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MLB Hot Stove - Offseason Thread (2015-2016 Edition)

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The Mariners and Rays have announced a three-for-three trade that sends infielder/outfielder Brad Miller, first baseman Logan Morrison, and reliever Danny Farquhar from Seattle to Tampa in exchange for righty Nate Karns, lefty C.J. Riefenhauser, and minor league outfielder Boog Powell.

Boog Powell isw still clanking around? That is pretty impressive.

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"Saves" meaningless stat. He's a great closer, but like with all closers he's a 1 inning guy who's  thrown 70 innings in a season once, last time 5 years ago.   Everyday players hold more value. I sure as heck wouldn't of traded Didi Gregorius and Brett Gardner for Craig Kimbell. And those two aren't exactly the best starters in baseball at their respected positions.

Closers are an absolute waste of talent.

Unless you don't have one.

25 years ago I would have made the argument that closers are an overrated animal. Can't make that argument anymore, and you canals start including "bridges to closers" as being very important also.

The Royals just proved how late innings are now the most important piece of close games. I don't begrudge any team paying what it feels is necessary to end games.

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1 guy does not make a bullpen. Having a good closer is meaningless if the bridge to that closer isn't good too. While in the broad sense a bullpen has become more valuable because starters throw less, and run production is down, but individually relief pitchers role has been shrunk to 1 batter, 1 inning, ect. They have become specialists. 7th inning guy, 8th inning guy, 9th inning guy (the closer, who gets paid a lot more than the 7th and 8th inning guy becuase they only got 21st or 24th outs of the game and not 27th out) Plus these pitchers do not pitch at high level for very long. That's what sperated Marinao Rivera from everyone else. Street, Papelbon, Soria, Soriano, Feliz all great, but only for a short period. You can make an argument based on 2015 Kimbrel decline has already begun.

 

You basically regurgitated what I said in a different manner.

Of course one guy does not make a bullpen DUH. But, you have to start somewhere, don't you? 

Bottom line, the Red Sox (who I have no want to pat on the back), got one of the best closers in the game. That will help them. Are they finished constructing their team? I don't know, and don't care.

But, a closer is a pretty important deal these days.

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so Mets are saying Ben Zobrist is apparently too rich for our blood? rut roh...

Did you expect them to say "There is not an amount that Ben Zobrist and his agent that can submit, that would be too high for us"?

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this isn't a negotiating ploy by us…we reached out and were spooked by his # and bailed, which I agree with JF80 above is fine with me as long as they spend the money at some point and don't hoard it.

I am not saying the Mets will or won't sign Zobrist, BUT Alderson initially balked at signing Cuddyer last winter, also.

 

Just because a GM throws things out for public consumption, does not make it so.

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I actually know a couple mlb players and Arod is universally disliked.  A lot is just haterade because of the contract - a lot of these players are also fans like us also succeptible to the manufactured outrage by the fans especially the Red Sox fans at ESPN.

 

 

Hi AEC

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Castro is 25. In 3 major league seasons he has hit .300 with .340 OBP. He led NL in hits one season. A lot of upside here.

 

When he cares and pays attention.

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Worth the gamble. Risk is higher than Didi, Eovaldi, Hicks trades because of the dollars involved, but this trade still falls inline with those kinda of high upside acquisitions Cashman has made last two off-seasons. He's done well with those.

 

Meanwhile how much $$ are the Mets now going to have to pay to beg Murphy to come back after they lost out on their 1st choice?

The Mets have their second baseman of the future on their roster in Dilson Herrera, so they do not need to panic. They have a lot of options.

Again, Castro has bouts of inattention and indifference.

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name starting to be thrown around the mets is Ian Desmond. Pure speculation though no evidence yet. 

If the Mets could get Desmond on the cheap for a 1 year in order to prove his worth again, I would be fine.

At one time, I wanted Castro, too. If he can have a long career, he is a 3,000 hit candidate. But, if you thought Murphy had bouts of boneheaded play that defies description, Castro takes the cake. Maybe a change of scenario does him good.

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