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I am a transplanted New Yorker and am astounded by the homerism among Pats fans and on Boston sports radio relating to the Brady stuff. Otherwise intelligent commentators are routinely explaining away

Great post. He is as guilty as sin.   But it is the NE arrogant and above the law attitude that has caused this to escalate.   If Kraft had acted like Athur Blank and just immediately came out and

It isn't practical to spend money trying to identify the senders and recipients for 10,000 texts only to ask them to please turn over the texts. There is nothing the NFL can do when those people decli

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Anyone seeing some of these emails they're finding? 

 

If there was any question that Brady wasnt an epic arrogant a$$hole, there isnt anymore.  He treats everyone like turd.  He's a true piece of sh*t. 

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By some Pat fans? They don't understand it. So, I guess you accept their explanation that the equipment guy referring to himself as the deflator was a reference to weight loss?

I believe he lied, I believe he had balls slightly underinflated but the Wells report did little to prove any of it.

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I believe he lied, I believe he had balls slightly underinflated but the Wells report did little to prove any of it.

 

So you don't believe the claims in the Wells report that he refused to provide transcripts of the relevant texts? This is obstruction.

 

As for proving the balls were deflated by other-than natural means, that was proven effectively by the work done by Exponent, which was included in the Wells report.

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So you don't believe the claims in the Wells report that he refused to provide transcripts of the relevant texts? This is obstruction.

 

As for proving the balls were deflated by other-than natural means, that was proven effectively by the work done by Exponent, which was included in the Wells report.

how was that proven when they didn't test the balls from any other games?

 

read the testimony that was released yesterday.  there's a ton of interesting info in there.

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how was that proven when they didn't test the balls from any other games?

 

read the testimony that was released yesterday.  there's a ton of interesting info in there.

 

It was proven both by analyzing the measurements made by the officials at halftime, as well as extensive experiments designed to simulate game conditions. The simulations well proved that the measurements made by the officials fell outside the realm that results obtained for the Pat balls occurred due to natural processes, at least to the degree required by NFL rules. That is, it was "more likely than not." that non-natural causes produced the pressures seen in the Pat balls. But the readings for the Colt balls did fall within the realm of being physically possible.

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Somebody should put together a top 10 list of their most ridicilous arguments since the investigation started

 

Starting with Brady's "This ain't ISIS, nobody is dying", to their explanation of the term "The Deflator", which meant this Jastremski guy or whoever trying to lose weight.

 

Don't know if a top 10 is enough there. Maybe could expand it to a top 50.

 

And then his whore of a wife goes hiding out in a burka to conceal her boob job. Real classy. These people need to be skewered on the real facts here. Delusion is Strong in Boston. 

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Lol!!!!! Some of these jet fans. I tell ya..ha ha

You're having a real hard time with all of the negative vibe swirling around your cheating team.

Isn't there a call in, suicide call line for delusional pats fans? This constant defense is not good for you

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You're having a real hard time with all of the negative vibe swirling around your cheating team.

Oh yeah, bigtime. They all are. It's hilarious to see. They look so ridiculous you almost feel embarassed for them. 

They are like a 100 mile radius of completely brainwashed mindless cult. 

They are the westboro baptist church of football if WBC was just a tad bit more delusional. 

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Am I the only one relishing the irony that while part of Brady's argument is that the NFL wanting to see his text messages is a violation of his privacy only to have the judge order all this info released including Brady's personal emails?

 

http://deadspin.com/highlights-of-tom-bradys-personal-emails-revealed-in-n-1722160002

 

Doesn't the fact that he willingly handed over all these emails kind of kill his violation of privacy argument?

 

More importantly, is that how adults really write emails?

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Oh yeah, bigtime. They all are. It's hilarious to see. They look so ridiculous you almost feel embarassed for them. 

They are like a 100 mile radius of completely brainwashed mindless cult. 

They are the westboro baptist church of football if WBC was just a tad bit more delusional. 

 

Haven't seen you for awhile.

Welcome back!

Are you out on parole?

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Oh yeah, bigtime. They all are. It's hilarious to see. They look so ridiculous you almost feel embarassed for them.

They are like a 100 mile radius of completely brainwashed mindless cult.

They are the westboro baptist church of football if WBC was just a tad bit more delusional.

It is funny to listen to their spin. A new one every day. None that includes the fact that the Pats cheated. That Tom cheated. That another SB is tainted. This time NFL fans think more than before. But hey, it's only short term. Fans are stupid. They think Brady cheated today. But with time, no one will think he's a cheater. Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods too. It's great to read.
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More importantly, is that how adults really write emails?

 

Good friken god..  Well now we know the identity of his gay lover, Alex. WTF. That's all I can say. 

The way he talks about Alex and his body is downright hilarious. Dude should just head the march for LGBT justice already and his PR will make a major upswing. He will be the American Hero he always dreamed. 

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Haven't seen you for awhile.

Welcome back!

Are you out on parole?

 

Good behavior! ;)

It is funny to listen to their spin. A new one every day. None that includes the fact that the Pats cheated. That Tom cheated. That another SB is tainted. This time NFL fans think more than before. But hey, it's only short term. Fans are stupid. They think Brady cheated today. But with time, no one will think he's a cheater. Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods too. It's great to read.

And in the same breath they try to talk shet about the Yankees because A-Rod, who we all know took roids... and then they are so concerned with "integrity" 

...while they try to pretend Big Poopy and the rest of those clowns were not on roids too... ya know, after getting busted for it. LOL. 

 

Complete delusion. For such supposedly smart people, they sure do seem REALLY DAMN DUMB!!

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Good behavior! ;)

And in the same breath they try to talk shet about the Yankees because A-Rod, who we all know took roids... and then they are so concerned with "integrity" 

...while they try to pretend Big Poopy and the rest of those clowns were not on roids too... ya know, after getting busted for it. LOL. 

 

Complete delusion. For such supposedly smart people, they sure do seem REALLY DAMN DUMB!!

They go after any NY player. Kill A-Rod but skip over Poppy. How come the midget Pedroia stopped hitting HRs when they cracked down on 'roids? They called A-Rod a cheater for trying to hit the ball out of a glove. Kraft screamed loudly years ago that the Jets think they're above the rules, then tampered with Jet employee BB. They're a low life group.

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They go after any NY player. Kill A-Rod but skip over Poppy. How come the midget Pedroia stopped hitting HRs when they cracked down on 'roids? They called A-Rod a cheater for trying to hit the ball out of a glove. Kraft screamed loudly years ago that the Jets think they're above the rules, then tampered with Jet employee BB. They're a low life group.

Nailed it. 

 

Their fans think nobody notices this crap. They keep digging themself deeper in a hole with more intensity the worse it gets. It's pretty great to watch. 

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For those who don't know much about the science in the Wells report, and who may have seen objections to it published in various places, there was a very good nontechnical summary of it in the Goodell appeal hearing, Here is an outtake from the appeal decision:

 

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For those who don't know much about the science in the Wells report, and who may have seen objections to it published in various places, the was a very good nontechnical summary of it in the Goodell appeal hearing, Here is an outtake from the appeal decision:

 

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I don't know. Seems to me we have a plethora of hot air experts here. :)

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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/roger-goodell-s-manipulation-of-tom-brady-s-testimony-leaves-nfl-on-slippery-slope-214409591-nfl.html

 

 

By late Monday morning the NFL had wrongly told the Patriots that their footballs were deflated as low as 10.1 psi – which put the organization on its heels because it was such a significant reduction.

Hearing such data from the league office would certainly cause Brady and Jastremski to revisit the situation. Let's say Jastremski said early Monday morning he didn't do it, doubted anyone did and couldn't even believe this occurred – something both Brady and Jastremski said occurred.

Then the NFL put out the false 10.1 psi number. Of course Brady would call back and say, "Well, this is what the NFL found, something must have happened. What's the story?"

Then later, ESPN, citing league sources, reported that 11 of the 12 Patriots footballs were two pounds or more below the league standard. It was also completely wrong but no one in New England knew that at the time so this looked terrible

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CBS just released transcripts from the appeal and Brady denies even knowing who Jim McNally is. A 10+ year locker room attendant. Is he a friggen idiot?

He's getting terrible advice from his lawyers. If the judge is halfway not retarded Brady wrecked his credibility.

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The lowest measured pressure for the Pat balls was actually 10.5 psi. Not exactly egregiously wrong when compared with 10.1 psi, and the latter value could possibly even be a typo. 

that was the incorrect info that was reported early on.

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that was the incorrect info that was reported early on.

 

Not sure what info you are referencing. The only place I saw the 10.1 psi value is from your quote earlier in this thread. The 10.5 psi value is listed both in the Wells report and the Exponent report and is not in question, That was in fact the lowest Pat measurement as made by the officials.

 

My point is that 10.5 psi, which is a full 2 psi below the minimum pressure permitted by the rules, is not that much different from the erroneous 10.1 psi value. Either value looks pretty much equally bad for the Pats,

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Not sure what info you are referencing. The only place I saw the 10.1 psi value is from your quote earlier in this thread. The 10.5 psi value is listed both in the Wells report and the Exponent report and is not in question, That was in fact the lowest Pat measurement as made by the officials.

 

My point is that 10.5 psi, which is a full 2 psi below the minimum pressure permitted by the rules, is not that much different from the erroneous 10.1 psi value. Either value looks pretty much equally bad for the Pats,

those #s were incorrect in initial reports.

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read the testimony that just came out.

 

All 457 pages of it? Perhaps you can help me out. Did someone from the Wells team say the numbers in the published Wells report were wrong? Not the preliminary league remarks. I am referring to testimony at the appeal hearing by a tech expert from the Wells team or his representative.

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