Patriot Killa Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Antonio Allen - #1 By now, most Jets fans know full well who Antonio Allen is. But for years, what no one could figure out is exactly what role the Jets envisioned him to fill. He started off his career like most rookie seventh-round draft choices, earning his paychecks by performing special teams duties. He stepped into a bigger role in his second season, starting nine games and playing a large majority of the snaps in the first seven games of the season (330 out of 509 snaps for 64.8 percent, according to Pro Football Focus). His career trajectory was knocked off course when the Jets picked up Ed Reed off the streets in the middle of the 2013 season. From that point on, Allen played a menial role (220 out of 621 snaps for 35.4 percent). It appeared he would get a shot to lock down a starting spot at safety the next season, but he was instead moved to cornerback to help address a shortage at the position. The position switch failed, but now, Allen has a chance to set himself apart in a competition among four safeties for backup spots. Durell Eskridge, Jaiquawn Jarrett and Rontez Miles are all vying for the same duties as Allen, but thanks to his experience in New York, Allen could have the upper hand. The rest of the list can be viewed here: http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2515769-ranking-new-york-jets-top-5-sleepers-to-watch-in-camp/page/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Should just convert him to CB to teach the GM a lesson about not signing DRC for $7 mil per. I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Should just convert him to CB to teach the GM a lesson about not signing DRC for $7 mil per. I mean. That,and signing Ed Reed mid season stunted his growth. And that's why Rex sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Funny. He is high on my list of potential surprise cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Funny. He is high on my list of potential surprise cuts. Does not appear there is anywhere for him to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Funny. He is high on my list of potential surprise cuts. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I thought Allen was actually doing a pretty decent job at safety until Rex got Reedified. Would have been nice to see how he developed given more time at the position he's supposed to be playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I am a big fan of Antonio Allen. I would seriously hate to see him cut. I hope Bowles has an essential role for him, particularly playing LB in dime situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 I am a big fan of Antonio Allen. I would seriously hate to see him cut. I hope Bowles has an essential role for him, particularly playing LB in dime situations. This right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Does not appear there is anywhere for him to play. Bowles plays a lot of "big nickel" D with safety / LB hybrids coming in - perfect role for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hmm, couldnt crack the lineup as a safety and as an emergency cb he played like a safety. If he makes the roster i think hes a backup. At best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am a big fan of Antonio Allen. I would seriously hate to see him cut. I hope Bowles has an essential role for him, particularly playing LB in dime situations. Bowles plays a lot of "big nickel" D with safety / LB hybrids coming in - perfect role for Allen. This is what I thought when Bowles was coming in, I just did not get the vibe that they liked him too much. We won't know until camp, it's just a feeling. The fact that they brought in a couple of FS types in Gilchrist and Eskridge may not bode well. Basically it would leave Pryor, Allen, Jarrett and Miles looking at 2 or so slots. They also might keep one less CB since Gilchrist has NFL experience at CB. These guys may be competing with Walls and Williams as much as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That,and signing Ed Reed mid season stunted his growth. He's a football player, not a flower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 This is what I thought when Bowles was coming in, I just did not get the vibe that they liked him too much. We won't know until camp, it's just a feeling. The fact that they brought in a couple of FS types in Gilchrist and Eskridge may not bode well. Basically it would leave Pryor, Allen, Jarrett and Miles looking at 2 or so slots. They also might keep one less CB since Gilchrist has NFL experience at CB. These guys may be competing with Walls and Williams as much as each other. Williams played amazing last year. I cannot envision him being cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I thought Allen was actually doing a pretty decent job at safety until Rex got Reedified. Would have been nice to see how he developed given more time at the position he's supposed to be playing. I agree. Never did understand why Rex went with Reed. Last year was a lost season. Idzik screwed up the CB situation so bad Allen was the best cover corner on the team at the time. Then appeared to lose his confidence. Hope he gets a chance to compete this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If I had to come up with my 53 man roster.. This is off the top of my head so excuse me if I'm missing a player. QB Geno Smith Fitz RB Ivory Powell Ridley Stacy WR Marshall Decker Kerley Smith Owusu Evans Enunwa TE Amaro Cumberland Maneri OL Brick Carpenter Mangold Aboushi Giacomini Dozier Winters Ijalana Freeman or Colon. DL Sheldon (S) Wilk Harrison Williams Barnes Douzable Bowen (cut when Rich is activated) LB Coples Harris Davis IK Pace Mauldin Taiwan Jones Lattimore Erin Henderson CB Revis Cro Skrine McDougle Milliner Williams Walls S Pryor (sucks, I actually messages him on Instagram and told him he needs to step up and responds by saying "suck my di**" Gilchrist J. Jarret Antonio Allen ST Folk Quigley Purdum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I hope Bowles has an essential role for him, particularly playing LB in dime situations. Look! Someone who actually knows about football. You don't have to start to make the team. #39 SHOULD make it on ST and sub-packages as a Dime LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Williams played amazing last year. I cannot envision him being cut. Eh. He played excellent for what he was. OTOH, they have 3 lock vets, plus Milliner and McDougle coming off injury. They also have Walls who, understandably, seemed to have more responsibility - generally covered the better receiver, got more run, etc. Williams will be somewhere, but unlike 2014 when we started crap all year, we are going to cut an NFL player this year. I think a bunch will depend on how they view the safety position. They may see Gilchrist as a tweener CB/S and then they'd have 4 guys they are not cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 He's a football player, not a flower. So? Instead of being sarcastic why don't you use an open mind? Obviously starting a 35 year old who runs a 5.3 now takes away from Allen and his reps. Which takes away from his game time experience which alters his quality of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I thought Allen was actually doing a pretty decent job at safety until Rex got Reedified. Would have been nice to see how he developed given more time at the position he's supposed to be playing. The same Reed everyone said developed Milliner when he can on board? Win one, lose one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The same Reed everyone said developed Milliner when he can on board? Win one, lose one? Well technically we lost both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I am a big fan of Antonio Allen. I would seriously hate to see him cut. I hope Bowles has an essential role for him, particularly playing LB in dime situations. If nothing more than to mug Gronkowski twice a year, he'd be worth keeping..,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman1 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 If nothing more than to mug Gronkowski twice a year, he'd be worth keeping..,. My thought exactly! He locked Gronk down when he was put on him one on one. Best coverage Ive seen anyone give against Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 My thought exactly! He locked Gronk down when he was put on him one on one. Best coverage Ive seen anyone give against Gronk. He did a decent job, but locked down? We all remember the pick 6. He seemed to do a nice job in that game. Gronkowski had 114 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The same Reed everyone said developed Milliner when he can on board? Win one, lose one? Milliner did improve dramatically when Reed was on the roster, he would probably make a pretty decent coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He did a decent job, but locked down? We all remember the pick 6. He seemed to do a nice job in that game. Gronkowski had 114 yards. I think Allen gets a lot of love for that performance not just because the pick six, but I think Gronk had double-digit targets...fourteen or something like that. If somebody had said he'd be targeted fourteen times a lot of folks would have predicted 10-11 catches for 170. Well, I would have anyway. Allen did as much as you could've asked for in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think Allen gets a lot of love for that performance not just because the pick six, but I think Gronk had double-digit targets...fourteen or something like that. If somebody had said he'd be targeted fourteen times a lot of folks would have predicted 10-11 catches for 170. Well, I would have anyway. Allen did as much as you could've asked for in that spot. Maybe. I still had the box up - it was 17 targets. Still not sure 8 for 114 (half of Brady's output) constitutes locked down. Allen did fine, but it was also Gronkowski's first game back. He was coming off multiple surgeries and was on the preseason PUP list. That was week 7 on October 20 and he had last played when he left the playoff game against the Texans with the arm injury. He missed the Conference Championship against the Ravens. During the offseason he ended up having all the surgeries on his arm (forearm surgery which got infected requiring a couple of more) and back surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Maybe. I still had the box up - it was 17 targets. Still not sure 8 for 114 (half of Brady's output) constitutes locked down. Allen did fine, but it was also Gronkowski's first game back. He was coming off multiple surgeries and was on the preseason PUP list. That was week 7 on October 20 and he had last played when he left the playoff game against the Texans with the arm injury. He missed the Conference Championship against the Ravens. During the offseason he ended up having all the surgeries on his arm (forearm surgery which got infected requiring a couple of more and back surgery) Yup...have to figure their timing may have been a bit off and Allen was far from "locking him down" but he performed admirably. I really do like Allen though...brings a lot to the table so I hope Bowles finds a role for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yup...have to figure their timing may have been a bit off and Allen was far from "locking him down" but he performed admirably. I really do like Allen though...brings a lot to the table so I hope Bowles finds a role for him. I like Allen too, but I'm not sure what he actually brings. He is big and seems stout against the run and decent in man coverage, but he seems pretty bad in space. He plays sort of like a big slow CB. We expected him to take time to develop and last year probably stunted that. I'm not sure what he provides on specials. You'd think he'd shine there, but I don't remember making many (any?) plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I like Allen too, but I'm not sure what he actually brings. He is big and seems stout against the run and decent in man coverage, but he seems pretty bad in space. He plays sort of like a big slow CB. We expected him to take time to develop and last year probably stunted that. I'm not sure what he provides on specials. You'd think he'd shine there, but I don't remember making many (any?) plays. I don't see him being great at any one thing, but he can be solid against the run and in man so if Bowles is as good as advertised I'd be surprised if he doesn't find a role for him. I don't think he'll ever be superstar, but he can do a couple of things well for a small price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't see him being great at any one thing, but he can be solid against the run and in man so if Bowles is as good as advertised I'd be surprised if he doesn't find a role for him. I don't think he'll ever be superstar, but he can do a couple of things well for a small price. Yeah. Worth his salary somewhere to be sure. The only reason I wonder about him sticking is how stacked we are at DB. We have a bunch of CBs, maybe 7, plus a few safeties that should stick. I was surprised they tendered Jarrett. I'm on the Rontez Miles bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yeah. Worth his salary somewhere to be sure. The only reason I wonder about him sticking is how stacked we are at DB. We have a bunch of CBs, maybe 7, plus a few safeties that should stick. I was surprised they tendered Jarrett. I'm on the Rontez Miles bandwagon. Curious about Miles...real shame what happened to him at the end of last season when it looked like he was gonna' get a few reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Funny. He is high on my list of potential surprise cuts. In all honesty it could be either. Competition will be much stiffer for sure and he does have a real shot at getting cut if he does not jump up and grab the attention of the coaches right out of the gate. On the other hand he has flashed enough in the time that he has been here to think that he might just thrive in a more settled backfield. I am guardedly optimistic about his place in a secondary which is hugely better than last year regardless of what Allen does. I worry more about Pryor needing to step up TBH. Rex's last gift to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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