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I honestly dont even know why I watch the NFL.  It's become the biggest joke in all of sports. Saturdays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g

no he hasn't.  was OJ vindicated when he was found not guilty? it's a stench that will never leave him.  he's a cheater and everyone knows it.

Shocker. Every suspended player should sue everytime.  Le'Veon Bell and Martavius Bryant should immediately file for injunctions to play week 1.

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Joseph Cole was just on WFAN and gave several fantastic points

1. The majority of the owners are probably not upset at the finding today. The football people in the organizations, who were tired of NE, are. The owners are more concerned about the NFL as an entertainment business. How much money comes in is all that matters "Money Trumps All"

2. I am 100% that if the punishment was 1 game, then we wouldn't be here today.

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This whole day, the ruling, the Pats fans in glee never mind the ruling changes nothing about Brady actually cheating is one big huge pile of bullsh*t!!!

Sick and ******* tired of the Patriot cheating organization and getting away with it!

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Get over it. Like the Pats fans did for the past 6 months? 

Well....you honestly think something drastic is gonna happen to fit your satisfaction

 

It won't, but if you want to continue while this franchise continues to one up you, go right ahead. More entertainment for me.

 

 

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I'm glad it's over, time to just beat them at full strength, plus hey Brady Will be playing with the correctly inflated balls from now onwards.

What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. 

 

Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. 

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Well....you honestly think something drastic is gonna happen to fit your satisfaction

 

It won't, but if you want to continue while this franchise continues to one up you, go right ahead. More entertainment for me.

 

 

It will be nice to see Patriots Rb's actually fumble this year and for Brady to have to throw properly inflated footballs.

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It will be nice to see Patriots Rb's actually fumble this year and for Brady to have to throw properly inflated footballs.

You seen Brady throw a properly inflated football. The 2nd half of the AFC championship and the superbowl. 

 

I'm sure there's plenty other games...but we know guys don't wanna believe that. 

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What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. 

 

Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. 

Agree the number of changes the NHL has had to make strictly due to that one team is rather large.

 

Got rid of the tuck rule

had to refine and change the filming rules

The brady no low tackle rule

The care of in game footballs

The forced change to olineman eligible rules after their exploit last year.

The impending changes to how punsihments are meted out.

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What makes you think they will play by the rules? They will find another way to cheat, thats what they have always done. They will see how many things are not explained in detail in the CBA and they will find what else they can get away with. 

 

Is there a clause written in the CBA that states a team can be punished if they lock the opposing team inside the locker room making them forfeit the game? No? Ok lets try that one next. 

Listen I hear you, but even the Pats* arnt dumb enough to keep cheating. There are plenty of teams, owners, and NFL with an Axe to grind. I don't think they will be afforded the Royal treatment they once did. Toms 38 can't play forever, it time for some one to stand against them. Go Jets!

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You seen Brady throw a properly inflated football. The 2nd half of the AFC championship and the superbowl. 

 

I'm sure there's plenty other games...but we know guys don't wanna believe that. 

Ray Lucas said him and Vinny used to prep their game balls in the parking lot before the game.. I think the whole thing is stupid plus I think players should allowed to smoke pot when they want .. I also don't think what they do in their personal lives should be any business of the League..:)

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It's not over... The NFL is appealing the ruling. Honestly I think it's absolutely ridiculous. He gets off because he didn't know he'd be penalized... I mean are you kidding me? Brady will play week 1, but if the NFL wins the appeal he could miss games later in the season.

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you can't go back in time and have pash not edit the wells report, suspend aj feely and bargain for a penalty for deflating balls and send brady the letter

Right. But you still can claim the suspension was based more on the obstruction than the deflating, obviating the lack of a letter. Hope the league appeals soon.

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I know Goodell tried to fold everything into an all encompassing conduct detrimental charge but it was after the fact when he realized him and his advisors botched this entire case

But fortunately, obstruction was mentioned in the original punishment. And destruction of evidence became part of the case once the appeal to the league was filed. 

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Ray Lucas said him and Vinny used to prep their game balls in the parking lot before the game.. I think the whole thing is stupid plus I think players should allowed to smoke pot when they want .. I also don't think what they do in their personal lives should be any business of the League..:)

I agree with your post up to smacking girlfriends, and committing any crimes though.  PED use as well, but everything else I'm with you.

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I agree with your post up to smacking girlfriends, and committing any crimes though.  PED use as well, but everything else I'm with you.

I wasn't condoning any of that but to me that should be up to the police not the NFL.. Most of the players in the league are not altar boys was my point..

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Not just Brady, the NFLPA wins as well.  This judge just created a precedent that any player can choose to appeal based on this decision

The NFL has no choice now but to appeal. the good news is they can file for a stay of the judge's decision.

Like I said, it's going to be an interesting fall and winter...

What could a stay possibly do in this case? Allow the suspension to actually happen? Makes no sense.

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I wasn't condoning any of that but to me that should be up to the police not the NFL.. Most of the players in the league are not altar boys was my point..

i understand what you are saying, but you aren't gonna be head of a multi billion dollar, even just million dollar business and invest in someone with the understanding whatever they do in their private life you will just leave it up to the authorities. That's not smart business and ruin your business rep.

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i understand what you are saying, but you aren't gonna be head of a multi billion dollar, even just million dollar business and invest in someone with the understanding whatever they do in their private life you will just leave it up to the authorities. That's not smart business and ruin your business rep.

So your saying I still could be the POTUS though..:lol:

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As MM mentioned, there is no prohibition against being "generally aware."  That's what Brady was suspended on.  He wasn't suspended for tampering because even Wells didn't say Brady did it.

As to your second part, classic apples and oranges and depends on the fact.  Most jobs don't have a CBA.  Mine doesn't.  If I pissed on someone's sandwich, I could be fired.  But if there was a CBA and it wasn't prohibited such as saying that an employee may not damage another employee's property, then yeah, I could get off for doing that.

Again, this decision only exists in the world where there is a CBA in place.

Being generally aware makes you an accomplice. Fully involved even

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it should be noted at no time did judge berman dismiss the findings that the balls were deflated by the deflator after leaving the officials room early and ducking into a locked bathroom

all he is basicaslly saying is that the precedent is that is a team issue, not a player issue and they never mailed brady a letter saying it was considered equal to PED's and it carried a 4 game suspension

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Being generally aware makes you an accomplice. Fully involved even

But there's no rule against that in the CBA.  THAT is the problem.

The NFL is run by a bunch of dumbasses.  THAT is the problem.

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  • Key Points:

 

  • The court found that Brady had no notice that he could receive a four-game suspension for general awareness of ball deflation by others
  • Brady also had no notice that his discipline would be the equivalent of the discipline imposed upon a player who used PEDs

 

What this tells me is that if they had given him a lesser punishment, we wouldn't be here

"Do whatever you want to do if you don't know what the consequences are!"

Great message to put out there.  

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I find myself right now hoping a psychopath captures, tortures, and kills Brady in as gruesome way as possible ... Does that make me a bad person?

I don't think it makes you a bad person, I find myself having that feeling towards 2-3 different people every day, sometimes twice as many during weekends. Sometimes I have thoughts of being that psychopath myself. 

 

So yeah, you're ok in my book for what it's worth. 

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