Armyjet Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 When the Jets were competitive within the last 15 years there was always one staple that helped lead to points. The punt return / kick return game. Now I know the kick return game has largely been marginalized by the NFL rules but thinking back to the days of leon washington, justin miller, brad smith, santana moss returning kicks and giving us either great field position or ST's TD's is something that really hurts this teams ability to get cheap points and turn the tides of a game. With an average offense it is pretty important to have a solid if not great ST unit and since Mike Westhoff left it has been awful. The problem is I cant think of one person on the roster who is capable of being a good PR/KR. Is there one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 In yesterday's game, we didn't force an Oakland punt until midway through the 4th quarter. Hard to say a punt returner would have made a jot of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armyjet Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 In yesterday's game, we didn't force an Oakland punt until midway through the 4th quarter. Hard to say a punt returner would have made a jot of difference. not having Zac Stacy stumbling out to the 15 yard line every time he returns the ball would've though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I agree with Army other teams when punting are constantly out kicking reasonable coverage launching 60 yarders and we get dick all out of it. As mentioned Stacey at KR? Our team speed is really bad if he is the best bet back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 not having Zac Stacy stumbling out to the 15 yard line every time he returns the ball would've though Agreed - most of the time I just wanted him to take the touchback, at least that guarantees (a) 20 yards and (b) no risk of a turnover However, given that Oakland's first three drives went 70+ yards and ended in TD's, I don't really see that field position was that much of a factor. Terrible defense was what lost the game yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 as you mentioned KRs have been affected by the rules. Kerley is averaging 8.6, in our last few playoff years: 2004: 7.6 2006: 8.4 2009: 9.1 2010: 9.4 we haven't had a big time PR game since Santana Moss(before he became a key contributor as a WR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armyjet Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Agreed - most of the time I just wanted him to take the touchback, at least that guarantees (a) 20 yards and (b) no risk of a turnover However, given that Oakland's first three drives went 70+ yards and ended in TD's, I don't really see that field position was that much of a factor. Terrible defense was what lost the game yesterday. I totally agree, our defense was porous yesterday and even a stellar ST's day might not win the game. But literally having zero faith and excitement when the team is receiving a kick or punt return is pretty bad. If our offense had a short field once in a while it would make this team a whole lot more dangerous. The way I see it were going into most games conceding 1/3 of the phases of football. ST's matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 meaningless. QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armyjet Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 meaningless. my post. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 meaningless. QB. You can't expect your QB to be putting up 35 points a game. Think the Giants feel great about what Manning did yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You can't expect your QB to be putting up 35 points a game. Think the Giants feel great about what Manning did yesterday? Our defense isn't giving up 35 points a game. If Eli Manning is on the Jets right now, they have 2 more wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You can't expect your QB to be putting up 35 points a game. Think the Giants feel great about what Manning did yesterday? The should feel great about Manning, but the defense should be seriously in the doghouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I totally agree, our defense was porous yesterday and even a stellar ST's day might not win the game. But literally having zero faith and excitement when the team is receiving a kick or punt return is pretty bad. If our offense had a short field once in a while it would make this team a whole lot more dangerous. The way I see it were going into most games conceding 1/3 of the phases of football. ST's matter. As long as they dont fumble the ball, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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