassell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyjets782 218 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 And the Pats still easily win the AFCE. No big deal whatsoever. Of course, because they have at least 5 or 6 other systematic means of cheating going on elsewhere in that organization. The players change, the coaches change and the success continues... there's a reason that not one coach or player has left that organization and found anywhere close to the success they had when they were in that organization and that includes the head coach. They are known proven cheaters and frauds. No matter how many times people like you try to shout from the hilltops to convince people of your team's legitimacy, it will never matter. That must tear you up inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFanInDenver 799 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 If the commish is worried about the integrity of the game, How can Brady be allowed to step on a football field again. How can Belichick get away without being suspended for ONE whole season. It's already established IGNORANCE is not an excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 The more and more i read this report the more it becomes apparent that Tom Brady and the Patriots did their best to no co-operate with the investigation. Brady did not submit his phone as required. Pats counsel denied to make McNally available for a follow up interview which was sought by the investigators. Then i read Robert Kraft's reaction "“Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome." And the rest of Kraft's press statement was disgraceful. There is no way to look at the report and come up with any other conclusion than they cheated and Brady orchestrated it. he should be embarrassed for continuing this level of denial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 we seen it in the superbowl...he beat the best defense in the league and won another ring! ha ha threw 2 INT's... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack48 8,119 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Yeah so they get a slap on the wrist when there is video catching them red handed... do you really think anything significant will come out of this? Not a chance. the deflated balls have already been recycled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deucebag 459 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Been there done that - remember Matt Cassell But my point is, if you are cheating - anybody could be your QB and you still win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 we seen it in the superbowl...he beat the best defense in the league and won another ring! ha ha Let's get one thing straight. The Seahawks lost the Super Bowl. The Pats didn't "beat" anyone that day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_in_pads02 174 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 threw 2 INT's... and won another SB mvp and went like 12 for 13 in the 4th.....(something to that affect) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatsFanTX 29,854 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Let's see how he does in the 10 games he's not suspended for in 2015 with properly inflated footballs. You mean like how he performed against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl? Dumb comment Kleck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Harper 3,855 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 this is why they waited until after the draft heavy draft pick removal for NEXT year so they can plan... I would rather have them lose their pick in a year when they are not picking 32nd. And chances are better that it will be a much better pick that they will lose if Brady is suspended for a few games, as he should be. I would guess 4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j4jets 2,159 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 **************************************** Yes. Should be titled "Proof that Brady likes softer balls" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Schroy 3,626 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 These Patsy trolls are funny. Like circus clowns. It looks like there will be suspensions. Some of those texts are unreal. The other shoe is about to drop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_in_pads02 174 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Let's get one thing straight. The Seahawks lost the Super Bowl. The Pats didn't "beat" anyone that day. sure...you are welcome to your opinion. We will let you think that is how it is.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 These Patsy trolls are funny. Like circus clowns. It looks like there will be suspensions. Some of those texts are unreal. The other shoe is about to drop. A season each for Brady and Bellichick and a 1st rounder. Has to be equivalent to the Saints...otherwise it's weak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 You mean like how he performed against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl? Dumb comment Kleck. Throwing 2 picks, needing an historically bad play call to "win?" A great QB. like Joe Montana, leaves no doubt. He plays mistake free football when it matters most and he's facing another Hall of Famer in a championship game. Tom Brady is a fraud. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFanInDenver 799 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Kraft's entire statement presented below with no comment. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued the following statement Wednesday regarding the Wells report: “When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 -- over 14 weeks ago -- I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. “I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. “What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under-inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. “Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship Game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. “While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 sure...you are welcome to your opinion. We will let you think that is how it is.... Unlike you I watched that game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j4jets 2,159 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I would rather have them lose their pick in a year when they are not picking 32nd. And chances are better that it will be a much better pick that they will lose if Brady is suspended for a few games, as he should be. I would guess 4. Yeah radio hosts are also thinking 4 games jnitially and then an appeal that might reduce it to 2 games. This is Brady's 2nd major violation. He knew every bit of what was going on with spygate since he was getting the signals. Maybe he wasn't the mastermind behind it, but he certainly was the biggest beneficiary of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Prediction - Brady gets suspended for a year and decides to retire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Fan RI 410 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Yea, damning evidence consists of alot of "possibly, probably, maybe, and could be's". Not one bit of concrete evidence whatsoever. Fortunately, none is needed, This is not a court of law. There is quite enough here to justify severe punishment. And that is all the more so due to their previous penalization for cheating. Expect much worse punishment for a second offense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Kraft's entire statement presented below with no comment. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued the following statement Wednesday regarding the Wells report: “When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 -- over 14 weeks ago -- I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. “I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. “What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under-inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. “Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship Game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. “While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.” What an arrogant douche. Even Kraft is a ****in' troll. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Kraft's entire statement presented below with no comment. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued the following statement Wednesday regarding the Wells report: “When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 -- over 14 weeks ago -- I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. “I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. “What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under-inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. “Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship Game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. “While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.” Sounds like a petulant child that got his hand caught in the cookie jar. Be a man Kraft...sickening. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,396 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 What an arrogant douche. Even Kraft is a ****in' troll. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetlife33 4,723 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Kraft should be embarrassed. Ass clown. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j4jets 2,159 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Kraft's entire statement presented below with no comment. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued the following statement Wednesday regarding the Wells report: “When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 -- over 14 weeks ago -- I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. “I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. “What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under-inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. “Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship Game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. “While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.” What a cocksucking hypocrite this bastard is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. BOB KRAFT IS A DELUSIONAL IDIOT!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Who trucks with serial domestic abusers and murderers. RELEGATE THE PATS! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,046 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 This would (should) be handled like a Civil Trail would. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is not required. Only a "preponderance of evidence", i.e. >50% chance they're guilty. The report clearly says it meets that second burden. If Tom Brady gets anything less than a year, it's an absolute fraud. Bellichek might skate (he shouldn;t, see The Saints for why), but he might. But the two ballmen should be banned for life, and Brady banned a year. Minimum. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,977 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 The lack of accountability by an owner of an NFL franchise is discraceful. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bruce Harper 3,855 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Prediction - Brady gets suspended for a year and decides to retire. Would absolutely love this to happen, but will not happen. He is too much of an asset to the NFL. He will get a wrist-slap. But I would also like to see draft pick(s). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,396 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Who trucks with serial domestic abusers and murderers. RELEGATE THE PATS! To be fair. We did trade for Brandon Marshall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j4jets 2,159 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 A season each for Brady and Bellichick and a 1st rounder. Has to be equivalent to the Saints...otherwise it's weak. Spygate = Blatant Cheating = 1st rounder Bounty gate = physical football = bans n suspensions Deflategate = 2nd occurrence of cheating = 20k fine Only makes sense. Play tough football n get banned or cheat n win SBs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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