joewilly12 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yes BB is a dirtbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Bill is being punished by losing Brady 4 games and losing draft picks, as much as I hate the Pats* and him I cant justify punishing him for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 What about that mastermind they have on the team behind all the cheating? His name escapes me. His name is Ernie Adams. He's a football statistical savant that's been by Belichicks side since they met at Navy I believe. He's the dude that comes up with all this obscure minutia that seems to give New England the edge in bad weather games. Anyone who believes that Bill Belichick doesn't KNOW that a soft ball is easier to hand in wet & cold games at Gillette is kidding themselves. Belichick is one of the technical coaches in the league. He doesn't miss a trick. This was a slap on the wrist by not also suspending Belichick. Brady will arbitrate down to 2 games. Pats won the freaking Super Bowl & it cost a million dollars (totally worth it). Belichick will get back that 4th rounder trading back once. Really, the only stinging penalty was a 1st round pick. Pats got off easy compared to the Saints who lost their freaking head coach for an entire year! That was based on the fact that "ignorance isn't an excuse". Shouldn't that apply to the cheating Pats coach with having to be disciplined for the 2nd time in 10 years. Total BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 i read that to say "punched in the face" instead of "punished" when i first looked at it the answer to both is yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Sitting, not falling. Lol that's kinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Bill is being punished by losing Brady 4 games and losing draft picks, as much as I hate the Pats* and him I cant justify punishing him for this one. He masterminded the whole thing. Sean Payton got a year because a linebacker he coached did something. This Brady punishment bs is the biggest maneuver. Kraft's lawyers drew up the whole thing and told Goodell to do it so he wouldn't seem to have a conflict of interest. Who knows how much evidence was suppressed. Text messages by third party ball boys give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 He masterminded the whole thing. Sean Payton got a year because a linebacker he coached did something. This Brady punishment bs is the biggest maneuver. Kraft's lawyers drew up the whole thing and told Goodell to do it so he wouldn't seem to have a conflict of interest. Who knows how much evidence was suppressed. Text messages by third party ball boys give me a break. Sounds like your trying to make up a conspiracy theory, With the over 200 pages written on deflategate there was no evidence pointing at even the idea that BB knew anything about what was going on. Again I hate the entire organization but I also cant justify punishing someone over something they more probably than not did not do. As far as suppressed evidence we already know Tom refused to share his phone or any of the texts that were on it so yes I am sure there was information that was missed in the report but without that information you can only suspect it exists but you cant suspend someone on a suspicion, think of all the PED violations we would have in the NFL if people got suspended just because you suspect they were using drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 His name is Ernie Adams. He's a football statistical savant that's been by Belichicks side since they met at Navy I believe. He's the dude that comes up with all this obscure minutia that seems to give New England the edge in bad weather games. Anyone who believes that Bill Belichick doesn't KNOW that a soft ball is easier to hand in wet & cold games at Gillette is kidding themselves. Belichick is one of the technical coaches in the league. He doesn't miss a trick. This was a slap on the wrist by not also suspending Belichick. Brady will arbitrate down to 2 games. Pats won the freaking Super Bowl & it cost a million dollars (totally worth it). Belichick will get back that 4th rounder trading back once. Really, the only stinging penalty was a 1st round pick. Pats got off easy compared to the Saints who lost their freaking head coach for an entire year! That was based on the fact that "ignorance isn't an excuse". Shouldn't that apply to the cheating Pats coach with having to be disciplined for the 2nd time in 10 years. Total BS. Yes, Adams. I agree they got off easy. Brady should've received 8 games minimum! If they go down to two its a major joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Absolutely. He's the head coach, responsible for over-seeing all on-field operations. There is no way he did not know what was going on, and would have definitely allowed for it to continue had they not been caught. Brady is just the fall guy in the organization. Belichick has been orchestrating stuff like this for years and yet gets off so easy. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Absolutely. Now the 2nd time in 9 years his team has surrendered a 1st rounder. Along with Kraft, he is the leader of a cheating culture. Im shocked he got away with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 He oversaw the whole operation I don't doubt it for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The BS inelijible receiver thing he pulled is way worse. I go to multiple coaching clinics in Feb and March, where there are a lot of NFL assistanants and D1 coaches. And this has tarnished BB reputation way worse than deflating footballs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Of course he should have due to stupid precedent set by the league. Both Payton and the Atlanta president or VP or whatever were penalized not for knowing but should have known. The fact that the Siciliano tweet says the Pats were warned years earlier is a clear that Belichick, a guy who controls eery aspect of the team should have faced some discipline, even if it was cursory in nature. Even a fine or a one game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Well that's like asking anyone here; Is water wet? But yes he is a controlling POS and had to not only know, but engineered the way to do it to allow for some plausible deniability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Sounds like your trying to make up a conspiracy theory, With the over 200 pages written on deflategate there was no evidence pointing at even the idea that BB knew anything about what was going on. Again I hate the entire organization but I also cant justify punishing someone over something they more probably than not did not do. As far as suppressed evidence we already know Tom refused to share his phone or any of the texts that were on it so yes I am sure there was information that was missed in the report but without that information you can only suspect it exists but you cant suspend someone on a suspicion, think of all the PED violations we would have in the NFL if people got suspended just because you suspect they were using drugs. A kid selling a nickelbag of chocolate on a corner gets a more thorough investigation. This whole thing is a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 His name is Ernie Adams. He's a football statistical savant that's been by Belichicks side since they met at Navy I believe. He's the dude that comes up with all this obscure minutia that seems to give New England the edge in bad weather games. Anyone who believes that Bill Belichick doesn't KNOW that a soft ball is easier to hand in wet & cold games at Gillette is kidding themselves. Belichick is one of the technical coaches in the league. He doesn't miss a trick. This was a slap on the wrist by not also suspending Belichick. Brady will arbitrate down to 2 games. Pats won the freaking Super Bowl & it cost a million dollars (totally worth it). Belichick will get back that 4th rounder trading back once. Really, the only stinging penalty was a 1st round pick. Pats got off easy compared to the Saints who lost their freaking head coach for an entire year! That was based on the fact that "ignorance isn't an excuse". Shouldn't that apply to the cheating Pats coach with having to be disciplined for the 2nd time in 10 years. Total BS. POTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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