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I really can't believe that LA nickel and dimed him. That roster is still built to win now, just pointless with the way they spend.

They are said to have signed Iwakuma and are rumored to be discussing Chapman with the Reds. I'd call that a pretty nice start to the off season if both turn out to be true....plus they got rid of Mattingly.

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Giants will turn him around. Doesn't hurt he's in NL West with those giant ballparks. If he was a free agent a year ago he would of gotten at least $50 million more.

It just...

I can't get over it.  He's 31.   He has peaked athletically.  He lead the league in hits allowed. 

And...  he is getting 90 million.  It's not even a terrible deal, but it's 90 million.

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Dodgers get Chapman and Kuma. Wow, real quality moves there. 

What did they give up for Chapman?  Good prospects?  Meh prospects?

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he Miley trade is in place. It’s Miley and reliever Jonathan Aro to Seattle for second-year reliever Carson Smith and 27-year-old starter Roenis Elias. My initial reaction is that the Red Sox did awfully well here, but I suppose Miley could still be quite a bit better than he was this season.

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What did they give up for Chapman?  Good prospects?  Meh prospects?

latest update : The trade is not yet finished, according to MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon (linksto Twitter). Not only that, but Sheldon hears that there are other clubs involved who could swoop in and acquire Chapman at the last minute.

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Sox trade Wade Miley to Mariners. That's addition by subtraction regardless of what they get back. He's awful. 

https://twitter.com/ScottLauber/status/673956040375955457

Red Sox fleeced the Ms on this. Miley is a solid lefty, but Carson Smith is money and under team control for five years. Great return and move by Dombroski.

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Jose Fernandez being linked to the Yankees. Deal still unlikely. Source told Olney about 40% chance and rising though. (Of him being dealt in general, d backs and Dodgers listed as suitors too) What would you give up? I'd give up Judge, Sanchez, Matteo.... I really don't want to give up Severino or Bird. I don't think the package I came up with gets the job done though. Fun to think about though. Fernandez, Tanaka, Severino, Pineda and Eovaldi. Wowza. 

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can't get Fernandez without giving up Severino.

As good as he is, I wouldn't empty our farm for him.

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A source tells ESPN.com’s Buster Olney that the odds of a Fernandez deal appear to have dramatically increased over the course of the day. (Twitter link.) What seemed like a negligible possibility at the outset of the Winter Meetings could now be nearing even odds, per Olney’s source.

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can't get Fernandez without giving up Severino.

As good as he is, I wouldn't empty our farm for him.

Haven't heard anything about it but what about a 3 way trade? Yankees send Miller to Houston for pitching prospects, flip those prospects with Judge, Sanchez, etc. to Miami ? Huge stretch, just fun to think about at this point. 

 

 

  • The Astros “have remained interested” in Yankees closer Andrew Miller, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports on Twitter. It remains far from clear, of course, whether any team will be willing to offer enough to get New York to part with the outstanding lefty, though Houston certainly has the young starting pitching coveted by the Yanks.

 

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^Too complicated to consider. I guess anything is possible though.

 

Anways.. Looks like the Reds-Dodgers trade with Aroldis Chapman is off or at least held up after an alleged domestic incident at Chapman's home.

Maybe this leads to the Dodgers turning their attention to another sought after closer who could be available via trade. José Peraza and Jose De Leon would be nice. Corey Seager and Julio Urias are likely untouchable. Frankly I don't have a good feel for what we could actually obtain for Miller. Feel like players have cost a lot via free agency and trade.

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10:16pm: The Diamondbacks are “out” of any effort to pry Fernandez from Miami, tweetsJon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Miami was seeking two of Arizona’s “best” players as well as “top prospects,” per the report.

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I like Castro if he can revert back to pre 2015 form. He's still young, I see some untapped potential there. Don't wanna get ahead of myself, since we have no idea what we would be giving up, but I'm a fan of moves like this. Similar type trade like Didi, Eovaldi..

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Wouldn't mind Castro at all, depending on what we give up of course. Feels like he's been around forever yet he's only 25. Sounds like Gardner isn't apart of the deal. 

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6:08pm: Brett Gardner is not part of the current Starlin Castro talks with the Cubs. The Cubbies don’t want Jacoby Ellsbury either. Chicago is said to be working on all sorts of stuff — they’re after Ben Zobrist, discussing Javier Baez with the Braves and Rays, etc. — so this is part of some master plan for them. [Joel Sherman]

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6:14pm: Talks with the Cubs about Starlin Castro are in the early stages. The Yankees tend to keep things very close to the vest, annoyingly so at times, so chances are this is coming from the Cubs’ side. [Jon Heyman]

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3pm: Zobrist is choosing between the Cubs and Mets, according to Rosenthal (Twitter link). The two have made comparable offers, says Rosenthal, so the decision comes down to which club he’d rather join. The Nationals are now on the periphery of talks, Rosenthal adds.

 

 

Somethings about to go down it seems 

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Theo says the Cubs are getting closer to a deal. They are trying to sync up a trade and FA. That sounds like Zobrist/Castro move, IMO

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Zobrist to Cubs, 4 year/ $56 million isn't a terrible deal in this market. Would prefer to go 3 years, but the $$ isn't awful. Wonder what the Mets offered. Early reports of $80 million would of scared me off initially.

 

Anyways so Castro trade next shoe to drop?

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Have to think the $38 million Castro is still owed would dictate the return Cubs get for him.

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Castro is better than Zobrist, younger, and cheaper. Not sure what the Cubs are thinking. And where does Castro play for the Yanks?

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Castro is better than Zobrist, younger, and cheaper. Not sure what the Cubs are thinking. And where does Castro play for the Yanks?

everyday 2B, backup SS

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Ben Zobrist‘s free agency has reached its conclusion, as Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports that the infielder will sign with the Cubs (Twitter link). The contract will reunite Zobrist with former Rays manager Joe Maddon, who is now the skipper of the Cubs. Zobrist is represented by Octagon. All indications earlier this afternoon were that Zobrist would receive a four-year contract, and Rosenthal tweets that the exact guarantee on that four-year deal will be $56MM.

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Castro is better than Zobrist, younger, and cheaper. Not sure what the Cubs are thinking. And where does Castro play for the Yanks?

I'd have to imagine 2nd base? I'm nervous as to what we're giving up. I like Castro and his upside but at a low cost. He's been pretty bad 2 of the past 3 years. 

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Castro is owed more than 30 million over the remainder of his contract, if we take the whole contract hopefully we give up a lesser prospect. Still no word on what the Yanks might be giving up??

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The Yankees and Cubs have agreed to a trade that will send Starlin Castro to New York, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. ESPN’s Buster Olney tweeted seconds prior to Sherman’s report that the two sides were closing in on a deal. Sherman adds that the trade is pending medical reviews.

 

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