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It's not the drug test with Greg. He has some medical issues teams are not allowed to discuss, from what I've heard. That combined with mental weakness. Unless someone reaches for him, I can see him drop in the 50s (past mid 2nd round).

I rather we go with Jalen Strong or even Beckham.

Not mental weakness...sounds more like he might suffer from mental illness. If that is the case, the pot smoking could be a form of "self-medicating." A common result of mental illness.

I am just spit-balling here but some mental illnesses are treated with mood stabilizers like lithium or comparable drugs. Others are treated with anti-depressants or valium types. Given the NFL's strict policies, if there is a drug or combination that could help, it might be a banned substance.

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I would like to see Bryce Petty come in with our 2nd pick.  We have to have another option at QB besides Fitz and Geno. 

Yes we've ignored offense for close to a decade. But we are one pass rusher away from a near perfect defense. It's like eating the last bite of the cookie, just do it lol

Yes. Give me Devin Smith over Jaelen Strong all day. 

Not mental weakness...sounds more like he might suffer from mental illness. If that is the case, the pot smoking could be a form of "self-medicating." A common result of mental illness.

I am just spit-balling here but some mental illnesses are treated with mood stabilizers like lithium or comparable drugs. Others are treated with anti-depressants or valium types. Given the NFL's strict policies, if there is a drug or combination that could help, it might be a banned substance.

That's what I meant and it's very unfortunate for him. Who knows, maybe he turns it around and becomes a happy man playing the game he loves and the millions it'll bring him.

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That's what I meant and it's very unfortunate for him. Who knows, maybe he turns it around and becomes a happy man playing the game he loves and the millions it'll bring him.

Making millions wont make someone who is mentally ill happy. The most recent example is Robin Williams. It is a lifelong war. A person can win the war, but all lose many battles along the way. Losing a battle during an NFL season will render a player basically useless.

Not trying to pick you apart... but I know more than most about this topic. The NFL doctors know what they are dealing with, if the rumors are correct.

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I would think if your ex-girlfriend was killed, you'd have to be a suspect by default... not that he's guilty, but if there's no clear cut suspect it'd make sense.

She was also 29 (IIRC) and he's what 22 at the most? I was rather surprised by the age difference since he's still in college and he impregnated an older woman as opposed to the cliché HS girlfriend or college peer.

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Making millions wont make someone who is mentally ill happy. The most recent example is Robin Williams. It is a lifelong war. A person can win the war, but all lose many battles along the way. Losing a battle during an NFL season will render a player basically useless.

It's all about perception, the surrounding and the lifestyle. If it's psychological, then you never know what can fix the issue. Until we know the exact cause, it's hard to judge him. That's why I'm expecting the worst with his situation hoping he can rise from it wherever he may go.

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DGB even with the 37th pick is a huge risk with all his issues.  He is a big weed suspension risk, has domestic violence history, and supposedly performed very poorly in draft visits when called up to the whiteboard.  I'd take him in the 3rd/4th round maybe but not the 2nd.  His talent is tantalizing and if he had his head on straight, he'd be a top 10 pick, but again this guy sounds a lot like Josh Gordon with the same type of baggage.

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It's all about perception, the surrounding and the lifestyle. If it's psychological, then you never know what can fix the issue. Until we know the exact cause, it's hard to judge him. That's why I'm expecting the worst with his situation hoping he can rise from it wherever he may go.

We dont know the cause. But my point is that mental illness cannot be "fixed." It can be maintained, but even when it is managed properly... it always rears its unfortunate head occasionally.

Think the Raiders center Robbins that went AWOL before the Super Bowl and wound up hospitalized.

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I'm hoping for Dorial Green Beckham or Landon Collins... if none of them are there then Gregory.  

Landon Collins is a SS.  I know we're doing this BPA thing but we're not drafting a Safety in round 2 after taking Calvin Pryor in the first 12 months ago.

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I won't be surprised if the JETS trade down tomorrow and acquire some additional picks in the 4th to 6th round's.

 

I know i am hoping we take a WR but i wont be surprised if the JETS only start looking at WR in the 4th or 7th round OR the 6th round if they have any picks.

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We dont know the cause. But my point is that mental illness cannot be "fixed." It can be maintained, but even when it is managed properly... it always rears its unfortunate head occasionally.

Think the Raiders center Robbins that went AWOL before the Super Bowl and wound up hospitalized.

From what I've heard/read, he has stress and depression. Yes they won't go away but by "fixing", I mean controlling it. How severe is it? I don't know. He played in college at a high level for 2 years I believe. Not a huge same size but I think he can be maintained in the NFL with proper counseling and right medication approved within the league.

Risk and reward and the risk has dropped significantly from a top 10 pick to possibly a mid 2 round pick.

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OTs Collins or the Flrida guy

WRs: Strong, Smith , Lockette. DGB if he's there in the 4th or 5th.

 

I think Collins as well, hope they are furiously checking out his situation behind the scenes.

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If we draft more defense I'm tying a noose around my testicles, attaching it to the roof of my house, and jumping off.

 

We have no qb. Do you honestly think we're beating teams through a high powered offense? Might as well load up on the defense and hope we can beat teams 6-3.

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Gregory in the 2nd, DBG in the third

Gregory is talented BUT.......I was tipped by a friend who works at a place where the psychiatrist was hired by the Jets to examine potential draft picks.  It so happens Gregory was one of the players brought in by the Jets to be examined.  Word is that Gregory is a nice kid, nice person BUT has 'serious issues' and has difficulty being able to cope with adversity.    :confused0085:

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Best remaining players for Round 2:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
15. La'el Collins, OT, LSU: 6-4 1/2, 305 pounds, 5.10 40
21. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State: 6-2 3/8, 217 pounds, 4.41 40
23. Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska: 6-4 7/8, 235 pounds, 4.61 40
25. Landon Collins, SS, Alabama: 6-0, 228 pounds, 4.31 40
30. Jalen Collins, CB, LSU: 6-1 1/2, 203 pounds, 4.44 40
31. Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma: 6-5 1/4, 329 pounds, 5.15 40
32. Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State: 6-foot-3 7/8, 336 pounds, 5.27 40
33. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon: 6-6 1/8, 306 pounds, 4.97 40
34. Donovan Smith, OL, Penn State: 6-5 5/8, 338 pounds, 5.18 40
36. Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia: 6-3 1/8, 247 pounds, 4.58 40
37. Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State: 6-0 3/8, 196 pounds, 4.37 40
39. Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State: 6-4 1/8, 246 pounds, 4.62 40
42. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh: 6-4 3/4, 309 pounds, 5.12 40
43. D'Joun Smith, CB, Florida Atlantic: 5-10, 187 pounds, 4.37 40
44. Eric Rowe, DB, Utah: 6-0 3/4, 205 pounds, 4.37 40
45. Preston Smith, DE, Mississippi State: 6-4 7/8, 271 pounds, 4.71 40
46. Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana: 5-11 3/8, 206 pounds
47. Ronald Darby, DB, Florida State: 5-10 5/8, 193 pounds, 4.37 40
48. Denzel Perryman, LB, Miami: 5-10 3/4, 236 pounds, 4.68 40
49. Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA: 6-3 1/2, 267 pounds, 4.56 40/p/>
50. Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA: 6-0 1/4, 232 pounds, 4.59 40
51. Danielle Hunter, DE, LSU: 6-5 1/8, 252 pounds, 4.56 40
52. Chris Conley, WR, Georgia: 6-1 7/8, 213 pounds, 4.33 40
53. Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor: 6-2 7/8, 230 pounds, 4.81 40
54. Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota: 6-3 7/8, 249 pounds, 4.78 40
55. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri: 6-5 1/8, 237 pounds, 4.43 40
57. Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State: 6-2, 293 pounds, 5.01 40
58. Mario Edwards, Jr., DT, Florida State: 6-2 5/8, 279 pounds, 4.76 40
59. Carl Davis, DT, Iowa: 6-4 5/8, 320 pounds, 5.14 40
60. Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State: 5-11 3/4, 221 pounds, 4.52 40
61. Duke Johnson, RB, Miami (Fla.): 5-9 1/8, 207 pounds, 4.50 40
63. P.J. Williams, DB, Florida State: 6-0, 194 pounds, 4.53 40
65. Nate Orchard, DE, Utah: 6-3 1/4, 250 pounds, 4.80 40
66. Ameer Abdullah, RB, Nebraska: 5-8 3/4, 205 pounds, 4.50 40
 
Lucas on JetNation thinks we should go Devin Smith, he's a burner and has amazing hands.

 

 
I say its one of these. Risk pick would be Collins, Petty, Gregory or Beckham.  Safe pick would be Fisher, Strong Harold, Kendricks, Orchard. I go with Petty. 
I'm sick and tired of watching Geno 'I'm a Pro Bowl Qb" Smith.
 
15. La'el Collins, OT, LSU: 6-4 1/2, 305 pounds, 5.10 40
21. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State: 6-2 3/8, 217 pounds, 4.41 40
23. Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska: 6-4 7/8, 235 pounds, 4.61 40
33. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon: 6-6 1/8, 306 pounds, 4.97 40
34. Donovan Smith, OL, Penn State: 6-5 5/8, 338 pounds, 5.18 40
36. Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia: 6-3 1/8, 247 pounds, 4.58 40
37. Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State: 6-0 3/8, 196 pounds, 4.37 40
39. Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State: 6-4 1/8, 246 pounds, 4.62 40
42. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh: 6-4 3/4, 309 pounds, 5.12 40

50. Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA: 6-0 1/4, 232 pounds, 4.59 40

53. Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor: 6-2 7/8, 230 pounds, 4.81 40
55. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri: 6-5 1/8, 237 pounds, 4.43 40

65. Nate Orchard, DE, Utah: 6-3 1/4, 250 pounds, 4.80 40

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Gregory is talented BUT.......I was tipped by a friend who works at a place where the psychiatrist was hired by the Jets to examine potential draft picks.  It so happens Gregory was one of the players brought in by the Jets to be examined.  Word is that Gregory is a nice kid, nice person BUT has 'serious issues' and has difficulty being able to cope with adversity.    :confused0085:

 

I was being facetious, I think they'll go oline with the next pick.

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Gregory, DGB, Devin Smith, Jalen Strong I'm cool with any these 4.

 

heard the jets are real high Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State during the draft process something to watch ..

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I honestly can't see how they go defense with the 2nd round pick - we are stacked there, even a pass rusher is a luxury given our secondary will boost our sack numbers by default, especially with the addition of Williams.

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I like Eli Harold, Preston smith, Nate orchard, Donovan smith or jake fisher here. Strong just can't seperate and green beckham is off my board. The things I'm reading about Gregory scare me but if they take him I'll understand. The guy is massively talented but his weight scares me at olb.

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I don't follow college football that closely but I know some on here were saying Devin Funchess would be a steal in the 2nd round.  I didn't see him drafted in the 1st.  Maybe we pick him in the 2nd?  Or has too much other talent (e.g. Gregory, DGB) fallen to round 2 that Funchess maybe no longer is the pick?

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Yes we've ignored offense for close to a decade. But we are one pass rusher away from a near perfect defense. It's like eating the last bite of the cookie, just do it lol

You hit the nail on the head. I want a RB and WR so bad it hurts, yet an OLB like Harold or Mckinney is so tempting.

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I don't follow college football that closely but I know some on here were saying Devin Funchess would be a steal in the 2nd round.  I didn't see him drafted in the 1st.  Maybe we pick him in the 2nd?  Or has too much other talent (e.g. Gregory, DGB) fallen to round 2 that Funchess maybe no longer is the pick?

 

problem is your not sure if he is a WR or TE. if he is a WR he is slow and if he is a TE he is undersized.  so pick your poison

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