RutgersJetFan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So 100% the judge has him on his fantasy team right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So 100% the judge has him on his fantasy team right? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 it's doesn't. The NFL ask for this judge, took it to court and lost. Point blank....some of these posters gonna have to learn to get over it. Get over it. Like the Pats fans did for the past 6 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Joseph Cole was just on WFAN and gave several fantastic points 1. The majority of the owners are probably not upset at the finding today. The football people in the organizations, who were tired of NE, are. The owners are more concerned about the NFL as an entertainment business. How much money comes in is all that matters "Money Trumps All" 2. I am 100% that if the punishment was 1 game, then we wouldn't be here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) This whole day, the ruling, the Pats fans in glee never mind the ruling changes nothing about Brady actually cheating is one big huge pile of bullsh*t!!! Sick and ******* tired of the Patriot cheating organization and getting away with it! Edited September 3, 2015 by JetsRay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Every team's fan base is going to be rooting against them-that will be pleasant to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'm glad it's over, time to just beat them at full strength, plus hey Brady Will be playing with the correctly inflated balls from now onwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 That is the interesting part. Even if the NFL doesn't appeal....the Pats admitted guilt and will lose the picks. Then Brady got the good news lol. I read that the appeal is already in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Get over it. Like the Pats fans did for the past 6 months? Well....you honestly think something drastic is gonna happen to fit your satisfaction? It won't, but if you want to continue while this franchise continues to one up you, go right ahead. More entertainment for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I'm glad it's over, time to just beat them at full strength, plus hey Brady Will be playing with the correctly inflated balls from now onwards. What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. Edited September 3, 2015 by CaliforniaJet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Isn't this a good thing? Maybe Goodell will have it out for the Pats this year for essentially embarrassing him and his authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Well....you honestly think something drastic is gonna happen to fit your satisfaction? It won't, but if you want to continue while this franchise continues to one up you, go right ahead. More entertainment for me. It will be nice to see Patriots Rb's actually fumble this year and for Brady to have to throw properly inflated footballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It will be nice to see Patriots Rb's actually fumble this year and for Brady to have to throw properly inflated footballs. You seen Brady throw a properly inflated football. The 2nd half of the AFC championship and the superbowl. I'm sure there's plenty other games...but we know guys don't wanna believe that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. Agree the number of changes the NHL has had to make strictly due to that one team is rather large. Got rid of the tuck rule had to refine and change the filming rules The brady no low tackle rule The care of in game footballs The forced change to olineman eligible rules after their exploit last year. The impending changes to how punsihments are meted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. Listen I hear you, but even the Pats* arnt dumb enough to keep cheating. There are plenty of teams, owners, and NFL with an Axe to grind. I don't think they will be afforded the Royal treatment they once did. Toms 38 can't play forever, it time for some one to stand against them. Go Jets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) You seen Brady throw a properly inflated football. The 2nd half of the AFC championship and the superbowl. I'm sure there's plenty other games...but we know guys don't wanna believe that. Ray Lucas said him and Vinny used to prep their game balls in the parking lot before the game.. I think the whole thing is stupid plus I think players should allowed to smoke pot when they want .. I also don't think what they do in their personal lives should be any business of the League.. Edited September 3, 2015 by Savage69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It's not over... The NFL is appealing the ruling. Honestly I think it's absolutely ridiculous. He gets off because he didn't know he'd be penalized... I mean are you kidding me? Brady will play week 1, but if the NFL wins the appeal he could miss games later in the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 you can't go back in time and have pash not edit the wells report, suspend aj feely and bargain for a penalty for deflating balls and send brady the letter Right. But you still can claim the suspension was based more on the obstruction than the deflating, obviating the lack of a letter. Hope the league appeals soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Right. But you still can claim the suspension was based more on the obstruction than the deflating, obviating the lack of a letter. Hope the league appeals soon. they already have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I know Goodell tried to fold everything into an all encompassing conduct detrimental charge but it was after the fact when he realized him and his advisors botched this entire case But fortunately, obstruction was mentioned in the original punishment. And destruction of evidence became part of the case once the appeal to the league was filed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Ray Lucas said him and Vinny used to prep their game balls in the parking lot before the game.. I think the whole thing is stupid plus I think players should allowed to smoke pot when they want .. I also don't think what they do in their personal lives should be any business of the League.. I agree with your post up to smacking girlfriends, and committing any crimes though. PED use as well, but everything else I'm with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I agree with your post up to smacking girlfriends, and committing any crimes though. PED use as well, but everything else I'm with you. I wasn't condoning any of that but to me that should be up to the police not the NFL.. Most of the players in the league are not altar boys was my point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I hate Tom Brady. If he was a Jet, he'd be my 2nd favorite player of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not just Brady, the NFLPA wins as well. This judge just created a precedent that any player can choose to appeal based on this decision The NFL has no choice now but to appeal. the good news is they can file for a stay of the judge's decision. Like I said, it's going to be an interesting fall and winter... What could a stay possibly do in this case? Allow the suspension to actually happen? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What could a stay possibly do in this case? Allow the suspension to actually happen? Makes no sense. New England is a Sanctuary area for Tommy where that mean Goodell can't hurt him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I read that the appeal is already in place Sounds like the league lawyers spent a lot of time carefully crafting another ironclad case...NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I wasn't condoning any of that but to me that should be up to the police not the NFL.. Most of the players in the league are not altar boys was my point.. i understand what you are saying, but you aren't gonna be head of a multi billion dollar, even just million dollar business and invest in someone with the understanding whatever they do in their private life you will just leave it up to the authorities. That's not smart business and ruin your business rep. Edited September 3, 2015 by ghost_in_pads02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 i understand what you are saying, but you aren't gonna be head of a multi billion dollar, even just million dollar business and invest in someone with the understanding whatever they do in their private life you will just leave it up to the authorities. That's not smart business and ruin your business rep. So your saying I still could be the POTUS though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 As MM mentioned, there is no prohibition against being "generally aware." That's what Brady was suspended on. He wasn't suspended for tampering because even Wells didn't say Brady did it. As to your second part, classic apples and oranges and depends on the fact. Most jobs don't have a CBA. Mine doesn't. If I pissed on someone's sandwich, I could be fired. But if there was a CBA and it wasn't prohibited such as saying that an employee may not damage another employee's property, then yeah, I could get off for doing that. Again, this decision only exists in the world where there is a CBA in place. Being generally aware makes you an accomplice. Fully involved even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 it should be noted at no time did judge berman dismiss the findings that the balls were deflated by the deflator after leaving the officials room early and ducking into a locked bathroom all he is basicaslly saying is that the precedent is that is a team issue, not a player issue and they never mailed brady a letter saying it was considered equal to PED's and it carried a 4 game suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Being generally aware makes you an accomplice. Fully involved even But there's no rule against that in the CBA. THAT is the problem. The NFL is run by a bunch of dumbasses. THAT is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Key Points: The court found that Brady had no notice that he could receive a four-game suspension for general awareness of ball deflation by others Brady also had no notice that his discipline would be the equivalent of the discipline imposed upon a player who used PEDs What this tells me is that if they had given him a lesser punishment, we wouldn't be here "Do whatever you want to do if you don't know what the consequences are!" Great message to put out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) "Do whatever you want to do if you don't know what the consequences are!" Great message to put out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RvNS7JfcMM Edited September 3, 2015 by RutgersJetFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ******* hell. How come youtube vids don't embed anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I find myself right now hoping a psychopath captures, tortures, and kills Brady in as gruesome way as possible ... Does that make me a bad person? I don't think it makes you a bad person, I find myself having that feeling towards 2-3 different people every day, sometimes twice as many during weekends. Sometimes I have thoughts of being that psychopath myself. So yeah, you're ok in my book for what it's worth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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