BlakeSpenceBlockedPunt Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Both drafted in the same year. Another absolute bust in terms of upgrading a position group. We've got to stop pretending that Coples can play. I'd cut him and be done. Davis simply hasn't produced, yet gets talked about like he's actually something. Bowles won't stand for this stuff. He will replace both of them and I expect it to be done very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We are very weak at LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I dvrd the game and rewatched a lot of the plays. And I was surprised at how Davis plays. Always out of position, over pursuing plays, late shedding blocks. Now I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he's nowhere near the star they make him out to be. If you just regularly watch the plays, it seems like he's always around the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We really need Mauldin to step up big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Really surprised Coples is still at LBer. Said himself the other day that he prefers D-line and that's where he has been at his best as a pro. I'd rather he rotate in on the D-line and be somewhat effective as opposed to being a liability at times at LBer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 who would you start in their stead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Coples has played out of position his whole career and has played pretty well. Maybe not 1st round well but good enough. Davis is just not very good. Great leadership, high motor but not a great player. We are pretty sucky at LB overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Both drafted in the same year. Another absolute bust in terms of upgrading a position group. We've got to stop pretending that Coples can play. I'd cut him and be done. Davis simply hasn't produced, yet gets talked about like he's actually something. Bowles won't stand for this stuff. He will replace both of them and I expect it to be done very soon. We've got to stop pretending that Coples is a Linebacker. Yeah, they were both drafted in the same year, the difference is that at the podium when Coples was called he was mentioned as a DE not a LB'er. Davis played LB'er and was drafted as one. Coples is a lineman that played DE and DT. When he dominated at the Senior Bowl it was as a D-lineman. When Jets coaches and its fans understand that Coples would be best suited being put back on the defensive line then will they begin to see what this guy could be worth on a consistent basis. Until then, we'll continue to be pissed at the lack of production coming from the LB'er spot ignoring the fact that we have linemen playing the position because of their "Size/speed" ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wouldn't mind seeing Mo, Snacks and Q week one based on the latest injuries and suspensions. That strikes me as a damned good DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeSpenceBlockedPunt Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's always something when it comes to Q. Face it - even when he plays on the D Line he's not very good. I don't care where you were drafted. He's taking up a spot. I have nothing against him. I'd like to see him (and us) succeed. I'm simply pointing out that he and Davis are not very good players. In fact, they are liabilities and should be on the field a lot less than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I guess I'm in the minority of people who like Demario. He had a bad game yesterday for sure, but he's a solid player. He he has gotten better each and every year.had 116 tackles last year including 3.5 sacks. Solid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That time we traded up from the slot that landed Bobby Wagner so we could draft Stephen Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I agree with the OP about Davis, I think he's a little over rated by some of us…he's mediocre at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I agree with the OP about Davis, I think he's a little over rated by some of us…he's mediocre at best. He was a 3rd round pick he has lived up to where he was drafted. He really isn't a terrible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 He was a 3rd round pick he has lived up to where he was drafted. He really isn't a terrible player. he's not terrible, he's decent, I thought he'd be better honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Every position on the roster needs to be filled by HOF caliber talent... if not, then cut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Every position on the roster needs to be filled by HOF caliber talent... if not, then cut them. With All Pro's as back ups.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Coples is actually a tweener. He's Julius peppers size but slower and less athletic. He can't bend the edge as a DE in a 4-3 and he's not big enough to be a 5 tech in the 3-4. And he's not good enough in space for a 3-4 OLB. I actually do agree and think DL is his best spot to contribute but I don't think he'd be "great" anywhere. And we have more talented DL than him but zero OLB's so it all makes sense how it's worked out this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That time we traded up from the slot that landed Bobby Wagner so we could draft Stephen Hill. Alshon gained 5 lbs so we passed on him too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 LOL, Davis misses a tackle, Bowels makes a comment about it, now he's message board fodder for fans and he sucks... No, David is a good LB, he had a poor game based on a couple of plays, he will show up on Sundays... Some of your throwing under the bus is over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Every position on the roster needs to be filled by HOF caliber talent... if not, then cut them. LOL, you said it better than I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I guess I'm in the minority of people who like Demario. He had a bad game yesterday for sure, but he's a solid player. He he has gotten better each and every year.had 116 tackles last year including 3.5 sacks. Solid player. I like him too. One of our few sideline to sideline players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 We've got to stop pretending that Coples is a Linebacker. Yeah, they were both drafted in the same year, the difference is that at the podium when Coples was called he was mentioned as a DE not a LB'er. Davis played LB'er and was drafted as one. Coples is a lineman that played DE and DT. When he dominated at the Senior Bowl it was as a D-lineman. When Jets coaches and its fans understand that Coples would be best suited being put back on the defensive line then will they begin to see what this guy could be worth on a consistent basis. Until then, we'll continue to be pissed at the lack of production coming from the LB'er spot ignoring the fact that we have linemen playing the position because of their "Size/speed" ratio. He was actually developing fairly well as a fist in the ground guy until Rex decided he was an OLB. I am as frustrated as anyone about the "wasted" pick, but once they started bouncing him around like a ping pong ball there was nowhere to go but downhill. You cannot make chicken liver out of chicken sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Coples reminds me of Brian Thomas. Just has to be better in coverage. Looks like he is learning a few new things too. DD has had a tough summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Our LBs are a detriment in coverage. Bowles knows this & you'll see some creative use of our safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Alshon gained 5 lbs so we passed on him too This is revisionist history. Alshon had bitch t!ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Coples is actually a tweener. He's Julius peppers size but slower and less athletic. He can't bend the edge as a DE in a 4-3 and he's not big enough to be a 5 tech in the 3-4. And he's not good enough in space for a 3-4 OLB. I actually do agree and think DL is his best spot to contribute but I don't think he'd be "great" anywhere. And we have more talented DL than him but zero OLB's so it all makes sense how it's worked out this way. But isn't he "on the verge of a breakout season"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The harder the position for fans to evaluate the more fans moan and groan about what they think they see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I love that Coples is out of position because... Rex. This coach could have switched him back. Plenty of opportunity. Coples actually has looked fine to me. They had him with his hand in the dirt plenty anyway. Davis has been awful this preseason. He has been missing tackles and over-pursuing. I thought he was looking pretty good last year, so maybe it is just taking him time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The biggest problem with Coples is that he isn't Bruce Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeSpenceBlockedPunt Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 The biggest problem with Coples is that he makes one play then disappears for three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The biggest problem with Coples is that he makes one play then disappears for three weeks. Yeah, but he's sneaky fast!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Rexclamation project. #portmanteau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The biggest problem with Coples is that he isn't Bruce Irvin. The biggest problem with Coples is that he isn't good at anything but being big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I disagree, whole Davis may be a liability in coverage, he's still a very effective linebacker with more speed than Harris. I like Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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