HessStation Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · 2m2 minutes ago #Jets have signed Syracuse safety Durell Eskridge. #nyj another kid that was suppose to get drafted. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 is there a story behind your username ? He likes banging dead chicks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 can anybody help me with the kick return game ? who would be our punt returner ? who would be or kick returner ? if we don't have one, anybody out there as UDFA ? Walter Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Justin Manton, Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 can anybody help me with the kick return game ? who would be our punt returner ? who would be or kick returner ? if we don't have one, anybody out there as UDFA ? Smith?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Long time lurker, figured I'd join. Info on UDFA signing Julian Howsare. Another hard worker/strong character guy: http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/julian-howsare-ready-for-nfl-opportunity-after-career-at-clarion/18057 Welcome aboard. Sounds Jason Trusnik like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 TCU CB Kevin White to Falcons. Nice signing by Falcons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm surprised at how many UDFA's we're signing. Especially on the defensive side of the ball because I don't see many spots open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Walter Powell. We aren't going to waste a roster spot on a guy who only returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Reese Dismukes (thought he had a pretty good grade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1m1 minute ago Bottom line for Collins - no way he was going to be able to get back in draft, and getting to pick his team now at his time makes sense Couldn't the Jets use a 7th on this guy just as a precaution? Damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 We aren't going to waste a roster spot on a guy who only returns He asked for a name. As of today he's still on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1m1 minute ago Bottom line for Collins - no way he was going to be able to get back in draft, and getting to pick his team now at his time makes sense Couldn't the Jets use a 7th on this guy just as a precaution? Damn! If he doesn't get picked up as a UDFA how petrified must the whole league be??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 If he doesn't get picked up as a UDFA how petrified must the whole league be??? I still wouldn't be surprised if Goodell is involved with this after the whole Hernandez, Rice, Hardy debacles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I still wouldn't be surprised if Goodell is involved with this after the whole Hernandez, Rice, Hardy debacles! Sirius NFL Radio made a good comment the other day. The sight to the other 31 owners of Kraft testifying in the Hernandez trial could be enough to stay away from him until further information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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56mehl56 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 can anybody help me with the kick return game ? who would be our punt returner ? who would be or kick returner ? if we don't have one, anybody out there as UDFA ? Owusu for KR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 . Well said! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Long time lurker, figured I'd join. Info on UDFA signing Julian Howsare. Another hard worker/strong character guy: http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/julian-howsare-ready-for-nfl-opportunity-after-career-at-clarion/18057 Thanks for the info, and welcome to JN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 What has been a trying and turbulent week for potential first-round pick La'el Collins, actually came to the best possible outcome when the NFL Draft ended without him selected. Collins, now an undrafted free agent, will have the opportunity to select his own team as an undrafted free agent. He can now avoid any media crush that would come from being drafted at a time when he has yet to be questioned by police in regards to the murder of a former acquaintance may have been carrying his child at the time of her death, and, believe it or not, it will also reward him in some ways financially as well. The reality is, by not being drafted in the latter stages of this draft – when some teams were considering him despite the lingering legal situation – Collins is actually in excellent shape to dictate the start of his career and bear considerable fiscal rewards as well. Sure, he won't come close to pocketing millions in signing bonuses as he would have had he gone in the first round. That was a virtual certainty prior to his name surfacing as someone the police wanted information from (he is not a suspect), but there was no way to prevent that. Had he been drafted in the final four rounds of the draft today, however, he stood to lose out substantially more on several levels than he will by going undrafted. Kudos to his representatives for telling teams Collins would not sign if drafted Saturday. While it may not have precluded teams from taking him, the reality is had someone used a seventh-round comp pick on Collins he would have lost out. Besides avoiding the media glare, he can now focus on getting the situation resolved – he will meet with police this week in Louisiana – and then choose which team he wants to sign with (a bevy of clubs will pursue him hotly as an undrafted free agent if fully exonerated). Collins now will get to free agency after three years, instead of four had he been drafted. And if he is anything close to the kind of player teams expect from someone who could have been selected anywhere from 9th to 25th prior to this situation arising, then undoubtedly he will be getting a significant restricted free agent tender following the 2017 season. That is of course if he isn't signed to a massive deal befitting a starting tackle with first-round talent; assuming he plays to expectations and avoids injuries. La'el Collins can get to big money faster as a UDFA than a late-round pick. (USATSI) That factor cannot be understated, but, even beyond that, when you crunch the numbers on what his base salary is projecting the growth of the rookie pool as well as projecting the value of the 2018 first-round tender, the second-round tender and the original draft tenders, Collins stands to fair considerably better than players drafted in the second or third rounds should he have a solid NFL career. It's also conceivable that if he is a strong starter handed a lower tender, another team could put together a lucrative offer sheet to try to pry him away. If you run some numbers for projections on how much the rookie pool may grow and how future RFA tenders may increase, Collins stands to be in far better position that most would assume. Consider that based on a 5 percent growth in the pool, a first round tender for Collins would cost $3.9 million in year four and he would make $5.46 million over four years, virtually identical to the 42nd pick. Again, if Collins is close to the player he is expected to be, the first round tender would be no surprise. With a second round tender he'd make $2.7 million in 2018 and $4.3 million over four years. The 53rd pick, for instance, would come in at $4.2 million in this scenario. If Collins gets tendered at his original level, he'd make $3.6 million over four years. The 66th pick would have made $3.37 million in that span. Maybe 5 percent will be a little high, so let's go on the low end and say the pool grows by just 2.5 percent. Collins still would fair well compared to other draft slots. A first round tender for Collins in this case would be worth $3.6 million, he would make $5.19 million over four years, and the 45th pick, for instance, would have earned $5.16 million in that span. A second round tender would net Collins $4.12 million over four years; the 55th pick will have earned $4.05M. An original round tender would be worth $1.67M in 2018 and Collins would make $3.24M over four years; the 70th pick, for instance, would earn $3.22M in that span. Let's say the growth is 10 percent on the high end. Well, then Collins would make $4.5 million in 2018 on a first round tender, and $6 million over four years, more than say the 35th pick in this year's draft will have earned in that span. A second round tender at this rate would mean Collins makes $4.7 million over four years, while the 49th pick will have pocketed $4.67M in that span. An original round tender would net Collins $3.6M over four years, while the 65thpick would be at $3.4M in that span. It's obviously still not an ideal situation, but by massaging his way out of the third day of the draft and into unrestricted free agency now, it could be by far the best of what is by its very nature a brutal situation. His team will be forced to make an economic decision on him after three years, and that's likely to be a lucrative extension. And even at the RFA tenders for 2018, he'd be making in many cases three times in that year what players drafted in the second and third round are earning in that year. Yes, he will be locked into base salaries of $435,000 in 2016 and $525,000 in 2017 and $615,000 in 2017, and he won't get any bonuses. But the contracts for third-day draft picks are just as locked in. Collins gains greatly through the potential tenders down the road, and by getting to pick his team on his timeline whenever he is ready to move forward, there are some definite advantages to that versus having someone own is rights for the next four years right now on a seventh-round contract. I can promise you this – there are plenty of teams who would love to sign him right now, and plenty who believe he will be a very capable starting tackle in the league. The initial financial damage – however unavoidable – is very real, but on virtually any level, he is in a markedly better position today having not been drafted in rounds 4-7, which clearly was not lost on his agents, and in hindsight I'm even more surprised some club didn't take a flier on him in the last round even with his legal status not totally resolved. If he's the player most expect, big money will be coming his way after his third season in all likelihood, and if nothing else his RFA tender in 2018 at the very least will put his total compensation over his first four years above what many will get in that span despite them being drafted on day two of the draft process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 i would pay Collins a good amount of money to bring him in.. You can only give them a max $90k signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Owusu for KR that seems like slim pickings, lol well the good news is we have until late august to find them ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Let the Steiny love begin!! This guy will be touting each player as an All-Pro! LOL Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · 52s52 seconds ago View translation #Jets UDFA: DE/OLB @JulianHowsare. DE @DBarnes_18. LB @TJ_Spartan34. TE @Juice_Supreme. S @DurellEskridge. DE @mr_rockytop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Well said! lol My best work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Brian Bassett @Brian_Bassett 7m7 minutes ago Jets Nation: Maccagnan on Day 3 of draft http://bit.ly/1bPnqlv #Jets #NFL Talks Petty and Stacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Let the Steiny love begin!! This guy will be touting each player as an All-Pro! LOL Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · 52s52 seconds ago View translation #Jets UDFA: DE/OLB @JulianHowsare. DE @DBarnes_18. LB @TJ_Spartan34. TE @Juice_Supreme. S @DurellEskridge. DE @mr_rockytop. I have high hopes for Juice_Supreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Still want that Punter Loomos from Portland State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 I have high hopes for Juice_Supreme. TJ_Spartan34 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Still want that Punter Loomos from Portland Statewe really need a new punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I have high hopes for Juice_Supreme. I heard he lacks concentration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 So now can Collins ask for any kinda contract, or is he still under the rookie wage scale thing? problem is UDFA contract are drawn from a maximum pool of signing bonuses, I believe, which limits what can be done. I am no expert, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 did Alani Fua get drafted??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If he doesn't get picked up as a UDFA how petrified must the whole league be??? Absolutely. No team was willing to take a flyer on him? I don't think for a moment that teams do not have their own private investigators who can get the inside scoop. It is ferquently: interview based on a general connection--> person of interest-->suspect. He's could wind up playing at Angola on a long term guaranteed contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Long time lurker, figured I'd join. Info on UDFA signing Julian Howsare. Another hard worker/strong character guy: http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/julian-howsare-ready-for-nfl-opportunity-after-career-at-clarion/18057 Thanks for the info! Welcome aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 did Alani Fua get drafted??? Nope, still available I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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